Why is weed illegal?

Discussion in 'Marijuana Legalization' started by USMC4/20, Nov 21, 2014.

  1. Hey everyone!!!

    As of right now, I'm just laying in bed just thinking. And something popped into my head. I can come up with absolutely 0 good reasons why weed should be illegal.

    Why is weed illegal??

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  2. There are lots of reasons
    Too many to go into any depth here, but check Randolph Hearst (publisher who owned massive paper tree farms), CIA drug running to fund black ops,
    Basically, follow the money
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  3. Because you touch yourself at night.
  4. #4 TinTizzy, Nov 21, 2014
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  5. That makes no sense, at all.

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  6. The History
    During Hoover's presidency, Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.
    Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. This then led these men to take an obscure Mexican slang word: ‘marihuana' and push it into the consciousness of America. The reason why they changed the name was because everyone knew of hemp and how amazing it was for the world. They would never be able to get away with banning hemp, so they used a name they knew no one would care about.
    Not long after this plan was set in place, the media began a blitz of  ‘yellow journalism' in the late 1920s and 1930s. Yellow journalism is essentially journalism where stories with catchy headlines are put into the mainstream media to get attention, yet these stories are not well researched or backed up. They are often used simply to create public opinion. Many newspapers were pumping stories emphasizing the horrors and dangers of marihuana. The “menace” of marihuana made headlines everywhere. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to losing morality and it wasn't long before public opinion started to shape.
    Next came several films like ‘Reefer Madness' (1936), ‘Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and ‘Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) which were all propaganda films designed by these industrialists to create an enemy out of marihuana. Reefer Madness was possibly the most interesting of the films as it depicted a man going crazy from smoking marijuana and then murdering his family with an ax. With all of these films, the goal was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed without objection.
    Have a look at the following regarding marihuana from ‘The Burning Question' aka Reefer Madness:
    • A violent narcotic
    • Acts of shocking violence
    • Incurable insanity
    • Soul-destroying effects
    • Under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax
    • More vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!
    Unlike most films with a simple ending, Reefer Madness ended with bold words on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN.
    In the 1930s, things were different than today. The population did not question things very much. They did not have tools like the Internet to quickly spread information and learn about things that were happening. Most built their opinions and beliefs off of the news via print or the radio. As a result and what was instructed by mainstream news, many people did tell their children about marihuana and thus shaping a strong public opinion about it.
    On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. Simply put, this committee is the only one that could introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. At the time, the Chairman of the Ways and Means was Robert Doughton who was a Dupont supporter. With vested interest, he insured that the bill would pass Congress.
    In an attempt to stop the bill from being passed, Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, attempted to testify on behalf of the American Medical Association. He mentioned that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp. Or at least a strain of it. Hemp and Marijuana are both varieties of Cannabis sativa, but this distinction was purposely not made well known to the public. Since the law was not so much focused on banning one or the other, both found their way into the ban. The AMA recognized cannabis/marihuana as a medicine found in numerous healing products sold and used for quite some time. The AMA like many other's did not realize that the deadly menace they had been reading about in the media was in fact hemp.
    In September of 1937, hemp prohibition began. Arguably the most useful plant known to man has become illegal to grow and use both in its non THC strain and THC strain called marihuana. To this day, this plant is still illegal to grow in the United States.
    To the public, Congress banned hemp because it was said to be a violent and dangerous drug. In reality, Hemp does nothing more than act as an amazing resource to virtually any industry and any product. As you can imagine, this was also a big reason for the ban of Hemp as it was a serious threat to many of the big industries out there. At the time it was mainly plastics, oil and paper.
    Here we are in modern day times and it is clear we are in some trouble when it comes to how we treat our environment. The resources and practices we use today for energy as well as product creation is very harmful and toxic to not just our planet but ourselves also. Despite the full awareness that exists surrounding hemp as an option to transform how things can be done on this planet, governments continue to have the plant banned and it is still often mistaken for marihuana due to how it looks.
  7. Marijuana is still illegal because of money and greed. It's illegal because of heartless selfish people who should be ashamed to call themselves human. I mean it cures cancer. What else is there to be said, if we could cure ourselves and cut the doc outta the picture they'd lose money that's the bottom line, a patient cured is a customer lost im fed up, anyone else, I mean ima smoke anyways, but I'd like to have the same rights as the cigarette puffing people breathing toxins into the air

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  8. And look up Harry j. Anslinger, I'd like to unload a full bladder on this pos grave graffiti the stone too

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  9. It makes perfect sense when you think outside the box
  10. I just had a conversation with a coworker that was an obvious anti-weed person and she had it in her head that Colorado's legalization has resulted in more people BECOMING homeless since the shelters where overloaded.  It is clear that many people will listen to whatever propaganda that is told to them and run with it without question.  I tend to take any news I hear with a grain of salt as CNN and Fox BOTH steer people in the directions of whatever agenda they are pushing.  That being said I did look up Homeless shelters in Colorado and in fact they are overloaded and have had additional pressure from homeless people after legalization.  Truth is many are youths that are coming to smoke pot and have little interest in taking care of themselves.  Her news feed told her that Colorado pot is causing the local people to become homeless and I really found that hard to believe.  Tons of jobs are being created and many are good paying jobs, so I found the connection she was making a bit unbelievable,  I won't say none are caused but the reality is that many of the new homeless are moving there instead.
    We are going up against so many closed minded people that can't think for themselves and see the world through the idiot box.  Try to explain your point and they don't care to listen.  Thankfully they are now in the minority, but there is a long long road to get this fixed.  
    Reefer Madness indeed.
  11. Let's not worry about the why, but take a look at the "what would"
    If legalized fully, taken off DEA schedules and regulated similarly to alcohol and beer.  This is most likely what would unfold.
    Immediate 1 Year impact:  Black market collapses - political money dries up - growing kicks off as heavy users seek to source themselves.
    1-3 Years after legalization: A minor 15% increase in individuals trying weed.  No substantial market expansion.  2-4 Bil.
    3-5 Years after legalization: A slowly rising trend, about 3% of the population now prefer marijuana over alcohol.  Hemp seeds have become wide spread and agricultural businesses are beginning to form across the nation.  Cancer patients are beginning to try concentrated hemp oils and finding they work.
    5-10 Years after legalization:  Big Pharma, losing ground in medication across all classes are restructuring their business models but the future seems uncertain.  A whopping 20% increase in Americans now prefer marijuana over alcohol, the booze industry takes a nose dive.  Hemp industrial concerns are now producing long lasting clothing, non-simple sugar flours, essential healthy cooking oils, self-insulating concrete, plastics are beginning to be engineered using hemp fibers and oils, biodiesel fuels made from hemp are being researched and refined.  Impact across every major sector, save technology, is being affected by the explosion in hemp production and medical/recreational marijuana use. 
    Hemp would tear a new asshole in so many industries, they will find a way to control it before they "give it back" to us.
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  12. Truth.

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  13. This is such a vast topic, most of of us could give you information until federal legalization occurs. In a nutshell: fear, money, power. It's an interesting topic though, I've done several academic papers related to this.
  14. It took a Republican to free the slaves and a Democrat to enslave the weed. But who really cares about facts?
  15. This is why it's illegal, people say retarded things like "weed cures cancer maaaan"

    Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about if you think that we don't do everything we can to help the kids (St Jude's)

    There is no one that's interested in lobbying for marijuana legalization it's not a conspiracy, put your tin foil hat down bro
  16. Weed makes everything so happy that's why :)
  17. Very different Republicans and Democrats back in those days. Republicans use to be the liberal ones and the Democrats were the KKK. Things shift and change.
  18. "How many murders, suicides, robberies, criminal assaults, holdups, burglaries and deeds of maniacal insanity it causes each year, especially among the young, can only be conjectured...No one knows, when he places a marijuana cigarette to his lips, whether he will become a joyous reveller in a musical heaven, a mad insensate, a calm philosopher, or a murderer...And his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim."
    ~ Harry J. Anslinger, 1937
    The history,
    will only repeat itself.
    It will never be legalized federally because there is too much money involved. And the government cant tell you that something is
    • A violent narcotic
    • Acts of shocking violence
    • Incurable insanity
    • Soul-destroying effects
    • Under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax
    • More vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana!
    And then come out and say its perfectly safe.. I mean people might start to lose trust in the government!!
    Also look up the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Guardia_Committee
    And then from the Nixon era... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Commission_on_Marihuana_and_Drug_Abuse
    Seems like everyone except the US government says its safe. And thats because only the US government has a vested interest in its prohibition.

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