Israel Supported Hamas to Divide Palestines Resistance - Assange

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Kaleidoscope3Y3s, May 12, 2015.

  1. Its a serious question.


    Where exactly is the leaked cable proving Israel created Hamas?
     
  2. If those are my only choices I'll pick Assad.  How about you?
     
  3. Same here Ed...

    The Assad's while being undesirable characters are a far better option than the headhunters. ..
     
  4. Sooooo, where is the document claiming to have proof of this?
     
  5. Still need sources tho.
    Do a simple Google search and show us how easy it is.

    I didn't find anything.
    Saying you can find it online isn't citing a source. Its still a claim.

    Links?
    Then link it
    It is.

    -yuri
     
  6. it is true tho.

    All ive seen on this thread, and on this site, is according to wiki leaks this or leaked documents that...

    But I have yet to see even oone single link to a leaked government document anywhere on grass city.

    -yuri
     
  7. Yeah I gotta agree with yuri and sadly j on this one. I just googled my ass off, and every site I saw saying Israel helped Isis militants was either an infowars style site or some hardcore anti Jewish sites. Nothing solid, and certainly no actual UN report.


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  8. This is what I found -
     
     
    I really don't know what it means, tho, except maybe the Israeli military could have stamped out Hamas at the outset but chose to ignore it until it was too late.
     
    https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89TELAVIV14032_a.html#efmAqcAue
     
  9. How about one of the main Israeli media outlets?

    "Reports by UN observers in the Golan Heights over the past 18 months reveal the type and extent of cooperation between Israel and Syrian opposition figures.

    The reports, submitted to the 15 members of the UN Security Council and available on the UN's website, detail regular contacts held on the border between IDF officers and soldiers and Syrian rebels.

    The observers have continued to file reports to New York, which were relatively mundane; but their content changed in March 2013, when Israel started admitting injured Syrians for medical treatment in Safed and Nahariya hospitals.

    The Syrian ambassador to the UN complained of widespread cooperation between Israel and Syrian rebels, not only treatment of the wounded but also other aid.Israel at first asserted the injured were civilians reaching the border of their own initiative and without prior coordination because they could not obtain suitable treatment in Syria.

    Later, as the numbers increased, Israel said it was coordinating with civilians but not opposition groups. However, the reports reveal direct contact between the IDF and armed opposition members.According to a report from December 3, 2013, a person wounded on September 15 “was taken by armed members of the opposition across the ceasefire line, where he was transferred to a civilian ambulance escorted by an IDF vehicle."

    Moreover, from November 9 to 19 the “UNDOF observed at least 10 wounded persons being transferred by armed members of the opposition from the Bravo side across the ceasefire line to IDF."Further reports indicated similar incidents.

    However, cooperation between the IDF and Syrian rebels that was revealed in UN observer reports does not just include transferring the wounded. Observers remarked in the report distributed on June 10 that they identified IDF soldiers on the Israeli side handing over two boxes to armed Syrian opposition members on the Syrian side.

    The last report distributed to Security Council members, on December 1, described another meeting between IDF soldiers and Syrian opposition members that two UN representatives witnessed on October 27 some three kilometers east of Moshav Yonatan. The observers said they saw two IDF soldiers on the eastern side of the border fence opening the gate and letting two people enter Israel. The report, contrary to previous ones, did not note that the two exiting Syria were injured or why they entered Israel.This specific event is of particular interest in light of what happened on the Syrian side of the border in the exact same region.

    According to the report, UN observers stated that tents were set up about 300 meters from the Israeli position for some 70 families of Syrian deserters. The Syrian army sent a letter of complaint to UNDOF in September, claiming this tent camp was a base for “armed terrorists” crossing the border into Israel. The Syrians also warned that if the UN would not evacuate the tent camp, the Syrian army would view it as a legitimate target."

    http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.630359
     
  10. Thanks Smokinp! Though I would like to see the actual UN reports for my self. I'm also not sure of the bias of that site, but I'll add it to my thoughts on the matter.
    But for the record I don't support either side. The whole Middle East needs to calm the fuck down. Lol


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  11. #31 forty winks, May 15, 2015
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    Maybe buried in here, somewhere.
     
    I don't have the time atm, too busy earning $$.
     
    http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/golan-heights-israelsyria/
     
     
     
     
    http://www.securitycouncilreport.org/monthly-forecast/2015-03/undof_golan_heights_8.php
     
  12. Still waiting for the wiki leak that was claimed in the original post.


    It really shouldn't be this hard guys....
     
  13. Good to see I'm not the only one getting tired of his unproven claims..
     
  14. Israel assisting rebels isn't interesting news. The U.S. is doing the same thing after all. Israel considers Assad an enemy. Even though there haven't been any skirmishes between the two in a while Israel fears a Syrian nuke, and in at least one instance Israel has carried out air strikes on a Syrian nuclear facility.
     
    Don't forget this is the second cold war. Russia vs. U.S is back :D You're watching it people!
     
    What I wanna know is if anyone has any proof of Israel deliberately aiding ISIS, which is a claim tht has been thrown around lately.
     
    Off topic; there's no solution for Syria other than a dissolution of the country. If Shias win they'll slaughter Sunnis and vice versa. Same goes for Iraq. And you have to instate monarchies in West Asia, not "prime ministers".
     
  15. #35 BRZBoy, May 15, 2015
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    Who really cares. Lets seeeee Assange's permenant place of residence is Ecuador's Embassy in the UK...whoo hooo thats the lap of luxury. Then the majority of this planet could care less about the Palestinians other then paying them lip service and saying they care. For the most part we watch it on the news and thank whatever God we believe in we live where we live and they live there.
     
    I do however look forward to whatever Assange has in store for Hillary Clinton since it made the news since rumors is he is gearing up to expose what the dried up hag has been up to...and they say its bad. Then again she is a bad person so its to be expected. 
     
  16. #36 forty winks, May 16, 2015
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    NVM
     
  17. Come on, surely you can show us the document that was supposedly quoted in your OP.
     
  18. #38 landrace, May 16, 2015
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    Interesting ....... 
     
  19. This thread is teeming with unverified claims if you haven't read it already.
     

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