This is my experimental plant with bagseed ive been using while i get my nutes right, proper soil, lights, etc. Ive got cfls going. Is this nute burn, heat stress from lights, or overwatering?
Symptom - what element is needed - how to fix problem Larger leaves turning yellow smaller leaves still green -Nitrogen deficiency - add nitrate of soda or organic fertilizer. Older leaves will curl at edges, turn dark, possibly with a purple cast -Phosphorus deficiency - add commercial phosphate. Mature leaves develop a yellowish wast to least veinal areas -Magnesium deficiency - Add commercial fertilizer with a magnesium content. Mature leaves turn yellow and then become spotted with edge areas turning dark grey -Potassium deficiency - add marinate of potash. Cracked stems, no healthy support tissue -Boron deficiency - add any plant food containing Boron. Small wrinkled leaves with yellowish vein systems -Zinc deficiency - add commercial plant food containing zinc. Young leaves become deformed, possibly yellowing -Molybdenum deficiency - Use any plant food with a bit of molybdenum in it. This last one looks like something you are dealing with.... hopefully this helps in the future as well....
nute burn...because MJ doesnt need nutes this early in its life, and it doesnt look like any deficincy
She or he was beyond repair. I fed her, I flushed her, I transplanted her, and in the end, it was all too much. Like i said, it was bagseed, but lets hope that my trila and error on this one will help endure a long a vigorous life for my new babies, Nirvana Papaya
The lesson here -leave them alone! Seeds are self contained- put them in good soil, give a little light, air and water, and don't worry about them too much.
Its still alive,,althouhg the bottom leaves dies and the remaining top leaves are somewhat small, they are beginnning to perk up and continue to grow, ill keep ya posted if it makes it thru the week, Woiuldnt it be a trip
No more nutes, BubbleBoy!!! You're loving her too death. Just a small drink of tap water a couple times a week for a couple weeks and you should be back to square one. As the man said, the seed is a self-contained unit, replete with food for a couple'o'three weeks. When you DO begin to fertilize again, use well under half what the directions call for. You can do this for some time. I have yet to come across directions, on ANY brand of nutrient, that wasn't telling you to use twice what you should be using. Of course, they're tryin' to sell nutes...at 50 bucks a gallon. Once they gain some size, you can up the strength a bit, but I have never known a successful grower who used a full dose of every nute and additive s/he took advantage of. That simply sends the EC too high. You stick to an EC of LESS THAN 2.3, at full strength on grown plants, and you'll be alot better off. Truly, you will learn to "listen" to your plants. After a few grows, they will kinda'-sorta "talk" to you. And always remember, LESS IS BETTER, when plants are being fed.It is damned near impossible to underfeed a plant (especially in dirt), but it sure as heck is simple to burn them suckers. In fact, most folks get so pumped and jazzed at new grows that they cook 'em with nutrients (Nitrogen, generally), so don't feel bad. You'd be the exception if you didn't, so, don't beat yourself up. And keep us up to date with the progress, perhaps with a few pics? Good Luck, My Bubble Buddy!!! Elrod
Your absolutely right. As I said, as a novice, this plant has sadly been my giunny pig. My nirvana papays seem to bee taking off though in just the ocean forest organic soil. I prmise im not going to give then nutes for a few weeks. I also bought a little device to tell me when plants are dry . I will try to keep them on watering schdle, but until i can tell when they are thirsty just by looking, I will use the device
Ive been told and read to let plain old tapwater sit out for a few days as Ive been doing. Can anyone explain the science of that.
and remember, you'd be the exception (1 in a million) if you DIDN'T overfeed them, bb, so don't feel bad. they will still love you back, after you nurse them back to health. they'll be beholdin' to ya' after you make them well, and you'll be rewarded handsomely. you, sir, are a fine human being!! elrod kadiddlehopper by the way, wanted to edit and ask T-girl if that guy in the avatar is the feller that sings for rush? looks kinda' like him, 'cept not near as ugly...but man can he sing and play guitar.
Your soil is MG! you dont need any nutrients for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG! TIME Your feeding a seedling nutrients... and its already in a Super rich soil with nutrients, thats your problem... what you ahve in the soil now is more than enough to keep it healthy until flowering stage, why feed it.??? its like giving your new born baby whiskey to drink... sTop feeding it nutrients and just water it.
Thank You for your wonderful suggestion, but let me tell you, im not using miracle grow. I am using fox farm ocean forest organic with a little perlite. I now know, but also, in case u havent read my other post, this has been my "experiemntal bagseed plant" . I will soon post pics of my thriving Nirvana Papayas!!! I'm insulted at the notion that im using MG
leaves appear tiny or shrunked but new sprouts are slowly growing. I wonder if in addittion to the trama of nute burn, transplant, and flushing with water, this is now reactin of overwatering. I oulled the dying leaves off bottom stem and the tops ones are all green but look shrivelled
Well, as of now, im using a thermomiter type moisture device I stick in soil. IM using half gallon milk jugs. No specific regimine yet, i have a spray bottle that ive been sprayin the surface with twice a day and maybe a bigger wattering ever couple days. IM trying to learn how to tell when the babies are thirsty. Also, since they are all between 3days to 2 weeks old (papaya) ive watered the soil heavily when i planted the seed. I figured that with the sprays and the moisture device are good . The bagseed that is in my pics in this post I flushed so im pretty sure i over watered and im not going to water for a few days
The bagseed is still trucking but very stunted and small leaves. This is on eof my Nirvana Papayas thats barely 2 weeks old!!! Look how healthy she looks. Let me kow if u have any suggestions including when i should transplant her (hopefully her) and when to start using fox farm big bloom and grow big.
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