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sweaty insomnia after quitting cannabis..

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by Non, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. I'm not sure and forgive me if i'm wrong, but Non that sounds like a pretty serious condition(at least in my mind.)
    I hate when i have that type of sleep you were describing, and i did have it a few years back. The only thing that helped me was making life changing decisions to change my life for the better. That sounds like the type of sleep when you have a lot to worry about.
     
  2. If I were having night sweats I'd see a doctor. It can point to some pretty serious conditions and probably has nothing to do with not smoking cannabis.
     
  3. I'm not even going to quote whoever said Cannabis is slightly addicting, because in that sense, so is a nightlight.
     
  4. I was going to make a joke about how "sweaty insomnia" sounds like the name of a porno, but this sounds like a serious thread.

    I have definitely experienced this very very mild addiction but as long as you don't develop a constant smoke schedule at the same time every night then you should be able to avoid this "lifestyle addiction."
     
  5. I used to get night sweats. It went on for years. Then finally they found that I had an ongoing infection that my body had been fighting but couldn't totally get rid of at any point.

    Since MJ is an anti inflamatory, when you go off of it you lose this benefit. See a doctor.

    First website on the google search:

    However, if your bedroom is unusually hot or you are using too many bedclothes, you may begin to sweat during sleep - and this is normal. In order to distinguish night sweats that arise from medical causes from those that occur because one's surroundings are too warm, doctors generally refer to true night sweats as severe hot flashes occurring at night that can drench sleepwear and sheets, which are not related to an overheated environment.
    In one study of 2267 patients visiting a primary care physician, 41% reported experiencing night sweats during the previous month, so the perception of excessive sweating at night is fairly common. It is important to note that flushing (a warmth and redness of the face or trunk) may also be hard to distinguish from true night sweats.

    What are the causes of night sweats?


    There are many different causes of night sweats. To determine what is causing night sweats in a particular patient, a doctor must obtain a detailed medical history and order tests to decide if an underlying medical condition is responsible for the night sweats.
    The following are some of the known conditions that can cause night sweats.

    Menopause


    The hot flashes that accompany the menopausal transition can occur at night and cause sweating. This is a very common cause of night sweats in perimenopausal women.

    Idiopathic hyperhidrosis


    Idiopathic hyperhidrosis is a condition in which the body chronically produces too much sweat without any identifiable medical cause.

    Infections


    Classically, tuberculosis is the infection most commonly associated with night sweats. However, bacterial infections, such as the following conditions can also be associated with night sweats:
    Cancer


    Night sweats are an early symptom of some cancers. The most common type of cancer associated with night sweats is lymphoma. However, people who have an undiagnosed cancer frequently have other symptoms as well, such as unexplained weight loss and fever.
     
  6. well as with all medications, and MMJ is a medication, it messes with ur hormones and other chemistry.....

    It suppresses some things and increases the production of others,

    Anyone who denies this is blind, or just a little zealous and thinks i'm talking bad about his/her MJ -- but i'm not...

    So with that in mind, it might not be it might be, but give it a month....

    if you have no luck with sleeping well, i can only say that i only just started using MMJ again after 13 years and really i only vaporise my leaf so far..... and that has taken away the reliance for Zoloft, Xanax, Ibuprofen and a couple of other medications....... so i'm glad to relie on one med instead of many........ anytime you stop taking a med you will find some sort of side effect as your body kicks back into either a)balance or b)unbalance - whatever your physical condition may be...


    cheers
     
  7. It happens to many chronic marijuana users aroudn the world. I have been smoking daily for the past 4 years. If I have a dry spell (around 2 days without herb) I get the exact same symptons, random sweat outbreaks for a couple minutes, hard time sleeping, and even a quick vomit from nausea. It goes away after like 4 or 5 days not smoking.
     
  8. I've been smoking every night at around the same time for the past 1 and a half years, I haven't smoked in 5 days and have not felt a thing abnormal.
     
  9. I would have to disagree with that. Not that there arent lots of sources saying otherwise, but I also have mild physical withdrawal symptoms. I have a hard time sleeping, I find it hard to eat a full meal, kinda tired throughout the day, and im usually pretty edgy if someone says the wrong thing to me.. But they are definitely not as bad as the rare occassion where I run out of my klonopin before my script can be refilled and I am stuck withdrawling from benzos. Without those I feel like dying and extremely depressed and I cant get a wink of sleep. So yeah, in my opinion pot is minorly physically addicting, but nothing that the average person cant handle. Just my opinion once again.
     

  10. so as with all things....... i know this sounds wierd cause we are self medicating.... but Moderation is the majic word:smoking:
     
  11. #31 boxybrown, Jan 24, 2009
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    No. Those aren't symptoms of withdrawal from an addictive substance. You can't be addicted to marijuana (and therefore, you cannot suffer from withdrawal when you discontinue its use). It can't happen, unless you're genetically predisposed to addictions in general. People who say things like, "Mental addiction can manifest itself physically." are the people who probably know the truth but are too nice to tell other people that they're wrong. The problem with these people is that despite the fact that they're being very polite, they're spreading misleading information.

    What you're experiencing here with the "mild physical withdrawal symptoms" are merely symptoms of conditioning, not addiction or withdrawal. If you do something on a regular basis, then stop doing it all of a sudden, you're going to notice differences, and most of the time, those differences will manifest themselves as the opposite of what you're used to. Look at the very symptoms you described. You have trouble sleeping; most people who smoke weed do so before bed pretty regularly, and since weed helps you fall asleep, you're not going to be able to sleep as easily after you stop, since you're depriving yourself of a sleep aid. That's conditioning. You find it hard to eat a full meal; well that's because you're used to stuffing your face full of food when you smoke up, and when you don't have weed, you can't eat as much since you're used to the appetite stimulant. Again, that's conditioning. You get edgy and snappy; that's because you're used to being in a euphoric state at regular intervals. When you're not getting that euphoria, things will piss you off much easier. Conditioning. This is what people mean when they say that marijuana is habit-forming. You become used to the altered state of mind and behavior. Depriving yourself of marijuana after you've become used to it is going to hurt, as depriving yourself of ANYTHING you're used to will (homesickness etc.). This does NOT mean that marijuana can cause physical addiction. In fact, it means the exact opposite.

    I will say it again; unless you are predisposed to addictions (IE: you have an 'addictive personality'), you cannot get addicted to marijuana. It simply cannot happen.
     
  12. technically aropax and prozac aren't addictive, but you try stopping them suddenly or ask someone who has......

    medication is medication, it's not an addictive substance in the sense of oxycontin, nicotine, heroin, caffeine, but there is still the hormone re adjustment period....

    that's what i reckon;)

    so it's not all in ur mind.... some of it's in ur endcrine system too:p
     

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  13. i don't care about copy and pastes from medical websites. I'm going to answer this guy's question from my own personal experience. I am a heavy user of marijuana and there have been times when I quit for an extended period (usually 9 months to a year) before I can't stay away and end up going back to smoking.

    Every time I quite I experience certain symptoms that I get as a direct result of me cutting out my smoking.

    Sleep becomes difficult. I woke up maybe once or twice in the middle of the night sweating. Usually it is just difficult to fall asleep and I always have VIVID NIGHTMARES. The dreams are almost real.

    I also have issues with appetite and mood when I quit. I find it difficult to eat food (I get serious munchies when I eat) after I quit and I also notice that I can become very moody at first.

    All of these things go away over time. For me, it always takes weeks to finally start feeling "good" and back to normal.

    GL
     
  14. very good post.
     
  15. The only form of withdrawals I have ever had is difficulty sleeping, but the only reason that happened was because for almost 2 years straight I smoked every single night before bed, so I wasn't used to going to sleep sober. You might want to look into the sweats man, maybe cannabis controlled something that was in you all along and your body is beginning to struggle without it. But then again, cannabis affects everyone differently.
     
  16. I did answer from my own personal experience as well. If the sweats go away after a few weeks then its obvious It must have been related to your MJ use. Habits are hard to break.

    If however, the sweats continue on and off for a long period of time then you should see a doctor. GL to you.
     
  17. Just because marijuana isn't phsyically addictive, doesn't mean your body doesn't have to adjust when you quit. If I stop after smoking for some time, I often feel a bit feverish after a few days, irritable, have insomnia, and often have night sweats, which is the body's way of getting rid of the toxins etc.. You've probably also been having quite vivid dreams yeah?
     

  18. Technically, anything can be addictive.. But, it's more of a habit than anything else. Your body is use to doing it over and over, and got into a routine, then the routine is broken.. Whether it is addictive or not, if you do something for 20 years, and then suddenly stop, most anything will cause some problems.
     
  19. well it's actually gotten better. I've been doing bedtime routines to help like drinking tea and meditating or listening to brainwave entrainment noise.
     
  20. ya know, they say its not addicting to smoke. its not. its the habit as said before. just to give personal experience, i smoked EVERYDAY(without fail) for over a year then i had to quit cause i got in trouble. well everyone said i was cranky, i sweat my ass off for about a week straight when i slept, and i couldnt hardly sleep. also i found that my asthma was being suppressed and ended up struggling to regain control over it. i now smoke again and every time i go even a day or two, i struggle with sleep and night sweats.

    just my story :smoking:
     

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