Hopefully someone on GC will be able to help me out So I'm about to order a HPS from insidesun but don't know which one to get. Would love to hear from someone who has bought from inside sun. ok, here are my options. $145 Product Overview: A complete 400 watt High Pressure Sodium lighting system with Chrome reflector Product Details: This system includes: New Ballast New 400 HPS bulb 18' Chrome Batwing Reflector Electrical cable - Wall to Ballast 3.5 feet (standard 3 prong plug) Electrical cable - Ballast to Light 10 feet 3 year warranty (except on bulb) OR for $125 US READY TO PLUG INTO HOUSEHOLD CURRENT! PLEASE DISREGARD THE BULB SHOWN IN THIS PIC. THIS UNIT COMES WITH A 400 HPS BULB MADE BY SLI LIGHTING AS WELL AS A 400 WATT METAL HALIDE CONVERSION BULB MADE BY VENTURE LIGHTING!!!. This item comes with a 3 year warranty from our company! You are bidding on a complete 400 watt 120 volt high pressure sodium remote ballast grow light system with chrome batwing reflector. This system includes: 1)New 400 Watt HPS Ballast built into a USED ballast housing. 2) New 400 Watt HPS bulb and New 400 MH conversion bulb. 3)New 18" chrome batwing reflector. 4) Electrical cables - Wall to ballast 3.5 feet (Standard 3 prong plug) Electrical cable - Ballast to Light 10 feet. The Ballast housing will either be white or gray. The 1 year warranty covers everything but the bulb. Shipping per light is $20. Each additonal light will be only $15 each to ship. This item will ship via DHL Ground. Shipping prices only apply to the 48 states. If you are in alaska or hawaii check for shipping prices before bidding. We accept paypal, money orders and cash. HAPPY BIDDING!!! I Talked to a guy from Inside sun and he said the first one i showed ya is in a different housing than the second. The guy said that the first one is better because it has a slotted housing and will keep cooler than the second. But Dang, that second one comes with a free MH conversion bulb. Anybody bought any of these?? The Sooner I get some feedback the sooner I can order the light and get on with a 'Grow Show'. Thanks GC
they're both from inside sun? how much $ for the first one? inside sun warrantees all of their ballasts so i'd go with the 2nd one that has the mh conv bulb, unless the first one is alot cheaper.
You didn't say how much the first kit was. Conversion bulbs are fairly cheap, and that alone shouldn't swing it. The ballast in the first kit looks solid, the ballast in the second kit looks like a radio alarm clock. The image isn't giving much away. -mu
It's a USED ballast housing. I doubt that would be covered by the warranty. I'd also be asking why it needed to be removed from its original housing. -mu
The New 400w HPS on Inside sun is 145 plus shipping. The first one does look more solid but both of them have the same warranty. The cheaper one isn't an INSIDESUN product, but they sell them. It's the Econo version
I don't see the pint of the MH conversion bulb. It's way better to have a seperate chamber for vegging, otherwise you are just wasting time. If the second system isn't InsideSun, I guess the whole warranty thing is moot, but it comes with three years, so that's pretty good. I'd still go with the first one, because it looks solid, and InsideSun is reputable and well known. It very much depends on what type of HPS lamp they are each sending with the kit. If one send a bog-standard SON-T, and the other an Eye Hortilux, that's a massive difference. My motto is buy the best you can afford. A great deal looks fine on paper, but when your ballast blows two weeks from the end of your flowering cycle, it won't seem such a bargain. -mu ps. whichever you buy, get a spare igniter. If anything's gonna blow, that's what it will be.
(quote)I don't see the pint of the MH conversion bulb. It's way better to have a seperate chamber for vegging, otherwise you are just wasting time very good point -mu, but not all of us have that kind of room lol! i only wish i could have two chambers. as it is i'm going to take a clone before i flower and keep it as small as possible in a very small (like 3' square cardboard box w/cfl's) and see if i can sorta experiment with bonsai to keep the mother small until i finish flowering, and then take as many clones off of her as i can. if that works i'll do it in repitition.
Clone mums can be kept pretty much anywhere. Low light isn't a problem, they just grow more slowly. The bonsai mum technique is ideal. I've currently got four parents living like that, and have taken quite a few clippings, even when I don't need them, keeps 'em bushy. I usually smoke the trimmings. And of course you mean, take clones while the first crop is flowering. You want those babies ready to go as soon as the flowering chamber is free. You could have seven or more weeks of vegging, and put some fairly sizable plants into flower. Bigger plants = more budz. -mu
(quote)And of course you mean, take clones while the first crop is flowering thats what i meant, thanks! so if clones can live on low light, could i concievably take clones and keep them alive, say, on a windowsill or something until my cab is empty? or would they require at least the light from a 4' shop light until it's time? this time i'll clone only a couple weeks into flower as last time i did it when there was big buds, and goddamn it took forever to root and reveg. a lesson learned, i guess. then again i might just use the cardboard box idea....maybe just one clone from each strain and grow those out to be monsterous. too many choices/possibilities. sorry for the threadjack.
I'd say your going to need the shop light. I'd also, go with #2, remember the housing is only the shell, they don't wear out. Whats inside is what counts and that is very likely inside sun products.
Thanks guys for your input. I think you will all be happy to know that I purchased the 2nd light. With shippin and everything it came out to be $146, not bad eh? Once the light gets in I'll be A O.K.