World Religions

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by dattaswami, Nov 15, 2009.

  1. World Religions


    If anyone says that his/her religion is the only path to God and that other paths lead to hell, I have one humble question. The question is for every religion without any trace of partiality. The simple question is: Today I have heard your Religion and if I follow that, I reach God and if I refuse I will go to the hell for my own fault. This is very much reasonable. But before your ancestors discovered our country, the literature or even the name of your religion was not known to our ancestor and he could not reach God for no fault of him. But your ancestor reached God through your religion at that time.

    Even if I assume that my ancestor will take rebirth now and will follow your religion to reach God, such possibility is ruled out because you say that there is no rebirth for the soul. Thus my ancestor suffered forever for no fault of him and the responsibility for this falls on the partiality of God. Had the God been impartial, He could have revealed your religion to all the countries at a time. Had that happened, my ancestor might have also reached God as your ancestor. Therefore your statement proves your own God partial.

    The only way left over to you to make your God impartial is that you must accept that your God appeared in all the countries at a time in various forms and preached your path in various languages. The same form did not appear everywhere and the same language does not exist everywhere. The syllabus and explanation are one and the same, though the media and teachers are different. Can you give any alternative reasonable answer to my question other than this? Certainly not! Any person of any religion to any other religion can pose this question.

    Moreover every religion states that their God only created this world. Unfortunately this world is one only and every God cannot create the same world. There are no many worlds to justify that each God created His own world. Therefore any human being with an iota of commonsense has to agree that there is only one impartial God who created this one world and He came in different forms to different countries and preached the same path in all the languages simultaneously at one time.

    Let this logic sword of the divine knowledge cut the rigid conservatism of the religious fans in this world to establish the Universal Peace. I need not beg all these religious followers to be united and harmonious to each other for the sake of world peace. Such begging appeals are made enough in the past. The religious fans feel that there is no unity really in the religions but they have to be united since their kind hearts melted by these appeals. Thus a temporary change was only brought. At the maximum one generation of the followers got united. The next generation fights with each other because they feel that there is no real unity in them due to lack of the real unity in their religious scriptures.

    A permanent solution for this does not lie in the begging appeals, which may or may not unite the followers. Even if the appeals unite such unity is not permanent. If the real unity in all the religious scriptures is exposed through the logical divine knowledge, the followers have to be united for generations together. Therefore, My attack is not on the hearts of the followers through love and kindness. My attack is on all the religious scriptures through intellectual logical analysis of divine knowledge. The unity of hearts through love can be only temporary. The unity of brains through intellectual analytical divine knowledge will be permanent. Hearts agree but brains realize. Agreement is temporary, but realization is permanent. Thus this is My first blow of My divine Conch shell for the permanent unity of all the religions aiming at eternal Universal Peace.

     
  2. You obviously have no idea about religions. You claim "all religions say their god created eveything, and that if you don't believe in him you'll go to hell"

    Well, only 3 of the many religions believe that, do some research bud, it's people like you that are the reason for mass atheism, because people only seee whats put in front of their eyes and it makes no sense so they do not accept it, while theres religions out there that offer true happiness and learning, not anti-life teachings that say to accept this and do this and you'll be saved.
     
  3. Spirituality Vs Religion


    Every Religion in this world wants you to get rid of bad qualities at least from today for the admission into that religion which is practically impossible. The reason is that these bad qualities were grown like hills for the past millions of births. This small human life is insufficient even to move them, not to speak of removing them. People can control the bad qualities to some extent by their efforts. These bad qualities are frequently sparking in the minds of even the most pious sages. If one says that he is good and he is devoid of all the bad qualities, it only cheating others, which in turn is cheating oneself. Due to this practically impossible condition, for the religious admission, people have developed allergy towards any religion because the eligibility for admission is impractical.

    The religious preachers have confused the whole situation by fusing religion and spiritualism. Religion is the context of GOD to establish peace and justice in this world. In this context, you must control your bad qualities so that you will not disturb the peace and justice and will not harm any good person in this world. If you disturb the world by your bad qualities, God will punish you. But, in this context, it is sufficient if you control the bad qualities since you cannot remove them. The Religion ends here. Some religions strictly end here without any spiritualism.

    The spiritualism is the context in which you have to make efforts to reach God. In this context, you need not even control your bad qualities because, God has no personal objection towards your bad qualities. These bad qualities cannot be obstacles in any manner in this context. Moreover, when you turn these bad qualities towards the God, they become your helpers. Any quality whether good or bad, is created by God only to help you in reaching Him. If you realize the original aim of all these qualities, good or bad, why should you control these qualities, which are with you as a helper? No fool controls his helpers. So, any quality when involved in spiritualism is used for its original aim, it becomes a good quality. So all your qualities become good in spiritualism and you need not put any effort to remove or even control them. When the qualities are not used for their original purpose, they become bad qualities. Therefore, whatever qualities turned towards the world, are bad qualities. In this spiritualism, there is no need of any effort even to control these bad qualities.

    Then, for what, our effort should be made? Our effort should be concentrated to achieve “Bhakthi” which is the love on God. “Bhakthi” is achieved and is grown by the knowledge of God. For example, you came to know that Bombay City exists. This is the knowledge of existence of Bombay. By this you want to see Bombay. As you know the details of Bombay more and more, your desire to see the city becomes more and more. Knowing details about the Bombay City is again the further knowledge. So, knowledge is directly proportional to desire. First Rukmini heard that there is Lord Krishna on this earth. As she heard more and more about Lord Krishna from Sage Narada, her love on Krishna increased enormously. Narada means he who gives knowledge. Therefore, ‘Jnana”(knowledge) generates and develops “Bhakthi (devotion)”. Due to Bhakthi, the Lord is attained. Gita says the same ‘ONLY BY BHAKTHI I AM ATTAINED' (‘Bhaktya………').
     
  4. That's not a question (and no, that's not reasonable).
     
  5. The essence of all the religions is one and the same



    The essence of all the religions is one and the same since the Universal God gives it. The religions are different from each other because the religious leaders who are the human beings create the material that surrounds the essence. The skeleton is one and the same and there is no difference in the skeletons of the human beings. The difference lies only in the external materials covering the skeletons, which are flesh, skin etc., in these external materials differences arose due to deficiencies. Suppose there are two students. One is weak in physics and the other is weak in chemistry.

    Each student mocks the other for the deficiency. Therefore, the deficiency is the root of difference and quarrels in the religions. The reason for the deficiency is the human brain that developed the external body of the spiritual knowledge. Therefore, the spiritual knowledge is the skeleton and the religion is its body. The deficiency in a religion can be removed by taking the merits of the other religions. Every religion has deficiency and the rectification of that deficiency should be from other religion without any ego and jealousy. Do not think that you are without defects. Do not think that your parents have no defects. Do not think that your teachers and preachers do not have defects. Therefore, observe others and take the merits from anybody without prejudice.

    The blind thinking that your nation, your state, your district, your town or village, your caste, your family, your parents, etc., is the best or highest should be eradicated from your brain. Always base your self on your analysis and commonsense that is observed from the examples in the world. Your elders might have polluted the scriptures but this world is the best scripture written by God. This world-scripture is Universal without any color of any religion. You can develop the entire spiritual knowledge by observing this world and the scientific knowledge existing in the various examples or items of the world. Any human being cannot pollute these. You must be scientific and analytical in your belief. The ignorant and clever religious elders always exploit blind belief.



     
  6. So you're just going to ignore us and keep posting like a bot?
     
  7. what is your point?
     
  8. I told you it's not reasonable to expect to go to hell for failing to "find" god, and rather reacting to that you quoted my post and then pasted some unrelated crap which I assume is from some website your cult runs.
     
  9. Some people claim like that if one do not follow their religion then they will got hell. This is the fanatics of every religion claims. I will break all these by My divine knowledge and bring peace in this world.
     
  10. Good luck with that. I find it's best to start with more attainable goals.
     
  11. Logic Only can bring unity among religions


    Today the development of science is terrible, which is the faculty of logic and analysis. Today the heart is reduced and the brain is expanded. The old generations were having a broad heart and less brain. The heart can be inspired by appeals but the brain will not be satisfied by appeals. If you appeal “All the human beings are one and the same internally and externally. God is one only. Do not quarrel with each other and be united as one family”, the effect of such appeal is temporary only. When the devotee returns back, the emotion is subsided by next day itself.

    The reason is that his or her intellectual facility (Buddhi) is not satisfied. You have not given the logical analysis of such concepts. You have worked at the level of mind only and not at the level of intelligence. Mind is the steering rod and the intelligence is the driver. Mind is in the hands of intelligence. Due to this reason only, the Lord started Gita with the concept of knowledge and analysis (Buddhi Yoga). The driving knowledge of the driver is more important than the driver. The correct driving depends on the correct driving knowledge imparted on him by the teacher of the driving school, who is the Satguru.

    In the case of Arjuna, the teacher of the driving school himself became the driver! You cannot imagine the fortune of Arjuna. When God Himself became the driver, He is called as Satguru. The word Sat is used to mean God. Guru means guide.
     
  12. ill keep reading- just cus you got my interest
     
  13. If god truly did exist, I would look for him some where other than the institution of organized religion.

    I don't believe in heaven or hell, because this concept was created by humans looking to explain the unknown.

    Just because something is 'believed' by the majority of the population does not mean that superstition may be substituted for knowledge.

    People used to largely believe in spontaneous generation, now we KNOW that isn't the case.

    Maybe once religion can prove something to me I will start worshiping figments of my imagination, until then I will sit idly by and contend with my personal spirituality and set of morals.

    :wave:
     
  14. ok so he may be alittle out there but he does have some very good points along the way?
     
  15. The reason they're all so similar is because most were based off of already existing religions.
     
  16. Hell, Heaven and Kingdom Of Lord


    This universe is infinite. I am unable to show the existence of these super worlds to you. I accept my incapability. But you are also incapable to prove directly the non-existence of these super worlds. Have you taken all over the universe and said, " Here ends the universe. Beyond this point there is no universe. This is the compound wall of the space. Your super world does not exist anywhere''. Therefore, there is equal chance for the existence and non-existence of the super worlds according to the theory of probability.

    Now let us analyse of our cases. Both of us are eating to live. The basic needs are satisfied in the cases of both of us. You have spent extra time also in earning more money, which may give you some problems of health like sugar, B.P etc., due to over enjoying. I have not earned more money and I am healthy due to normal food. None of us will carry the money with us after death. The money given to the children may also be lost in several ways. Therefore, I do not find much difference between us, once the basic needs are satisfied. I am poor because I have spent my extra time in the service of God.

    Suppose after my death, you are correct and there are no super worlds. In such case what I have lost? There is no loss for me. But after your death, suppose I am correct and there are super worlds. You have lost every thing and God will not save you. Thus, even on accepting your argument, based on the equal probability, it is better to serve the Lord by sacrificing the extra time and energy for the Lord after earning the basic needs. You must read the theory of probability, which is perfectly a scientific theory.
     
  17. If you are unable to show them to us, how did you find them yourself?

    As I said last night, anything is imaginable. I accept that your super worlds exist. In your imagination. So, I shouldn't have to answer this folly of an argument you've made.

    One fact remains however: you have chosen to believe in the existence of something for which you have no proof or even any reasonable expectation of. That's not rational. Before there was proof of black holes, people believed they were there because they had reason to. They had theories and tests and observations and eventually discovered that, sure enough, an object can be that massive. It is rational to believe in the existence of the unknown when you have reasonable expectation but no proof, but not rational if you have neither.

    The one life you had, in the slavery of superstition.

    I see, Pascal's Wager. I hope you understand that is a false dichotomy. A million possibilities exist from which you draw only two. Either god rewards us, or he punishes us. God, as you say, is unimaginable, so everything you know about him is a lie. You cannot say how he acts when we die (if he does exist). If I am wrong and God does exist, then forcing me to burn in hell is just one of the infinite possibilities. If he exists, I seriously doubt he cares enough to set up all these fantasies you've imagined in your willingly primitive mind.

    Interesting that you defend your imagined super worlds with a theory that concerns itself with random events.
     

  18. You are a pretentious asshole. Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Catholicism, Zoroastrianism, plus several other monotheistic religions believe this, not just three religions. I am an atheist taking world religions in college. I have been presented with a fairly good overview of the more "mainstream" religions and find it all bullshit. Atheism is not a result of lack of information... that is what religion tries to solve.
     
  19. You may be right about your approach to organized religions. But don't you think it is worthy to find an answer to the existence of God.

    Does God exist?
    How do/can we know?
    What happens if he does?

    Of course, these are not easy questions, and there are no simple answers. These have been the questions that mankind has been searching since the .....
     

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