Why do cops shoot dogs?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by BigfuckingFirehose, Oct 22, 2015.

  1. #1 BigfuckingFirehose, Oct 22, 2015
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    Cops shoot dogs so much, that its kinda become a trend for them. If you think it's okay to let fucking police dogs maul civilians and their dogs, then shouldn't the same apply for an officer? They have absolutely NO fucking right to shoot, unless a dog has painfully sunk it's jaws into their flesh and won't let go or if they do, they keep coming back or there is somebody else who is being viciously attacked by one.
    And if you look at how many times police officers have been killed by dogs over the past 100 years in the United States, there was only THREE instances, the first occurring in 1916, then another one 7 years later in 1923 and the most recent in 1936. In all three cases, the dogs were rabid feral dogs that had bitten the officers, thus infecting them with Rabies. But back in those years, the treatment options were zero, and there was nothing they could've done to help somebody who contracted Rabies. Today we have cures for Rabies as well as vaccines (and not just for humans either). And even more, dogs aren't as feral as they used to be, due to all of the adoption, vaccines, neutering, etc. that are being done. So Rabies amongst house dogs isn't as common as it used to be anyway.




    While there have been about an additional three other fatal attacks by civilian dogs on police dogs (two of the cases were confirmed to be done by pitbulls), however that only applies to police dogs and not the police officers themselves. If anything, more cops have been killed by horses than any other animal. I don't know if cops still ride them, but I do know that at least at one point they did for training, riding to certain locations, riding on top of them as they were transporting inmates, etc. Cops were often thrown off of them by the horse itself, kicked fatally in the wrong spot, dragged, etc. which was what made them the biggest killers of cops amongst animals. So dogs really aren't the problem. It's the owners.




    And even though there has been at least SOME deaths of police officers done by dogs over the past 100 years here in the states, however that doesn't even come close to the number of dogs that were killed in the US by cops in the past year or two alone! What do you guys think?




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    https://www.odmp.org/k9/1545-k9-mako
     
  2. As someone who loves dogs and has been working with them since childhood.. I can say that if I were a cop and someone who I was trying to arrest had a big dog that wasn't secure, I'd probably shoot it. My grandfather was a dog catcher.. so I saw the damage a dog can do when it is in fight mode, and a dog is going to be in fight mode when a cop is trying to arrest their owner. They don't know about being arrested, they just see someone trying to harm the person they love. It sounds cruel, but that is the reality of it. At my work, I see so many people come in who are like "I can work with dogs.. I own one after all" and that is like their only qualification.. which is utter bullshit. Not trying to knock dog owners, but simply owning a dog doesn't give you the full experience of dogs. That is where this "outrage" comes from.. from a dog owner's point of view. Granted, a family dog probably isn't going to kill a cop.. but it's not fear of being killed by the dog that drives this. It's that it is a harmful obstacle to making your arrest.. and having to deal with a dog in fight mode while trying to arrest the person just isn't going to work. While the cop is busy trying to deal with a dog without shooting it.. the person will have ample extra time to escape or gear up to fight back. Now if the dog is secure, then there should be no reason to shoot it.. but if it isn't, it will be on a mission to protect it's owner. When you've worked with thousands of dogs.. bitten hundreds of times.. you'll understand, that when you are able to defend yourself against a dog attacking you, you're not going to wait and let it sink it's teeth into you before defending yourself. Sorry, but that's just asinine and akin to saying that you should let a person with a knife stab you before you defend yourself.


    Now on the other side.. there are too many police busts that never needed to happen in the first place, where there is a dog who gets shot, and that is fucked up.. but not because the dog was shot, but because it never needed to happen in the first place. If they would of taken the time to gather the proper information and not rush in all gung-ho cause they wanted to meet the quota or some shit.. it would of never happened. But for a proper arrest.. if there is an unsecured dog in the way of making the arrest, then defense needs to happen. Cops don't just shoot dogs either.. they've tasered and maced them before too, it really depends on the situation and what weapon they are using for said situation.

     
  3. #3 Lenny., Oct 22, 2015
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2015
    it's even worse when they break into the wrong house and kill the dog, which has happened i don't know how many times.


    it's sad.


    i think the answer to why they do what they do is because they can.
     
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    unless a BIG dog is attacking them, there is no reason to use deadly force...but the 'shoot unarmed people' cops these days will pump a tiny 'ankle biter' full of lead because they can get away with it.//static.grscty.com//public/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif

     
  5. I'm sure that most cops love dogs as much as the next guy but a dog is simply not equal to a human, even though many of them are nicer than a lot of people. Rabies shots for humans are painful and dangerous. Cops should not have to risk being mauled, ripped open or even killed by dogs. My opinion is, if they feel threatened, shoot.


     
  6. Kokesh for president 2020

     
  7. The sad thing is it's been shown that often on police raids they plan ahead of time to neutralize/kill the dogs. It's part of their game plan if they know there are dogs in the house.
    I can somewhat understand if cops are raiding a house and a dog becomes aggressive. But it seems like it's just standard practice that during a raid if they even see a dog they'll kill it.
     
  8. you have to think a little more LOGIKly, in my opinion.


    when you are performing a raid, you are expecting a shoot out. and when you are expecting a shootout, you dont want to be waiting to see if the dogs are going to attack you or not because you are worried about getting your head blown off by a guy with a gun.


    plus the dogs are usually used for protection purposes in drug houses or whatever it may be. meaning they will attack.

     
  9. nah. the reason why they do it is because they feel threatened by the dog and they are protecting themselves. dogs usually attack when people bust into the house.


     
  10. i completely agree.


    it just sucks cuz i love dogs SO MUCH
     
  11. Statistics show that most raids don't result in violent altercations, and that violent no knock raids are over used against non violent offenders.


    Countless examples of police raids show they kill dogs that show no sign of aggression or even running away.


    This example was just the other day, it wasn't during the raid, and the cop shot a 40 pound dog multiple times



     
  12. Lol

    Good luck shooting my dogs on my property, pigs.
     
  13. This issue is created by police in the US invading people's homes waaaay too often. No knock raids should be a last resort, used after exhausting all other options. The way they operate right now puts not only themselves at unnecessary risk, but also the public. Many innocent people and animals have been violently killed because of irresponsible no knock raids.
     
  14. Because cops like firing their weapons and are ttold their safety comes first so they can literally use any exscuse.

    Dogs are the easiest

    -Yuri
     
  15. maybe we dont need cops
    cuz
    maybe our dogs are cops
     
  16. Police Sate!!! Ha, first post.
    Seriously though, militarizing police is a big deal. The raids on state legalized dispensaries might have killed a couple pets, but they did it was probably because they expected to be confronted by big, dangerous druglords I'm sure. And what is the price of a dogs life compared to the security of knowing that the process of incarcerating all the druglords, terrorists, junkies, theives, poachers, bullys, bastards who don't pay their parking tickets and tax evaders has been sped up by creating armies of SWAT teams, doing away with probable cause and dismissing human decency. So the next time you hear about an innocent dog dying at the hands of a police officer remember his life was not in vain because that means at least one more lawbreaker is off the streets in a speedy fashion; and with any luck the local SWAT team may have enough time to deal with that tweeker neighbor of yours who has had his car with bad tags parked in front of his house for months... Maybe they will kill his dog too. He deserves it.
     
  17. Dogs are great and all but I think we might be better off if we were more concerned about the humans the police were shooting rather than the animals.

    Maybe I'm a non-humanphobe.
     
  18. I don't have any experience with rabies shots, but it sounds like they're an absolute picnic these days compared to a few decades ago :confused_2:


    What You "Know" About Rabies Shots is Wrong


    <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >The important thing to know in all this: the conventional wisdom is a fiction. I had one shot of vaccine -- in the shoulder, and four others -- gamma globulin in the wounds, and in the hips. Nothing hurt anymore that any shot you've ever had. And the vaccine is 100% effective in preventing death by rabies.</blockquote>

     
  19. Thank you, that is a great story. I remember hearing the stories of getting foot-long needles in the stomach, and if it's too late, or they don't work, going psycho and being dragged off to the loony bin by the men in white coats, in a straitjacket, gag and blindfold.


    I still don't blame cops for shooting aggressive dogs when necessary. I'm sure that there's been some unwarranted cases, but that's true with everything.


     

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