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Whitehouse to propose a bill that could kick the BOR in the nuts

Discussion in 'General' started by youngandstupid, Aug 2, 2006.

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  1. #1 youngandstupid, Aug 2, 2006
    Here's the link http://www.civilrights.org/issues/cj/details.cfm?id=45974
    and here's a brief summary of what it could mean (not mine)

    To add a bit of weight to the situation. From Americablog: (below):

    1. According to the Washington Post, "the plan, which would replace a military trial system ruled illegal by the Supreme Court in June, would also allow the secretary of defense to add crimes at will to those under the military court's jurisdiction." If that is correct, then the federal government could add ANY crime to the list, ANY crime. So any American suspected of ANYTHING could be picked up and sent to a military court and never heard from again because, oh yeah guess what, the new legislation says you basically get a Soviet gulag trial:

    Under the proposed procedures, defendants would lack rights to confront accusers, exclude hearsay accusations, or bar evidence obtained through rough or coercive interrogations. They would not be guaranteed a public or speedy trial and would lack the right to choose their military counsel, who in turn would not be guaranteed equal access to evidence held by prosecutors. Detainees would also not be guaranteed the right to be present at their own trials, if their absence is deemed necessary to protect national security or individuals.

    2. The part that could easily cover reporters, and political dissidents:

    The military lawyers nonetheless supported extending the jurisdiction of the commissions to cover those accused of joining or associating with terrorist groups engaged in anti-U.S. hostilities, and of committing or aiding hostile acts by such groups, whether or not they are part of al-Qaeda, two U.S. officials said.

    Aiding hostile acts? Who would that be? Well, according to the White House's own words over the past 5 years, every one of us who speaks out against the war, every newspaper who publishes articles about Bush's violating the law in his over-execution of the war on terror, is "aiding" the enemy. Remember, these are the White House's own words, folks. And now they want legislation that says that those of who "aid" the enemy can be basically tried in abstentia and never heard from again.
     
  2. #2 TheHempress, Aug 3, 2006
    :eek:
    Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to be keeping an eye on this.
     
  3. #3 plumface_2002, Aug 3, 2006
    man this countrys going down so fast its not even funny. I can't wait till we get our shit nuked.
     
  4. #4 3To1ker1, Aug 3, 2006
    fucking gay man
    i hate hearing shit like dis
     
  5. #5 Spanishfly, Aug 3, 2006
    And they still call it the land of the free?? Fucking laugh. Glad I don´t live there.
     
  6. #6 syntax13, Aug 3, 2006
    Thats why as soon as I can I'm getting the fuck out of here.
     
  7. #7 youngandstupid, Aug 3, 2006
    As some farker put it, democracy/freedom is like energy, it can't be created or destroyed, so we have to take the democracy/freedom we have ing the US and transfer it to Iraq, Afgahnistan, ect.
     
  8. #8 Heinous Anus, Aug 3, 2006
    +rep for the info. Thank God I'm planning on getting out of here as soon as possible.
     
  9. #9 xXMelkorXx, Aug 3, 2006
    There is no way our Congress will let this happen. If the Bill goes through the House and the Senate. We must take up arms. WE MUST!!!
     
  10. #10 Maitereya, Aug 3, 2006
    is there any cool cities in europe where i can flee to, like new age spiritual type cities? i swear as soon as i get 300$ im buying a ticket outa here.
     
  11. #11 flower_child, Aug 3, 2006
    Guys, remember those camps Rasta Man posted about?

    I think this is what they're for. I wish he were here to point us to that article. I'll try to find it.

    If I remember the article well, this ties in exactly with the purpose of those camps.
     
  12. #12 Rasta_Man, Aug 3, 2006
    This is a vital chapter in the birth of the American police state.

    Things are going to get very very bad in north america.

    "Where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance cohersing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who is to blame? Certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid, who wouldn't be? War? Terror? Disease? There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to [the government]"
    ~ V for Vendetta
     
  13. #13 naku06, Aug 3, 2006
    fuck this, like i said yesterday. here i come denmark!
     
  14. #14 p_squared342000, Aug 3, 2006
    Rasta, got a room for rent up in Toronto? I see u got archany for sale, but how bout a room?
     
  15. #15 Rasta_Man, Aug 3, 2006
    Not me, i'll be one of the crazy AK-weilding, ski-mask wearing anarchists.
     
  16. #16 Rasta_Man, Aug 3, 2006
    Don't bother dude, it will quickly catching up here.

    It's already beggining, crime is being, they're cracking down on 'terrorists'.

    Just pre-text for removing our freedoms.

    Canadians are notorious for being very socially liberal though, so I'm just hoping we have the resolve and to stand up for what we believe in before it's too late.
     
  17. #17 naku06, Aug 3, 2006
    ..next thing i was going to ask, hows your neighbor hood rasta?

    edit:nah fuck that too!
     
  18. #18 p_squared342000, Aug 3, 2006

    eehhh... Hello whores in Amsterdam
     
  19. #19 naku06, Aug 3, 2006
    thats the dream ive had sense...eh...the age of 15.
     
  20. #20 Rasta_Man, Aug 3, 2006
    Yup, those ladies are clean AND unionized.

    I like to know my prosptitute has a good dental plan.
     
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