Brain death or consciousness after death?

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  1. #1 IfImoffpleasecorrect, Jan 11, 2016
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    What do You think happens to awareness when you're declared legally dead?

     
  2. I'd like to think there's more in some way or another, but I imagine you'd just be dead, gone. You wouldn't be aware of anything because you don't exist anymore. That'd be a bummer, but I guess it wouldn't really matter once you're dead.
     
  3. I can tell you what it was like for me in a coma. It was a very weird, enlightening, and very important event in my life. It was like a dream but more real (if that makes sense). So the last thing I remember is riding in the car never getting hit or anything. In my memories I went from riding in the car to waking up in the hospital 3 weeks later.



    There was no sense of time in this 'void' It was all like one big dream but the most intense dream I've ever had. At first everything was black. I was consciously aware of unconsciousness. I know it sounds odd but thats the best I can explain it. Then this triangle with a circle inside it (symbol for omniscience as I later found out from my therapist) started very faintly and glowed brighter until it got to maximum intensity and exploded into consciousness. I was inside a pod with a window in which various things were being showed to me through the window. A green leaf, a cigarette, a pencil. Then next thing I know, I'm waking up (in my coma not actually awake) and I'm surrounded by people I myself didn't know but the person whose eyes I was looking through, whose life I was living knew them and they were family. I was in a hospital bed and I was very old. I could feel the energy of the emotions of the people around me: deep sadness. I was scared shitless of death but I knew I was minutes from it. I could feel the life fading from me, I felt fingers on my wrist, waiting for my pulse to inevitably slow to a halt. I watched the world dissolve and I exploded into a million pieces, still in the room but now I could feel the emotions of my family amplified hundredfold. I had just experienced death. I sat in this state of dissolution, feeling like my soul was multiplying from 1 million shards to 2 million. And then everything went white. Complete white. I was so fucking scared at this point. I was dead and in a white void. I panicked and panicked some more. Eventually a single black letter appeared that brought a wave of intense calm and understanding. The letter was "I”. I was the universe. I was everything at this point.



    It was at this point where I faced and fully came to terms with the scariest thing I've ever experienced to this day: Infinity. It started off with the same green leaf I saw in the pod. That multiplied into a 4x4 grid which multiplied into 8x8 and so on and so on and so on. Never stopping until I was floating in an infinite grid realizing that this would never stop. It continued multiplying until I fully grasped what infinity meant. To this day, the concept of infinity is truly scary to think about. It was just downright terrifying. We can talk about infinity all day but nothing will come close to coming face to face with raw infinity. After this lesson was learned, I was again in the black void of conscious unconsciousness watching the triangle fade into existence only this time I was not prepared for the intensity. This time I was being born. As soon as that triangle reached maximum intensity, consciousness, touch, smell, sight, hearing all exploded into existence and I was being pushed out of the womb. Only my sense of sight was all fluorescent colors. Whatever race I'd been born into was not human yet everything seemed so familiar. I was handed to my mother and father. I was crying so hard because it was all too much to handle. I was overstimulated but yet I could still remember unconsciousness but it was fading fast. This was my new life. Again blackness and the triangle as I was born again as a human and then again as a plant. Being a plant was very interesting because I could see energy as colors and whisps of smoke but I had no sight. It was a very very odd feeling. This kept happening. Being born, dying, living lives where I would be seeing moments of my life where I was killing myself. Flashbacks on my deathbed but actual experiences if you will. For example, I was observing a younger version of myself (only it wasn't my physical body as I know today but someone else, however still ME I really don't know how to explain it) smoking cigarettes in my basement in the 1980's working on an IBM computer. This was how I died in that life. Lung cancer. Another life, heroin overdose. Heart attack. I experienced every single one of these deaths. Each one was different but the same in the end. It went ON AND ON AND ON like this. Living, dying, and watching important moments in my souls journey.



    Fast forward to me waking up, I opened my eyes and looked up at the ceiling relief flooding through me as I experienced actual consciousness. It was very much like waking up from a nightmare. That same sort of feeling. The first thing out of my mouth was "Did I take acid?” or "How much acid did I take?” something along those lines. This was more intense than the most intense LSD or shroom trip I've ever had. I still cannot explain it and have been scouring the internet for people with similar stories. This experience has changed my life and perception of life, death, and the universe forever.



    Cheers,



    Vesna
     
  4. You wake up in a pod parked in your garage. You are 13years old. The year is 4200 and your robotic caretaker just pulled the plug on your simulator because it's time for dinner and you're all like "Conchita5000?!, WTF"

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  5. Are you saying that you feel like you experienced life and death from your past lives while in your Coma? Interesting story..... If true,
     
  6. We should point out early that Coma =/= legally dead. There is any number of neural activity variations between Coma and full blown dead. Namely "some" VS "none". A person can surf the rings of Saturn with Zeus while in a Coma, but everything we know so far suggests that as dead, we aren't doing jack. IF we are, none of us here on Earth have a clue about it, nor has anyone credibly returned with verifiable info of what goes on.

    Until I hear otherwise, I'm sitting at zero, zip, blank. Not even darkness since one has to be alive to perceive darkness. As it stands right now, we should feel about legally dead the same way we feel about all the time that happened before we were born.

     
  7. Well the awareness around you will grow.. the awareness of everyone else that you're dead.
     
  8. Interesting story Vesna!

    Recently, a day or two ago, I was wondering what the state of a coma would be like. When scouring the internet, did you find that your experience is somewhat common, or similar to experiences other people report?
     
  9. Amazing how you can remember it, have you done any lucid dreaming before, reason I ask is because you remembered your experience,
    I had an operation and just before they knocked me out I said my mantras to try and remember what happens while I was under but I never remembered a thing, I know it's different to a coma and I'm just glad I didn't wake up during the op
     
  10. Well, if you believe in Roger Wolcott Sperry's Nobel prize winning experiment where he demonstrated two lobes of the same brain exhibited separate and unique consciousness, thus making consciousness an emergent function of the brain, then you should believe that it all goes away when the brain stops working.
     
  11. I have to look that up, it seems presumptuous.

    Like saying a stereo song is an emergent function of two seperate speakers. The audible property was emergent, but the information was not.
     


  12. I'm curious as to what's your support for consciousness after death then.

     
  13. I am neutral, which is better than pretending we have the answers when we have barely scratched the surface. (Not directed toward you)

    I don't think we have a clear grasp or definition of what consciousness is either.
     
  14. 2 many people wondering and focusing about death.
    Not enough people embracing and appreciating life.

     
  15. Anecdotal, but I had an uncle who was brain dead for 17 minutes and when we asked what he saw or remembered he said all the generic white light stuff then just nothing. Like he couldn't put it into words besides that it was just nothing and it was kind of blissful, but still just nothing. He was a devout catholic and became atheist after that lmao. Don't drink and drive, kids.
     
  16. The same thing that happens before birth.

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  17. Thats a big Question mark
     
  18. You don't remember?
     
  19. Deep question. I have stopped trying to figure it out or worrying about it. The only way i will know for sure is to die. I do believe that we all have an energy inside us that make our cells move around. It's called life. Where that energy goes when the physical body dies.....I do not know yet.. But I do believe that it goes somewhere......
     
  20. i would usually say that other drug talk is not accepted but with the amount of frequent posters saying them is there any rules against them on certain threads?
     
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