Winter2009 Waterfall DWC - HGS Avalanche & White Russian

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  1. #1 IMgreen, Sep 18, 2009
    back at they hydro game again!

    strarted germing 12 seeds yesterday for this next round. There are 6 avalanche and 6 white russian - three of the russians are from my garden and the rest are from highgrade

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    the plan is to start them in baskets of lavarock and hydroton and veg them until there's room in the flower room. maybe about 4-5 weeks from now. I only have 9 spots on the root zone deck - so I hope they aren't all female.

    these will be the first avalanche in hydro. the last time I ran them it was in dirt. am hoping the really short veg keeps them small enough to do like a mini hydro sog. never tried that either, usually it's 6+ weeks of veg from seed before flowering. that's 4+ weeks of veg in my time. I don't count sprouts or seedlings as veg time
     

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  2. #2 myles117, Sep 18, 2009
    Score!!!! The avalanche is back :D abnd russian is in there too. Im subbed. If there are more then 9 female your gunna have fun finding space for em. Can't kill a girly can you dude? ;) It just ain't right :laughing:
     
  3. #3 IMgreen, Sep 18, 2009
    wouldnt be the first time myles!

    thanks for dropping by
     
  4. #4 yannick8164, Sep 19, 2009
    subscribed!! ill be following this closely bc your experienced and i just ordered some crimea blue (barney), should be in, in about 1 week or 2 - first indoor grow:D

    best of luck! :smoking:
     
  5. #5 IMgreen, Sep 20, 2009
    2 of the avalanche and 2 of the HGS white russians have tap roots this morning! that was fast. just put them in on thursday and its sunday morning.

    none of the new seeds did anything yet

    aint got nothing ready for them yet, thought I would have a couple days. Will put them into small baskets of ht and lavarock tomorrow and stick the baskets into a bin full of lavarock under a small cfl in the veg chamber for a while
     
  6. #6 77401, Sep 20, 2009
    The new seeds are the one you produced, so is there a period of curing for the seeds or can they go straight to germination?

    Subscribing.
    +rep
     
  7. #7 IMgreen, Sep 20, 2009
    I don't really know, usually seeds in the garden are accidental. could make sense that they might need time for something, they didnt just fall off the plant or anything like that

    won't even make shit up as to why they will be fine, will just wait and see. patiently
     
  8. #8 77401, Sep 20, 2009
    I'm sure they'll be OK

    I did find this online, interesting to read and there is some stuff that don't apply to MJ
    I really never gave it much thought, since I've never run into beans fresh from the stalk, they are usually bought or bag beans.

    [FONT=&quot]How do I start seeds indoors, and why should I do it?[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]​
    [FONT=&quot]2. Seed Preparation [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]In nature, most seeds are produced and matured in late summer. They fall to the ground during the fall or winter, are carried around by birds or squirrels, lay in the cold for the winter, and then start to germinate and grow when the spring sun warms the soil, and those April showers begin to fall. Indoors, we need to mimic the effects of at least some of these natural events to trick our seeds into sprouting when we want them to. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]One effect of being carried around by those garden inhabitants, or laying all winter in the damp soil, is that the outer casing of the seed becomes soft or cracked, allowing water and nutrients to enter to the heart of the seed. Indoors we mimic this effect in one of two ways, depending on the seed. Some seeds need to be soaked for 24 - 48 hours in warm water. Some need to be rubbed with sandpaper or a file, or in some cases the outer shell can be carefully cut with a sharp blade (a process called "scarification"). Many seeds lack a tough casing, and don't need either of these treatments. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Another effect of the winter is a period of cold followed by warmth, which tells the seed that winter has come and gone, and spring has arrived. We can imitate this by a process called "stratification," which entails placing the seeds in the refrigerator (or any place cooler then 13C/52F, but above freezing) for a period of time ranging from a few days to several weeks. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]If this sounds too complicated, relax. Most seeds don't require these particular tactics. The ones that do most often are perennials. The seed packets will tell you whether your seeds require scarification or stratification before they will germinate. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Most annuals, including most food plants, require only the signs of imminent spring - warm soil, rain, and sometimes light - to germinate. Those are pretty easy to supply. To imitate the warm soil of spring, place newly seeded pots in a warm spot. To imitate the damp spring weather, it helps to cover your seed pots or trays with something to keep them humid. The seed packet will tell you if the seeds need light to germinate. If not, cover the trays to keep out light. [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
     
  9. #9 IMgreen, Sep 20, 2009
    aahhhh!!

    TMI!


    lol
     
  10. #10 myles117, Sep 20, 2009
    hahahaha not much of which applies here :p
     
  11. #11 IMgreen, Sep 21, 2009
    Put a few of them into their baskets of lavarock and hydroton:

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    they are under a bin in a closet with 2 normal cfl's above them and I clone the exact same way. there's a large piece of lavarock in the bottom of each of the baskets so the sprouts dont fall out the bottom while they are taking root and they need hand watering until they have roots outside the baskets just like any other hydro seedling but they can stay in this basket/bin combo for a pretty long time (the flower room still has a few weeks to go)
     

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  12. #12 Cutter Bob, Sep 21, 2009
    Can't hardly wait for them 2 jump up....I'll be watchin........i get a front row seat this time..;)
     
  13. #13 IMgreen, Sep 22, 2009
    yeah you got in nice and early cutter

    thanks for dropping in!
     
  14. #14 myles117, Sep 22, 2009
    watch out cutter, Im a few rows behind you and you can be sure I'll b throwing paper airplanes at the back of your head when greens not lookin ;) :laughing:
     
  15. #15 IMgreen, Sep 23, 2009
    so far no good one the new seeds so I am gonna say they do need a bit of down time before germination. The three HGS and the 6 avalanche all sprouted but not the newbies

    here's a first look at them!

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    this is the last germed avalanche seed tucked into it's basket

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    not the end of the world if my seeds don't germ yet, one white russian in hydro will yield a lot if vegged long enough and I expect GREAT things from the avalanche in the rig
     

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  16. #16 screwdababylon!, Sep 24, 2009
    howdy green!
    whats up?
    u started a new run?
    did u just throw those germinated babys into rocks with no rockwool? Oo
    :wave:
     
  17. #17 IMgreen, Sep 25, 2009
    hey screwd!

    yes indeedy - just put them right into the baskets with the rocks and ht. nothing to get wet this way

    :D
     
  18. #18 IMgreen, Sep 25, 2009
    the 3 seeds I grew did not pop :hide:

    they must need time to do something before they are viable

    we'll wait and see
     
  19. #19 Smoked365, Sep 25, 2009
    I read somewhere that seeds that don't pop, can pop months later if you give them another go. ;)




    s
     
  20. #20 IMgreen, Sep 25, 2009
    from what I am hearing its like buying a handgun - there's a waiting period for new seeds
     
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