Obama is sooo full of shit -.-

Discussion in 'Politics' started by DkN_Haze, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. Ron Paul is a fuckin nut. If you want to be a Libertarian move your ass to an Island.
     
  2. #102 Dessalines, Jun 23, 2009
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    How Trillion-Dollar Deficits Were Created

    How Trillion-Dollar Deficits Were Created - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com

    Right wingers fuck up this country and refuse to take responsibility. They pimp the ignorant for votes, run up the debt, enrich their friends through bogus defense contracts and blame the pile of shit they leave on the floor on everybody else.
     
  3. By the way what the fuck does socialism have to do with Democracy? One is economic the other political. FOX News is not news its propoganda.

    You can think of that roughly $2 trillion swing as coming from four broad categories: the business cycle, President George W. Bush's policies, policies from the Bush years that are scheduled to expire but that Mr. Obama has chosen to extend, and new policies proposed by Mr. Obama.
    The first category - the business cycle - accounts for 37 percent of the $2 trillion swing. It's a reflection of the fact that both the 2001 recession and the current one reduced tax revenue, required more spending on safety-net programs and changed economists' assumptions about how much in taxes the government would collect in future years.
    About 33 percent of the swing stems from new legislation signed by Mr. Bush. That legislation, like his tax cuts and the Medicare prescription drug benefit, not only continue to cost the government but have also increased interest payments on the national debt.
    Mr. Obama's main contribution to the deficit is his extension of several Bush policies, like the Iraq war and tax cuts for households making less than $250,000. Such policies - together with the Wall Street bailout, which was signed by Mr. Bush and supported by Mr. Obama - account for 20 percent of the swing.
    About 7 percent comes from the stimulus bill that Mr. Obama signed in February. And only 3 percent comes from Mr. Obama's agenda on health care, education, energy and other areas.
     
  4. It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.'

    But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.
     
  5. I would strongly suggest you save your passion for things you can affect in your life, wasting it in the politics forum will only result in further frustration. GrassCity is much bigger than this forum, venture out and take a look around, trust me, you'll clear your head considerably.

    Stay green.
     
  6. You need a serious head check man.:D
     
  7. I take that back. He is not an idiot. Some of his ideas are great. Its just that no country on earth has ever developed in the context of Libertarian economics, period. A point he concedes by saying well it has never been tried yet. No thanks.
     
  8. LOL. You know what? You are 100% correct. I guess I needed reminding. Thanks. :)
     
  9. I didnt have time to vote but i would of voted for Obama all the way.

    if mccain was president we would have retarded,incoherent sara palin.

    Yall would want that bitch as your VP ? she doesnt know jack shit. I would of been furious as hell if she was VP. Im sure you seen her donkeyshit interviews during the election on Youtube?

    i think Obama might do some shit thats good for us Herb users at the end of his term. To him he has to focus on bigger shit first.

    mccain and palin would have brought us all to hell if they were president.
     
  10. Yea cause that's all that matters huh? Legalizing herb huh? Not the fact that he's nationalizing our banks and auto industry or socializing our medicine. Not the fact that he is ruining whats left of our economy. Not the fact that the dollar could collapse. Fuck it all, he "might, but probably wont" legalize Marijuana.
     
  11. #111 letsgetPOD, Jun 23, 2009
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    Yeah Libertarian policies are what the nation was founded on, get out of the left right paradime, no candidate working in the two party system is going to save the economy or change the country in a positive matter, because it just isn't in the cards for them, they play the hand they are delt by the bankers, and that is to screw the people as much as they can through gradual socialism and sovietization, it has been ramped up in the last decade especially, but it has been building up for quite some time.
     


  12. America didn't have a coercive tax system until the Civil War, and then until 1913.

    America has struggled with 3 central banks, but until 1913 our economy was never centrally planned by authoritative bureaucrats.

    America didn't adopt prohibitive legislative acts or legal paternalism... until 1919.

    America didn't invade foreign countries for resources and economic control (the South doesn't count) until the 1950s.

    I'd say America developed in the context of libertarian economics. Our founders were mostly classic liberals and the Constitution exemplifies their libertarian emphasis on preserving negative rights only.
     
  13. i don't even care if i get banned, you're a dumb bitch. I'm tired of stupid people like you who think that everyone hates obama because he's 1/2 black. You're the scum of the earth. People hate obama for his backwards policies. We don't hate his culture, we hate that he lied about his culture. We call him a terrorist because he allies himself with william ayers, and mr. wright. YOU should leave the US because you're to ignorant to understand you're own hypocracy. Maybe you should accept other peoples beliefs instead of calling them redneck racists just because they don't trust a man who the country knows nothing about. You dirty socialists are all about accepting other points of view, until you realize that THERE ARE OTHER POINT OF VIEWS!

    Obama's socialist plans may seem good to you, but the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of everyone elses money.
     
  14. This thread is fail. Obama is not the greatest president, but he's not a terrorist. Cheney is a terrorist.
     

  15. Your post fails. The OP didn't call him a terrorist, he simply said hes full of shit. What makes you say Cheney was a terrorist? Name one terrorist act he committed.
     
  16. Have you heard Cheney speak recently about torture? He is actually defending torture because he knows that he is the one who ordered it. He is trying to justify what went on at Guantanamo Bay.

    If that's not good enough for you, take a look at the Iraqi Fatality estimates. Also look at the violence levels before we invaded and after we invaded. Under the Bush administration, the US struck fear into the innocent civilians living in Iraq at the time. Our presence led to that massive loss of life. Therefore, Cheney is a terrorist.

    Thanks for the negative rep.
     
  17. So what, Obama is condoning torture as well, nothing has been done to change the laws on the books, you know why because democrats were involved as well, omg, advent conspiracy!
     
  18. Your welcome!:wave:

    In reply to your presnt post, letsgetPOD says it well.


     
  19. Obama is not condoning torture. He's been quoted saying this several times. There was no law on the books with regards to torture. The order to torture came from the top via memos. Democrats knew about the torture, but Obama wasn't one of them.

    There isn't any point arguing with you though, so I'm unsubscribing now. Please do some research before spewing bs about our current president and defending the past administration. :wave:
     
  20. The point is Obama isn't doing anything about the people who ordered it, clear enough for you?
     

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