Black spots, droopy/twisted leaves

Discussion in 'Sick Plants and Problems' started by Kastema, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. I'm growing bagseed in a pot. She's 23 days old, I'm using random potting soil (5.30 - 6 PH) and two 25w CFLs - I know, the light isn't strong enough. Hopefully I'll be able to fix the issue this week. I'm watering with 6.7 PH water whenever the soil is dry 2-3 cm in. She's on a 24/0 schedule - I'm trying to compensate for the weak lights by leaving them on all the time. I've fed her twice, 1/4 of recommended dose, using some nutrients that are (according to the label) meant for young plants.
     
    She was doing great last week, made a lot of progress, everything seemed fine. I noticed some yellowing on her oldest leaves and their veins so I got epsom salts and mixed some in her water. I think I calculated the dose correctly. However, her oldest leaves are now completely yellow. Not only that, I'm seeing the same yellowing on two other sets of leaves. She looks sad, her leaves are droopy, twisted and in weird, inconsistent shades of green. I noticed today she has some black/dark spots on the tips and along the edges of most of her leaves, even on the newest growth. She actually seems to have stopped growing in the past couple of days. 
     
    What the hell is going on, what do I do??

     

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  2. hey you are over watering i know for sure cause all the bark is floating to the top. Cut the water until magic happens....WTF does that mean exactly? well it means dont water the plant until you notice it looks better then water it. A plant that size only requires DROPS every three days
     
  3. Hey man thanks for the reply! You could be right, though I try to only water when needed. But I think the bark is on top because I'm a bit paranoid about drainage and over watering and such, so I dig around the soil (with a plastic spoon, gently and never too deep) every day to make sure there's enough air/oxygen in there and it doesn't stay too wet for too long. 
     
  4. I took a better pic of the spots. They aren't exactly black, more like black/purple.
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  5. #5 killset, Mar 15, 2015
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    Stop digging around in the soil. Some peoples idea of watering when needed is based on the person idea of when its needed not the plants. How often and how much do you water? Water thoroughly, let it dry out
     
  6. Well as I said, I check with my fingers and water whenever the soil feels dry 2-3-4 cm (~ an inch and a half) in. Generally once every 5-6 days, using a bit less than 200 ml of water. What's wrong with digging? It seemed like a good idea to me because my grandparents are farmers and they dig around their plants to turn the soil. It's supposed to fluff it up and provide more oxygen to the roots... I don't know, it makes sense to me, why do you think it's bad? 
     
    Over watering - yes, this is definitely turning out to be at least part of the issue if not the whole problem. I actually had neglected to turn the soil for a couple of days and then I noticed the spots and the drooping. I'm not saying that's the reason, but I though it might be related. So last night I turned it and today she's looking a bit better. However, there are weird spots on some of her leaves that are either new or I've failed to notice them until today. Something else that bothers me is her stems - they're red. I know it can be nothing or it could be a sign of magnesium deficiency... what do you guys think?
     
     
     
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  7. No nutrients yet, might be issue. Too much of one thing can cause deficiencies in other things.
     
  8. Digging slightly without disturbing your plant (moving it and tilting around or hurting the root system) may actually help growth. These plants are pretty tough but very gentle. I'm going to try your digging idea on a few


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  9. And I believe your plants have what's called the claw. It's caused by over watering but you know that lol


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  10. its only two things man...red stems are too many nutes and over watering
     
    Easy fix for the over watering...run a 80% perlite with drain holes..u cant really mess that up
     
    Also it lets you see that when soil is even slightly moist all the water u put in just falls out the bottom
     
  11.  
    dont dig pls ADD PERLITE TO EVERYTHING
     
    perlite is made of little digging and aerating gnomes anyway
     
  12. Get more light. At least a 250w mh.
    And add perlite.
     

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