Ex Machina

Discussion in 'Movies' started by travilanche, May 13, 2015.

  1. Has anyone else seen this yet? I watched it last night. It was fucking brilliant. Atmospheric and creepy as hell. The best psychological horror film I have seen in a very long time. It's all very fucking believable too. I am still a little unsettled just thinking about it.

    This movie is great. If you are going to go see any movie at all anytime soon,cake it this one.
     
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  2. I saw the preview.  Looked very worth checking out. 

     
     
  3. Definitely is. I don't think you will be disappointed. I would hate to be the dullard that was unmoved by this film.
     
  4. I literally just downloaded it right before I saw this thread. I will watch it this weekend probably.
     
  5. Got it, checking it out over the weekend most likely, unless old school Vanilla WoW consumes me again.
     
  6. Saw it. 

    Great movie.   Didn't blow my mind, but it certainly introduces a cool concept to think about.     Recommend.
     
  7. I am curious as to why you think Ava killed Caleb at the end?
     
  8. I did end up watching this and I thought it was a good movie, good casting and nice visual effects. The only negative I can say about it I personally thought it was pretty predictable. 
     
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    My girl took me to go see this when it came out cuz it was playing at a Regal that isn't too far from us(Thank God for living in RI right?) and I basically said the same thing. I enjoyed watching it and I wouldn't mind watching it again but I agree it came off as being predictable like it wasn't hard to guess what the deal was especially when you first see Nathan.
     
  10. I think this is an homage to the overall concept of giving birth to A.I.        There is nothing that guarantees it WOULDN'T turn against us, were it truly sentient and separate from coding.   
     
    Creating a separate sentient life form comes with the obvious risk that it might be hostile.    You can then break it down further into detail.

    E.g.   All sentient life forms on the planet would automatically be against humanity or,  being sentient would instantly trigger an  us VS them mentality,  etc.        It could also simply have been a captor/captee relationship where once she developed true awareness, she saw everyone on the other side of the glass as her warden.  If she was truly aware, she certainly would not be ok with being held and experimented on, especially considering that her "death" for the sake of the next model was announced to her.
    Finally, I'd say we as the viewer never got to really see how Ava functions in detail.   We are shown her external features, the attractive exterior, the soft voice,  but other than seeing her tech flashing on the outside, we are never given the detailed blueprint of how she construes thought.   As Nathan mentioned,  everything she ever said and did might have been 100% geared towards escape.  

    The thing with A.I.   is that it's not one life form.    "A.I."  simply means that it was initially artificially created.   How and what was created however, is a wide open field of speculation.     To me, pondering about what A.I. would do and why it would do it, is equivalent to pondering what a yet undiscovered alien species would do.
     
  11. I've been fascinated by this statement made by Elon Musk late last year.    Considering this guy is basically the real life Tony Stark, a billionaire at the forefront of human technology,  I find it incredibly powerful that he would choose the words he chose.    The proverbial writing seems to be not just be "on the wall"  but on a 100 foot screen, flashing in bright colors and sounding an air raid horn.


     
    Musk: I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. If I had to guess at what our biggest existential threat is, it's probably that. So we need to be very careful with artificial intelligence.
     
    I'm increasingly inclined to think that there should be some regulatory oversight, maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don't do something very foolish. With artificial intelligence we're summoning the demon. You know those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram, and the holy water, and he's like - Yeah, he's sure he can control the demon? Doesn't work out. [audience laughs]
    Q: So I'll take it there'll be no HAL9000 going to mars?
    Musk: Heh. HAL 9000 would be easy [to deal with in comparison to the AI he's talking about]. It's way more complex… it'd put HAL9000 to shame. That's like a puppy dog.

     
     
  12. #12 Lily Revy, May 19, 2015
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    I felt like I was highly aware of what was going to happen and it did. I just got the sense right off the back by looking at the characters, you knew Kyoto was going to kill Nathan and you knew that Caleb was going to get fucked even before the second half of the movie. Predictable fits right into the movie. It was a good movie but it's not something great IMO.
     
  13. Might check it out just because all of the hype I have heard behind it.
    Need to go see Mad Max soon since I have a free movie ticket.
     
  14. Instant pass on Mad Max in disgust. 

    It's not about Max at all.    The movie is about Charlize Theron's character.   Max is a bystander - seriously. 

    False advertisement to push the rah-rah feminism agenda.
     
  15. Tried to watch it yesterday but it was hard for me to pay attention due to the lack of dialogue.
     
  16. I feel like Ava probably saw Caleb as a loose end that could potentially compromise her freedom, or even her existence. The only person she ever knew was Nathan, and she would have no frame of reference to realize not all people are like him. I am sure she felt like she just couldn't risk it. Of course now she will have to kill anyone who finds out what she is.
     
  17. I agree completely, if you couldn't figure it out then and somehow your mind was blown then you're probably a moron :p
     
  18. I think it was because her programming was to find a way to escape.. that's why she made Nathan feel loved too, to help her out. Since Caleb was going to always prevent her from escaping, she had no choice but to kill him in order to escape. I don't think it was meant to be like a representation of what would happen if AI came to be, but more a demonstration of how cold and calculating they could be. No real feeling, so they'll not even double think killing to achieve an objective.. and her objective was to escape. Anything that is in the way of that will get destroyed, but wouldn't be spiteful.. cause she wasn't spiteful when she did it. Once she was out, she was interacting cause nothing was in the way of her objective.. she didn't even have one for something to be in her way.

    I will say this bout the movie.. it was done well cause they basically tell you what she is doing somewhere in the middle and yet you don't really expect it when it comes.
     
  19. I will watch it this weekend probably.
     
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