College Education For Free

Discussion in 'The Bookshelf' started by shermdawg767, May 23, 2014.

  1. I don't need to pay to go to a university to obtain the information I want to learn for example I love biology and would love to learn as much as I can about how life operates and functions. I can go and purchase a biology college edition book and obtain the information that way.

    Though I wouldn't be able to have a career with this information because I don't have the piece of paper saying I went to an institution and received a degree.

    Any thought about this?


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  2. #2 STilladelph, May 23, 2014
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    College is not to learn, its to learn HOW. How to critically think, work in teams, and establish a base level of knowledge to develop in tbe real world.

    A degree is just the ticket you need to get through the front door. Sure you can tailgate in the parking lot but the game is much better observed from inside.
     
  3. Ah the life...

    I still vote for resorting back to medieval life. Keep the scientists for true medical purposes. Everybody do what you want to or born into. Even have kings. Jesters.

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  4. if you just want to learn for the sake of learning, more power to you.
    check out MIT OpenCourseWare 
     
  5. If you havent been exposed to a college class before I probably wouldnt start with MIT lol
     
  6. Lol word ^^ and I mean you there's a lot of insight into the information given in lectures by people who've studied the subject in question for years. Just because you have all the information in front of you doesn't necessarily mean your going to understand it all on the first go.
     
    For things like biology there's also a lot of labs and field work involved that you won't have an opportunity to do if you just buy a textbook.
     
    What your thinking about is what's called passive learning, whereas going to university allows you the opportunity to engage in active learning, which is proven to help you retain the information much better and gain more insight from it.
     
    Also like Stil said it teaches you how to work in a group setting, and critical thinking/learning techniques.
     
  7. I thought about this before.  But like you said, it doesn't matter how smart you are.  It matters whether you have a degree or not.
     
  8. Consider becoming an international student, in many countries college is dirt cheap.
     
    france, italy, germany, ireland, scandinavian countires. even singapore.
     
    America and Britain are the only places where people go bankrupt trying to go to college.
     
  9. smart doesnt mean just IQ level, smart means you had enough patience and self control to put yourself through roughly 40 classes. Whats not smart is thinking by not getting an education and bettering yourself that you're somehow "stickin it to the man." These days college degrees are a dime a dozen and if you want a job you really need to stand out from the crowd
     
  10. #10 shermdawg767, May 24, 2014
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    A college education is vital not only to improving your smarts but also your character. It allows a person to say "hey I got a degree and put up with all that shit in college", it shows they have what it takes to work for whoever is hiring.

    But isn't the real reason why we go to college is to make more money then someone working at McDonalds. Money is the motive. If no one could make a good salary from getting a degree, IMO I think people would say college is a waste of time.

    Again as I said in the first post if I wanted education I could just read a college books. Sure it's not close to real deal but I'm getting the gist. But that's if you just want to the learn the info.


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  11. Simply put, college is for getting fucked up and getting a degree.
     
    You can find the same information online for free or in a textbook from Amazon.
     
  12. #12 Cyllas, May 24, 2014
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    I dont understand the thought that college is "going through that shit", Im passionate about science, and i love learning.
     
    College isn't something that I'm have to "go through" to get to the light at the end of the tunnel, i LOVE being in college, i love learning.
     
    Find a passion, seriously, college is awesome, i love sitting in classes and reading book inbetween and doing homework.
     
    If you hate being there, reconsider why your there.
     
    You meet lots of people with similar interests so its social networking as well.
     
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    they have all course levels (freshman - senior). if OP is interested in learning he/she could easily access all the available resources for free. most of the entry level classes have lecture slides, assignments, tests, answer keys, and even lecture videos. regardless, a vast majority of universities post their resources online. i do see your point on difficulty...
     
    but it should be much easier to grasp the material with an expert presenting the material to you, rather than trying to digest an entire textbook alone. 
     
  14. #14 methatfemme, Jun 3, 2014
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    University is free in many countries in Europe. Granted, the standard of living costs more, and taxes are up there, but it's free! People are so much happier OUT if the US. America drowns you in debt for an education. You're born in debt.

    Edit: actually, very few countries now, but still possible; Norway.
     
  15. I never understood wtf we pay for when we go to school. 1) someone to lecture us on the info 2) someone to mark the assignments 3) equipment necessary to have the training 4) upkeep and electricity to run the joint.

    We're getting scammed for knowledge through a "degree".

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  16. #16 Kimono, Jul 18, 2014
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    I think it all depends on the type of experience you want to have in learning. Learning is learning whether you get it through an established accredited institution or not. By no means is formal education the be all and end all of making it life. It certainly does have its advantages, like facilities to learn in a practical way if you are looking to get educated in subjects where lab work may be necessary. The fact that you will be around like minded individuals all the time. The certification you get when you get your degree etc.It is true that we live in a world where you are likely to get a better paying job if you have certification from an accredited institution, but at the same time I find that formal learning seems to have a very much inclined towards rote learning, and I am not sure that there is enough emphasis on the importance of imagination. I often marvel at pioneers of the past who that pioneered much of the knowledge that is incorporated into modern curricula, people who truly ventured into uncharted territory. Men that were driven purely by an insatiable curiosity. At times I feel that learning the formal way, is too rigid to inspire any real imagination.
     
    I am not saying that formal education does not foster inventive minds at all, but rather I feel that it could possibly be structured in such a way that would be much more conducive to imaginative thinking. This is crucial because imagination is the realm from which emerges knowledge. I think that it is possible to have a career in the field that you want to pursue, you just need two things, an unshakable will to achieve it and an imagination of EPIC proportions.    
     
  17. khanacademy, mit open courseware, google scholar. I'm in college and you basically teach yourself but they have tutors and stuff to help you. The secret to success in college is being able to learn quickly. Khan academy is a good place to start. Entry level stuff but easy to understand they have almost all of the fundamentals. 
     
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    What he does not have is the lab time or a kit, I mean he will learn but to an extent a lot of learning goes on when you have to know it for the test or because you need to pass lab. As weird as it might sound, sometimes being forced to know it is actually effective. 
     
  19. Also he has no one to ask questions to clarify things. You know you can apply for federal fafsa aid and take these classes at community college for free or a lot less than university. You need math to do science, biology requires at least chem 1 to really comprehend. 
     
  20. The more people earn degrees, the lower the value of said degree becomes....its like having too many chefs in one kitchen or having too much product to sale...some of it is going to go to waste...not everybody will become employed its too many degrees and not enough jobs floating out here
     

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