does marijuana weaken your immune system?

DrTummnus · Jul 26, 2012

silver rizla said:

not sure if anyone's said this one about the 'flat earth' thing, but it's kind of funny that it's a popular misconception that people once thought the earth was flat..no society (or one that's had an impact on the world) has ever thought the earth was flat, those that did in ye olde times were laughed at like they were insane, probably just as they would today if they made such claims...thanks q.i. (bloody good show for ignorance that might have mmj info on it one day)
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LOL what did that really have to do with the immune system

sgtsmoke · Nov 8, 2012

Kudos, Imaven for using sources and making a valid argument bro. I agree I think it helps your immune system when you smoke it the natural way( grind up a nug throw it in a bowl or roll it up in paper). Rhytm of Life was clearly biased in his opinions because his brother has/had cancer and is a "graduate" who says weed is bad. I'm going to make another thread about the immune system and cannabis connection because this one is a little old and I want people to chime in.

PrinceOfTheCity · Nov 17, 2012

I doubt it. Been using it for a year everyday, 1-2 times a day. Have not gotten sick this whole year (knock on wood), not even sore throat sniffles anything. Completely nothing all year. (knocks on wood again). Then again I haven't been sick in 7 years so, maybe something else I'm doing right.

Mattyice1312020 · Dec 20, 2016

Ryan7926 said:

well i was thinking about how before i smoked weed it seemed like i got sick a lot less. i tested smoking while sick and while it makes you better it takes longer to go away, but does it actually weaken my immune system... any thoughts?
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Mattyice1312020 · Dec 20, 2016

Ryan7926 said:

well i was thinking about how before i smoked weed it seemed like i got sick a lot less. i tested smoking while sick and while it makes you better it takes longer to go away, but does it actually weaken my immune system... any thoughts?
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iMaven said:

No, you're wrong.
Big deal, you can give sources.
So can I.

"2.0 THE TOXICOLOGY OF THC
It is our position that THC is one of the least toxic chemicals that humans ingest. At
normal doses, there is no evidence of genetic damage due to THC exposure or effects
on fertility, pregnancy, or offspring. Similarly, there is no evidence of damage to the
hormonal or immune systems. These statements apply to humans who ingest large
quantities of marijuana daily, and much more so to humans who ingest trace
amounts of THC through hemp foods. Ingestion through hemp bodycare products
is completely undocumented and highly unlikely.
Research that finds damaging effects of THC generally falls into one of two
categories: 1) studies that are not replicated by later research using more appropriate
experimental designs; and 2) studies that use massive quantities of THC, far beyond
the doses employed by heavy marijuana users."

"2.4 Immune System
"Cell experiments and animal studies demonstrate that THC has
suppressive effects on the humoral and cell-mediated immunity.
However, the majority of those can be attributed to toxic unspecific
effects. Many analysed parameters required extremely high doses to
exhibit any significant effect and the effects were dose-dependent with
the threshold concentration being precisely determinable. When
applying lower doses, one often observed differentially
immunostimulating effects or no effects at all. For many immune
parameters the NOEL is ... irrelevant to the human consumption
situation. In studies of man or of cells of marijuana users the effects
observed were often contradictory. If such effects were found at all,
they were weak even in case of heavy cannabis use and of questionable
relevance to health. The World Health Organisation summarised in
its most recent cannabis report: 'Many of their effects appear to be
relatively small, totally reversible after removal of the cannabinoids,
and produced only at concentrations or doses higher than those
required for psychoactivity (WHO, 1997, p. 27)'" (Grotenhermen et al,
1998, p. 53)."

"2.4.1 Suppression versus enhancement
THC and the immune system is the most thoroughly researched topic in the area of
subliminal biological effects. Much of the early research, which demonstrated
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immune-system suppression, has been discredited. For example, Nahas et al. (1974)
found that THC decreases the number of T-lymphocytes – which control cellmediated,
acquired immunity. Later studies found no such decrease. Dax et al.
(1989), for example, found no change in T- or B-lymphocytes (humoural immunity)
or in T-cell subtypes before, during, or subsequent to administration of THC to
chronic users. Wallace et al. (1988) reported similar findings, with a twist: an
increase in helper T-cells (CD4). These findings should be interpreted as
immunoenhancement, because helper T-cells stimulate the proliferation and
activation of other immune cells.
In a study cited in the Health Canada risk assessment, Nahas et al. (1977) found in
vitro suppression of T-cell proliferation in response to mitogens, which stimulate
cell division. Other researchers criticized Nahas's method – applying THC in
massive doses to human cells in a petri dish – and called the results "meaningless."
Better studies failed to replicate Nahas's work and, instead, found immune system
stimulation at lower doses (Pross et al., 1993; Luo et al., 1992).
Let us be clear about these findings: What the research shows is immune system
suppression at very high doses, but immune system stimulation (enhancement) at
low doses. These effects have been demonstrated for both the T- and B-lymphocytes.
This means that the trace amounts of THC in hemp foods probably strengthen the
immune system of humans. High doses have nonspecific toxic effects, likely the
cause of any damage, whereas low doses act through specific receptor-based effects.
It's a basic principle of pharmacology: low doses may be curative whereas high doses
are poisonous.
One last point: With an oral dose of THC of 0.1-0.2 mg/kg (the psychotropic
threshold), the blood plasma reaches a maximum concentration of 3-5 ng/ml. In
the cell studies, the concentration is 10 ug/ml, or 10,000 ng/ml – 2000 to 3000 times
the dose that produces the marijuana "high.""

Quick break: Man, don't you love research?

"Immune-system stimulation by THC at low doses should be apparent in macrolevel
health benefits. The stunning (but rarely reported) success of THC treatments
of cancer may be representative. One of the first studies had rats ingest a large dose
(50 mg/kg) of THC daily for two years. At the completion of the experiment, 70
percent of the dosed animals were still alive, but only 45 percent of the control
(undosed) animals survived. This sizeable difference was due almost entirely to a
reduced incidence of cancer in the animals given THC (Chan et al., 1996)."

HMMMMMM.
What is the most important thing in preventing cancer? A strong immune system. The ones who had THC had a less percentage of cancer incidents... Stronger immune system anyone?
Or it could just be its anti-cancerous properties, though.

Eh:
"One out of four Americans will die from cancer.
Researchers believe cancers erupt when immune system response is
weakened" (Thorpe, 1999, p. 32).".

Maybe its both??? Who knows.

Oh and uhh.. Do you know what hemp oil is? Its made from marijuana and :

"A second major benefit of hemp oil is a strengthening of the immune system. It
inhibits tumour growth, kills bacteria (including staph), and heals wounds
(Erasmus, 1993)."

Could give full sources of the ones i put in ()'s if someone desires??

And, so, i've basically come to the conclusion that the research in which your research is founded on, Rhythm of Life, used doses much larger than what actual users consume...
Your claim that it weakens your immune system. Well it may... at very large doses that we do not reach.

Well, water is bad for your body.. at doses that we do not reach.
But would you still claim that water is bad for your body?
No.
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Your an idiot if you think that's true. Also find a study that has scientific backing. Yes it hurts your immune system if you smoke everyday. One of THC'S primary functions is immune suppression when you get a script for it.

Mattyice1312020 · Dec 20, 2016

Mattyice1312020 said:

Your an idiot if you think that's true. Also find a study that has scientific backing. Yes it hurts your immune system if you smoke everyday. One of THC'S primary functions is immune suppression when you get a script for it.
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Also find a study that was done this century

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