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Will this work

Discussion in 'Weed Edibles' started by TheDankEngine, Oct 24, 2021.

  1. Hello, I have purchased Jack Daniels and another vodka that is 55% alcohol. Can I take decarbed wax and just drop it into the bottles then shake until it dissolves? Of course I would then shake it every day for weeks while it is in a freezer. I am a novice and I am still also having trouble with decarbing concentrate as my edibles are never near as potent as they should be. Any help would be greatly appreciated
     
  2. I will also be posting pics of the decarb process for input on when it looks complete because it seems to me that after 30 minutes at roughly 250 degrees Fahrenheit it still bubbles when i stir it. I have purchased two oven thermometers to get as close to 250 as I can
     
  3. Yes, you can do that, but I wouldn't do it that way. Once it's decarbed it's active and weeks in the freezer isn't going to do anything more. What are you trying to make? An infused liquor? 55% alcohol means 45% water and water and concentrate so not mix. You can infuse your Jack Daniels, but you can't reduce and concentrate it to make it more potent. What is your plan for your infused spirits?
     
  4. I desire to have infused liquor. I did not plan on concentrating it. I was just going to throw 2 grams of decarbed wax into the bottle of jack and vodka each. Why doesnt it need time to sit? Doesnt all of the thc have to bind to alcohol or something? Or is infusing not necessary for metabolizing thc?
     
  5. Alcohol has to be at least 190 proof like everclear, is what I use. Works best imo
     
  6. Then how come I see tutorials where they say you can take decarbed bud and infuse into jack daniels or similarly anything else thats 40% or above? Is there a reason why I cannot do the same process but replace the decarbed bud with decarbed wax?
     
  7. Because there's a million ways to skin a cat
     
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  8. Damn ok I have read alot of bad advice from "reputable" sources. Could I ask you for any input on how to gauge when the bubbling is done? I've been using my oven and it always immediately completely bubbles but then seemingly never goes clear like in the timelapses I've looked up. I guess I have to document an attempt of mine for anyone to really say. I having trouble finding a troubleshoot guide online for decarbing wax because I've decarbed weed before and the edibles were potent.
     
  9. You can stick it in the oven, 240°F for about 40 minutes but with the wax you want all the bubbles have stopped bubbling. That means that it is decarbed. It may take longer or shorter but as long as the bubbles are gone you're good.
     
  10. Thank you very much I will try that and it will probably yield better results than what I was currently doing. Also, when infusing it into butter does it matter if the potency is relatively high for the amount of butter being used? In other words, if I want to make really strong edibles like 90 mg per teaspoon would the butter struggle to absorb all of it or need extra infusion time?
     
  11. #11 GroBuddy, Oct 25, 2021
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    If you know around about the thc amount you're working with there's a few online calculators. Just google thc serving calculator

    To a certain extent. Once you exceed the limit the texture will change

    Unless you're pressing your own that can get rather expensive. Look into getting a magical butter. Make some tincture and pour that into your bottle of Jack. In small amounts until it's good.
     
  12. When I decarb wax the tiny bubbles never really stop completely. These days I decarb before making concentrate so I don't stress over tiny bubbles.

    Add the wax to the JD and vodka and see what happens. If it dissolves into a clear solution you're done, if it doesn't dissolve or dissolves into a cloudy solution you need to add more ETOH until it turns clear or else the THC will separate out on standing forming an oil slick.

    Joker is right, you don't need to do anything after the wax dissolves into the alcohol. If you're using oil to pull THC from flower or kief instead of alcohol then it needs some dwell time.
     
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  13. I think I'm not going to risk wasting my wax right now until I get a good decarb. I watched this video from what seems to be a reputable guy and he claims that if I am decarbing at 250 or below then I shouldn't worry about thc degradation from prolonged heat exposure. He even cited a test that showed the conversion was extremely slow. Does this sound right to you guys because I would love to cook it until the bubbles are gone completely without having this guess work. I guess worst case scenario I waste one gram trying this out. Only asking so many questions because it seems like everyone has their own decarb method and they recommend to others just because it worked for them while disregarding if its actually a smart practice. Any input is still lordly
     
  14. #14 GroBuddy, Oct 25, 2021
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    People have different suggestions not disregarding if it's a smart practice or not. Because until you do something you dont know how it's actually done. Regardless how much you read or research until you do a run all that's irrelevant. Studying and researching will give you a good idea or base to go off of, of what to do, or what to expect. However once you attempt what you're trying to do several times you'll develop a style that works for you. Many factors can play a part in the final product and differentiating factors. (environment, oven type, etc.)between people may determine the smartest practice that wont be unearthed until you find your niche way of doing things.

    They also make decarb machines you may want to look into. Idk if it'll work on concentrates. Should since its the same method
     
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  15. Hopefully I can decarb tonight and will send photos. I think I'm going to use MCT oil and add egg yolk for lecithin since I am allergic to sunflower lecithin.
     
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  16. If you are not going to use this right away please skip the egg yolk. It will be quickly perishable if you add the egg yolk.
     
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  17. Another Tincture Thread - Try it, You'll like it

    This is how I do it. Don't use the oven if you are having problems judging it. I use a hot oil bath @ 240°F and then I can watch it and pull it out when it's finished. A few of the tiny bubbles along the side is okay, just a few.

    As for butter, your concentrate will work well with it no matter how much you use. In this case the butter is acting as a carrier and not as an extractor. The extraction has already been done.

    It is not going to work well by just adding it to your 40% alcohol source. Won't work. Like the butter, you can extract with it from bud but it takes a while and you can't get it very strong due to the high water content. That high water content is also going to keep your concentrate from dissolving easily. Oh, it will eventually dissolve if you haven't used too much. I would recommend making a high proof tincture first to get your concentrate dissolved in alcohol and then you can add that tincture to your JD or whatever. It should mix right in with no issues. That should be quicker and easier and allow you to adjust your potency. :)
     
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  18. There's always soy lecithin which is used more than sunflower....as long as you're not allergic to it, too. Not everybody benefits from lecithin. I don't use it. :mellow:
     
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  19. Thank you very much for the advice. I think for the sake of everyone here I need to test what happens if I put it in at 240-250 for an hour or longer. Because if the guy who I posted above is right then that should be just fine. After 24 hours of decarb at 240 degrees in the test that he cited, the wax only lost 0.4% of of its thc into cbn. Thanks for the help and hopefully I can provide some anecdotal data too.
     
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  20. Use regular Coconut oil. MCT oil is made from it and cost 5x as much. No gain for the money spent.
    Use store grade Lecithin.

    Decarb 240 F for 40 minutes

    5 grams of Kief or Hash or Concentrates
    1 tablespoon Coconut oil
    1/2 teaspoon Lecithin
    Heat 220 F for 20 minutes
    Done.

    Kief - hash 1 drop = 3mg
    Concentrates 1 drop = 5-6mg

    [​IMG] 160 Micron Dry Ice Kief.

    [​IMG] Stainless steel cat food dishes and Mr. Coffee mug heater.

    [​IMG] Triple batches shown.
    15 grams of Kief
    3 tablespoons oil
    2 teaspoons Lecithin

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    Same recipe I've used for 8 years to make my daily edible.
    Doesn't get any stronger per drop.

    BNW
     

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