WHY do you hate Lil' Wayne?

Discussion in 'Music genres, Bands and Artists' started by Jawbreaker Jake, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. Oh how could I not, jeez what the fuck was I thinkin'!
     
  2. Aesop Rock is dope. But there are far better rappers out there. Trust.

    Immortal Technique for one. And Big L also goes hard in his delivery. They both have punches that'll knock even Ali out.

    I.T- Industrial Revolution

    The bling-bling era was cute but it's about to be done
    I leave ya full of clipse like the moon blocking the sun
    my metaphors are dirty like herpes but harder to catch
    like an escape tunnel in prison I started from scratch

    and now these parasites wanna procenna my asscap
    trying to control perspective like an acid flashback
    but here's a quotable for every single record exec
    get your fucking hands out my pocket ***** like Malcolm X
    but this ain't a movie, I'm not a fan or a groupie
    and I'm not that type of cat, you can afford to miss if you shoot me
    curse to heavens and laugh when the sky electrocutes me
    Immortal Technique stuck in your thoughts darkening dreams
    no ones as good as good as me, they just got better marketing schemes

    I leave ya to your own destruction like sparking a fiend
    cuz you got jealousy in ya voice like star scream

    and that's the primary reason that I hate ya faggots
    I've been nice since *****z got killed over 8-ball jackets
    and Reebok Pumps that didn't do shit for the sneaker
    I'm a heat-seaker with features that'll reach through the speaker
    and murder counter revolutionaries personally
    break a thermometer and force feed his kids mercury
    ANR's tribe jerking me thinking they call shots
    offered me a deal and a blanket full of small pocks
    your all getting shot, you little fucking treacherous bitches

    I could post more, but you get the point.


    Big L- '97 free w/ Jayz

    Yo, check it
    Yo, I got slugs for snitches
    No love for bitches
    Puttin thugs in ditches
    When my trigger finger itches
    I got a rep that make police jet
    Known to get a priest wet
    I never beg for pussy like Keith Sweat

    Is Big L slow? Hell no
    Bitches get fucked on the roof when I ain't got no hotel dough
    I'm known for yoking jacks
    And beatin them with smoking gats
    Leavin token blacks with broken backs and open caps
    So with that bullshit, step to the rear son
    The last thing you want with Big L is a fair one
    Cause in a street brawl, I strike men like lightning
    You see what happened in my last fight friend?
    Aight then

    I beat kids with lead pipes
    I leave a trail of dead mic's
    Where I'm from, *****z jewels get ran like red lights
    Old folks get mugged and raided
    Crimes are drug related
    And we live by the street rules that thugs created
    Clowns get smoked about a thousand volts
    For selling pounds of coke
    Front in this town and get a tech stuck down your throat
    I'm tellin you shit is about to get drastic soon
    I'm quick to blast a goon
    And break a motherfucker like a plastic spoon
    I got the looks that make your hotty stare
    I keep a shotty near
    It's the ***** with notty hair who Gotti fear
    Tracks I'm know to roast
    Until the microphone is ghost
    Props I own the most
    I'm leaving *****z comatose
    Front and get your brain pinched
    Big L will have your whole gang lynched
    I started smoking dust and been insane since
    This rap shit was a great gift
    The other night some snake riffed
    And got a hot lead face lift
    All through high school I had braids
    I kept mad blades
    Stabbing teachers to death that gave me bad grades
    I cook the mic like a beef steak
    Cause my techniques great
    And I'm the ***** police hate in each state
    Cause I'm the neighborhood lamper
    Punk brother vamper
    Fuck around you'll find my silk boxers in your mother's hamper
    Cops drop when my glock makes a pow sound
    I'm from a whyle town
    You know my style clown, so bow down

    And this was just a free, by Big L. He was lyrical demon.

    To name off the top of my head some other cats that's strictly nice with the metaphors and similes; Canibus, RZA, Mobb Deep, Lupe, Edo G, Mos Def..

    I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Lil Wayne doesn't make music for poor minorities anymore --he can't relate to the streets. His music is directed towards rich white girls, because they're the ones buying his music. Would I cop his CD? Never. Bootleg it? Possibly.

    This isn't about being lyrically fit and pleasing your eardrums, it's all a marketing scheme to give the record companies fatter pockets. If any of you actually knew what went behind the scenes of the music industry, you'd understand Lil Wayne is a mere puppet. Along with Gucci, Drake, and whomever else mainstream media dishes out to be "nice" rappers.
     

  3. Okay, so Hip Hop. I can't believe anyone here can say Jay-Z is not a good rapper... that's absurd. He is sick.

    Wayne can intertwine metaphors like a true artist, and can spit them with a good flow too.

    "she love my style, but thats expected
    she comin back to you, the chance is anorexic"

    Just creative lines, there are so many like this (this isn't one of the best but it's what I'm listening to right now).

    BTW I saw Lupe live.. Common opened for him and ended with the sickest freestyle I've heard.... then Lupe tried to freestyle and it was AWFUL.
     
  4. Sorry but i got to point this put. you said top five then named ten rappers.





















    Oh yeah and lil wayne sucks:D
     

  5. sorry but that wayne line is terrible. It doesn't even rhyme first of all, and it's a retarded metaphor that any idiot could think of sitting on his couch.
     
  6. i hate the human being lil wayne, and i hate lil waynes ego.

    his FLOW though is damn near untouchable. i know these underground rappers got better lyrics then wayne but flow is something that cannot be taught, wayne has that and crazy punchlines going for him.
     
  7. No. Wayne doesn't make hip hop. He makes hip-pop. Club pop.
     
  8. I keep seeing people mention waynes flow. Why? Most of the time he either is simply talking over beats, the other half he's using autotune.

    What you're hearing isn't flow, he just mumbles so much that his whimpering sounds like one long-ass word.
     
  9. naw man, fuck mumbling wayne and fuck auto-tune.

    hes got flow
     
  10. Well that explainz why I can never understand him, thankz buddy
     
  11. #71 Fresh Error, Feb 6, 2010
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    dude fuck wayne's "flow" if you can even call it that. the nerdiest kid in the world with any sense of beat and rhythm could pick up a mic, and karaoke waynes lyrics with the same delivery he does (maybe not with that lame ass wheezy annoying voice.. but still the same delivery)

    i'll admit from time to time he has a pretty clever line but dude.. his shit just sounds fucking horrible. i like some shit i can groove too.. nod my head and shit.. lil wayne's music just makes me want to punch in the stereo system.

    and always with that clubbin drummin... i hate that shit.
     
  12. if you know a song by heart then you can go over it the same way as the dude who did no matter how hard their flow is
     
  13. where do people originally get the idea that wayne is "the best rapper ever"? It's all too confusing. I have such a hard time comprehending how ANYONE is fond of this ape whatsoever. He sounds like a dying animal, autotune makes it oh so much worse, and his rhymes are cocky, unappealing and just plain fucking stupid.

    the only reason the majority of the people that listen to him do listen to him is because of the beats that other people make for him. And if loud bass didn't exist, neither would the mainstream hiphop industry.
     
  14. But yea I dont like lil waynes newer work, I really like carter 1 and 2 I'm sad he got commercial. But I think alot of people who say the hate lil wayne have never listed to C1 or C2 so unless you listen to both you cant say i hate lil wayne. Now i'm not saying weezy is some god or anything and im not gonna hop on his dick like alot of people. But I think yall need to stop sippin that haterade shit even if you dont like his music you gotta respect the man he came up from nothing to something. He is living the life, hes a great propont of weed and in general seems like hed be a cool guy to smoke with. How can yall hate another stoner? You can dislike lil wayne thats fine, but hating the man? cmon dont be playa-haters.:smoke:

    I was reading rolling stone today and apparently wanye quit syrup in may 09.
     
  15. it has nothing to do with knowing it by heart. the artists are the ones who originally invent their flow sound .. copying them isn't quite the same shit yo. although nonetheless waynes style is easier to copy than .. lets say Eminem's.. as long as we're talking mainstream artists
     
  16. i want to say i agree with you but i dont know what youre talking about, break it down for me

    and ems flow is harder to copy because he raps faster, that doesnt necessary mean his flow is better. i like more laid back shit where it sounds like its just streams out him without having to sound like hes having force the words out. you know what im sayin
     
  17. ^ i guess it's all preference homie. i cant really explain what i mean any better than i did before i dont think (at least not right now, i be drunk)
    but wayne's flow has never once gripped/grabbed me.. so to speak.
     
  18. for fuckin real.

    i'm sick of hearing about how good lil wayne's flow is. it's not good at all. it's garbage. he mumbles, as ksmith pointed out, and the pitch in his voice (when he isn't using auto tune) changes so god damn much it's ridiculous. his voice sounds like complete shit.

    wayne isn't a lyrical genius either, and anybody who says he is needs to be sodomized with a rusty mace. guys like Big Pun, Big L, 2Pac and Biggie are rollin in their graves when some ignorant person says that.

    and his rhymes... well anybody with half a brain knows his rhymes are wack. i like it when he uses the same word three or four times cause he can't think of anything else to use.



    i challenge any wayne fan to dispute that. even though it's like talking to a brick wall with the dick riders
     
  19. I believe what Upfromtheskies is referring too is the simplicity of Wayne's "frees"/"writtens". I've yet to dispute whether those are his to begin with, because I've heard that he has a ghostwriter now.

    Lil Wayne doesn't have a complex delivery, it's pretty elementary when you break it down. For instance, his "A Milli" track, that beat is fireee, but his delivery leaves me stumped:

    "A Millionaire,
    I'm a young money Millionaire, tougher than Nigerian hair,
    My criteria compared to your career just isn't fair,
    I'm a venereal disease like a minstrel bleed,
    through the pencil and leak on the sheet of the tablet in my mind,
    Cuz I don't write shit cuz I aint got time,
    Cuz my seconds, minutes, hours go to the almighty dollar,
    And the almighty power of dat chit cha cha chopper,
    Sister, Brother, Son, Daughter, Father motha f**k a copper,
    Got da maserati dancin on the bridge pussy poppin,
    Tell the coppers..hahahaha you cant catch em, you cant stop em,
    I go by dem goon rules
    if you cant beat em then you pop em,
    You cant man em then you mop em,
    You cant stand em then you drop em,
    You pop em cuz we pop em like Orville Redenbacher,
    Young money"

    His first few bars, kind of hot; I won't hate. But then as you listen further, his rhyme scheme just leaves you a bit stumped. And not in a "I just got mind-fucked" kind of way.. it's more like, "whtf is this dude smoking?" kind of bizarre feeling; it's garbage.

    I believe people are more fooled by his arrogance, than they are his actual lyrics. He's a performer, and that's all he really is.

    As for Em, I used to like him --a lot actually. Now.. I can't say, I haven't bothered to listen to his new stuff.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdz3StIpErw]YouTube - eminem ft jay z - renegades RARE MUSIC[/ame]

    Em's verse
    "Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
    I ain't no politician but I'll kick it with 'em a minute
    Cause see they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
    But if it don't, then y'all'll swallow the truth grin and bear it
    Now who's these king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
    Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
    usin his music to steer it sharin his views in his marriage
    But there's a huge interference - they're sayin you shouldn't hear it
    Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
    Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just cherish
    But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in America
    as a motherfuckin drug addict - like you didn't experiment?
    Now now, that's when you start to stare at who's in the mirror
    and see yourself as a kid again, and you get embarrased
    And I got nothin to do but make you look stupid as parents
    You fuckin do-gooders - too bad you couldn't do good at marriage!
    (Ha ha!) And do you have any clue what I had to do to get here I don't
    think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears glued to the stereo
    Cause here we go - he's {*Jigga joint Jigga-chk-Jigga*}
    And I'm the sinister, Mr. Kiss-My-Ass it's just the"

    :eek: Em basically kill'd Jay on his own track. Hahaaa... lame. :D
     
  20. lol it's pretty hard to kill a good Em verse i gotta admit... taking delivery and flow-sound and rhymeschemes into account

    it's all about the oldschool Em:
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRbEgoTqQs]YouTube - Eminem - Infinite[/ame]
     

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