When are people goin to understand?

Discussion in 'Pandora's Box' started by jdm_420, Aug 1, 2012.

  1. There will NEVER be any peace.

    Not as long as there are humans - because not all humans think alike or share the same view , humans are greedy an most will only look out for themselves.

    Since the beginning of time and human history there has always been war, killings, and violence. Name me 1 point in our past where there was peace? We are a species of war and violence- just like animals in the wild kill and eat each other- we humans do also (just in a different way). And we will always be this way.

    America has turned into a bunch of pussy metrosexual men who are now taught to run and hide, lay down and die,- not like the olden days where there were actual men who were taught to protect what's their and Stand your ground- this is no longer a nation of studs- but hippie ass metrosexual men.

    Maby it's time to bring the cowboys back.
     
  2. Morning jdm,
    Humans are a war like species and as such we should be celebrating that.

    That trend of pussy metrosexual men started in the sixties with my generation, the left & hollywood & now permeates the country.
    Then run & hide syndrome is never more evident than in the order of Dept. of Homeland Secuity Janet Napolitiano telling border agents if they see armed cartel members the agents should run & hide instead of stand their ground. Amazing. Heres a link.
    Napolitano in Texas; Border agents told run and hide from armed illegal aliens - National Law Enforcement | Examiner.com

    Cheers:D
     

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    LOL yeah that's why we have soldiers all over the world. :rolleyes:


    And yeah no shit we're violent. So are animals. Who gives a shit. How high are you?
     
  4. Just as you said people have different views, I believe you're wrong.

    And I can name many times where there was peace; in a region. There isnt always fighting 24/7 in certain nations/countries. And its very easy to compare the violent habits of humans to animals, although we kill and eat and are violent for completely different reasons than animals. I think humans may at one point realize they are pointlessly cutting at each other's throats. It won't be an obvious turning point where everyone celebrates "world peace", but I believe it will happen because there are always those who are more interested in helping than fighting.

    Also, if you think cowboys would help since you don't like metrosexual pussies, you have another thing coming. . .
     
  5. I think religion will solve this. :rolleyes:
     
  6. I think ayahuasca will solve this
     
  7. #7 Turin, Aug 1, 2012
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    I see that you're old, but it seems you and jdm need to grow up a little. Just because someone wants world peace and love for everyone doesn't make them a "pussy." Doesn't make anyone a women's reproductive organ if they don't want to hurt another. I can understand it's not right to run and hide, but sometimes there are other ways of dealing with some situations and sometimes you have to stand your ground.
     
  8. I believe you're referring to yuppies. These are the people who never really believed in peaceful ways. They were never a part of the revolution. I'm curious why you believe that they have so much influence.


    met-ro-sex-u-al (noun)

    1. a heterosexual usually urban male who pays much attention to his personal appearance and who cultivates an upscale life style.

    http://dicrionary.reference.com/browse/metrosexual?s=t
     
  9. I apologize and should clarify

    - I didn't mean every single man is a "pussy" - and let me take that word back and replace it with "cowards", but I mean that nowadays its kool and "looked up" upon to run and hide, to let people step on you- I mean shit nowadays you hear about people gettin Bullied and then killin themselves or being all traumatized, what happened to the good ol days where you stand up for yourself and fight the goddamn bully?
    To be fair it not completely Americans fault- nowadays the government doesn't even allow you the right to defend yourself (Like california) where you can't even shoot a burgler in your house; they want you to run and retreat. Schools being all soft with kids teaching them to be weenies and depend on others to protect them, not even allowing them to defend themselves against the bullies without gettin into as much trouble. And as 1badbruce said tellin homeland security to run and hide.

    - and I didn't mean that your a "pussy" for wanting peace or whatnot, there's nothing wrong with preaching peace an nonviolence, not saying you should go around starting fights ,but at least stand up for your damn selfs when the time arrises. It is now glorified to run and cower.

    Look at the aurora shooting- shitload of people vs 1 person (with horrible field of vision cuz of gas mask, heavy clothing, and his weapon even jammed) yet no one even tried tackling the guy from behind- NO- they pull out their fucking cell phones and start recording, then proceed to lay down and die- I'm sorry I don't meant to offend victims as I'm sure it was a terrifying ordeal, but come on! No one did a single god damn thing an let him just waltz out the theatre. I can't say what I would have exactly done in the same situation but I can tell you that I got a "survival switch" in me , and when it's switched on Iam a different person (I'm not trying to be an Internet commando , just speaking of past events I've gone thru).
    Wasn't there a dude that straight left his family in the theatre when the bullets started flying?
     

  10. You made a good point, violence is here to stay....BUT

    The men from the past didn't protect what was theirs they STOLE it, they enslaved others and were hypocritical in every way. You can try to take it backwards but many will be there to stand ground on moving forward, so good luck.
     
  11. #11 1badbruce, Aug 2, 2012
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    If 63 is considered old then so be it.
    You misseed my point, I wasn't talking about peaceful & loving people. I was talking about people turning their cheek as a solution every time they get hit. Nowadays that's what kids are taught and what's expected of them as adults.
    As for world peace, I'd love to see it. But it's not going to happen with humans. In all of recorded has there every been but a few very short periods of time when we've had no wars on earth.
    The appeasers in this country, political, religous or otherwise, who continue to bend over are not going to solve anything. They're just going to continue to be bent over.
    You said it yourself, somtines you have to stand your ground & that's what I was talking about.
    As for growing up crack, I have that 63 years experience behind me. When I was young it was all about peace & love. But for more than 40 years as an adult seeing how the world works a peace & love approach works only if everyone follows suit.
    Until that time I'll bitterly cling to my guns & stand my ground ( BTW that was humor).

    Doesn't make anyone a women's reproductive organ if they don't want to hurt another
    Do you have to take pills to be that politically correct?
    Cheers:D
     
  12. Not sure about the guy leaving his family but to be honest I believe there we're three guys there that threw themselves on their girlfriends to protect them.
    If there was one man or woman there with a pocket gun & a set of balls this would have never gone as far as it did.
    I understood what you were trying to say fully. IDK maybe it's the age difference or that we were raised differently as to why they don't get it.
    Cheers:D
     
  13. A 63 year old random joe blow

    or

    Ghandi

    I think I will consider the latter's ridiculous turn the cheek hippie philosophy. If offense was the best defense my Pats would have won the SB.
     
  14. Never be peace? If you're looking for a world where everything would be ideal to ones own views of peace, that's never going to happen.

    But peace of mind is always possible for each individual.

    I'm not really sure how pussy men got tied up in your argument, but as long as you're looking to other people.. you'll never find your own peace.
     
  15. what the fuck was the hippie part for?
     
  16. #16 Turin, Aug 2, 2012
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    "As for world peace, I'd love to see it. But it's not going to happen with humans."

    No you don't.. Other wise you wouldn't say it's not going to happen. If you'd love to see it, maybe you would actually work towards it in some way other than preaching that it's impossible.

    "But for more than 40 years as an adult seeing how the world works a peace & love approach works only if everyone follows suit."

    Yes, and you have to start with yourself.

    "Do you have to take pills to be that politically correct?"
    Do you have to take pills to take a joke? ;)

    "You said it yourself, sometimes you have to stand your ground & that's what I was talking about."

    Sometimes. Sometimes you just have to turn your cheek and be less violent, because stooping to their level isn't always the best option. Like how you shouldn't fight most bullies.

    By the way, sorry for initially missing you're point.
     
  17. Ok, I do agree with you on the matter that the human species are a war loving creatures. However I believe if we as a species would be more similar, and less restricted by barriers. Think of Babylon, we could achieve greatness if we all came together
     

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