Hey dudes, we have some of the most well read people on this forum so I figured I would ask you. Do you think the Bible will ever become outdated, or seem ostensibly outlandish? One of the main reasons I find it hard to connect with the Bible and the whole concept of deity is because it seems so focused on Earth and humans, and that animals and cells, or anything really is just there so that God could create the perfect combination of everything for life to exist. If we venture to space and find other forms of intelligent life that do not look like us, are they still in God's image? Or does the bible have things to say for that? Or am I just incredibly ignorant about Catholicism and the bible simply references all forms of life and I am only applying it to our own? I guess what I am trying to ask, is that if time and technological advancement will make the Bible, the seemingly strongest possible chance of religion that we have currently, become an outdated relic that we view as "what silly past civilizations believed in?"
But when we have other forms of life that look nothing like us, how are we both in God's image? The bible boasts an idea that we, humans, are the center of the world, while an overwhelming amount of all scientific evidence that we have shows that we are less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a fraction in the whole of everything. Is it really that easy for you to continue seeing this idea of all the bibles events happening on earth only, continuing to be believable when we colonize space and have telescopes that can take photos of solar systems billions of light years away?
Human is just a word. It is an idea. There would be no such difference between us and another form in the eyes of God. If we interpret the Bible from a "human" point of view, we miss the point. Religion often does this.
None of us can't even fathom how long 3½ thousand years really is, the bible is so old many just decide not to question it. Maybe eventually it will dwindle into obscurity who knows.
That is what I am saying, I don't know how you can say it is only that human is a manmade word, when its a word they use to describe life in the bible. The whole concept of "man" steps from us calling ourself men. The bible takes place on earth, there is not a single tale of life happening anywhere else in the universe. What if we find it trillions of light years away? Why would the bible not mention life elsewhere?
I'm saying that I don't know how the Bible could have ever not been considered ostensibly outlandish. However, if we don't interpret it as a history book we can gain other insight from it.
Nah I disagree. The bible was written by man and it is a human point of view. There was no alternative life forms considered, it was between God and man. That said I dont believe any of it.
Religion in general is dying as a direct result of humans getting smarter. That's why the anti science war is going on right now. evolution is a lie planted in schools hy people who hate God... LOL
Most of the message is, too. The part that isn't is basically saying "don't be a dick," and people still find a way to ignore it when they go about browbeating others who don't do things exactly like they do. I mean, you don't need a book to know you should treat people with respect, but even when you've got a book sometimes it's amazing how people use it to justify treating people with disrespect. ^ the great thing about science is it's true whether you believe it or not.
It was between man and man, there was no God involved. The God I'm referring to doesn't differentiate life forms. I don't either.
[quote name='A AnoesisOrange']It was between man and man, there was no God involved. The God I'm referring to doesn't differentiate life forms. It wasnt between man and man. It was a man believing he was writing gods will. So if anything it was between man and his own imagination and or ego. The interpretation of "god" in a christian bible may not be the God your looking for.
The problem with alot of christians today is that they substitute the truth of the word with their own perception. People formulate their own opinions about God from what they believe, been told, experienced, etc. That's just the way it goes(but don't leave out divine intervention). So I believe, it's actually the other way around, "false" christians are killing the bible so to speak, in the trade off, people lose badly. On the other hand, I've actually often wondered about life on other planets. I feel we have been gifted a very special planet from a loving God who in my opinion is an alien by definition. So I think it's possible we aren't "alone", but why I haven't got a clue.
Some of it is clearly influenced (or used to influence) specific time periods. Wives should submit to their husbands as they do to the Lord; 23 because the husband is head of the wife, just as the Messiah, as head of the Messianic Community, is himself the one who keeps the body safe. 24 Just as the Messianic Community submits to the Messiah, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. My favorite Exodus 22:18 - "Thou shall not suffer a witch to live." Deuteronomy 18:14 (NAS) "For those nations, which you will dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do so." Hmmm...who else does witchcraft on a weekly basis? Drinking the blood of christ, eating christ's body, reciting prayers in unison, weird rituals and superstitions regarding baptisms, funerals, marriages, c'mon exorcisms. edit: Some of it is timeless wisdom.
The ramblings of various Jewish sects over 2000 years old that were cut-and-pasted then mashed up and edited by a Roman council in order to keep soldiers behaving while they were far from the emperor's whip in the provinces? It's been outdated for a very long time. Why do you consider the bible of all things to be the strongest possibility of religion? You're aware how much of it's version of history is demonstrably incorrect?
hey man, i didnt mean that, i meant thought of as most possible by the mass population. i fucked up and worded that fucking poorly.
That's why we were provided with The Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Jesus Christ. A bunch of people though are ignorant enough to think a 22 y/o New York state, 6th grade educated, farm boy made the whole 500+ pages of text up. Just sit down one day, told his buddies to go to out all over the world to London, Rome, Venice, Jerusalem, Berlin, Munich, Naples, Florence, Vienna, Istanbul, Glasgow and any other towns with libraries and gather all the best written library books dealing with theology and world history so he could combine them and plagiarize the heck out them and to hurry up so he could get started on this book project. The only problem is, their ideas are filled with blanks because people have been trying to discover the origins of the Book of Mormon since the day after it was published and guess what, no evidence has been found that says it's not true. How can you say objectively that it is not true? That is no more objective than a member of the faith saying it is true. So get your own copy, go to the index and look up subjects that you want to know more about. I did that and learned alot. Still don't know though if Smith's friends got all those great books back on time or had to pay huge fines. The reality is Smith translated the book thru the power of God and did not just decide to write a magnificent fairy tale story. It was either translated thru the power of Heavenly Father or was translated thru the power of Satan, whose purpose it does not serve. Oh ya, almost forgot.He did all this with a feather pen and an ink well.