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What the hell happened to my Plants???

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Outdoors' started by guest87784949494, Aug 29, 2017.

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  1. #1 guest87784949494, Aug 29, 2017
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  2. #2 Mahmo, Aug 29, 2017
    Looks like Leaf miners and possibly spider mites.
     
  3. #3 guest87784949494, Aug 29, 2017
    Ok what draws you to that conclusion, especially regarding Snyder mites?


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  4. #4 guest87784949494, Aug 29, 2017
    Ok what draws you to that conclusion, especially regarding Snyder mites?


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  5. #5 guest87784949494, Aug 29, 2017
    Sorry for the double post.
    I haven't seen any webbing or anything like that


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  6. #6 Mahmo, Aug 29, 2017
    There doesn't have to webbing if it is a new infestation. I'm looking at the spots on the leaf in your bottom photo. Indicative of possible spider mites but you also definitely have Leaf Miners. Do you have Jewelers Loupe or magnifying glass? Turn the leaf over and look on the bottom. The photo above is Leaf Miners that cause the brown lines and it also look like a grasshopper or similar has been munching on your leaves. It sucks.. I have been dealing with similar issues. You really have to be proactive with pest control ahead of time to prevent those little bugger from messing with your flowers. Good Luck.
     
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  7. #7 guest87784949494, Aug 29, 2017
    So those brown spots and not lines that just appear that way in the photo, the are actually tons of cluster bites, I just looked under a scope as it's definitely thrips, not miners. Not seeing any spider mites either.
    But what I am really concerned about it the wilted, twisted, leaves I circuled in most of the pictures. No idea what's causing that


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  11. #11 The Widow White, Aug 29, 2017
    Are the dying leaves on old growth? If so, it's likely dying off due to shade of growth above. If it's happening on new growth, you have an issue. TWW
     
  12. #12 guest87784949494, Aug 29, 2017
    Mainly old growth, and I wouldn't say new growth, but growth that's 3/4ths the way up the plant a few new buds, it's not just old leaves dying this happened all of a sudden all at once. I was hoping it was just a little nute burn from the bloom nutes. =[


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  13. #13 Bulldog11, Aug 29, 2017
    What is the EC of your soil? Might be burning due to high EC. Also leaf curl like that shows up when PH swings.
     
  14. #14 sweettrees, Aug 29, 2017
    Spray vinegar and water mix under leaves only until major bud time. Those bugs look nasty. Or try lemon juice and water mix. Try these before chemical sprays.

    I wouldnt worry bout the browning leaves at the bottom. They are the first to go due to many reasons. Especially in flower mode.

    Just leaving my 2 cents. Take it or leave it. Less stress more bud production. So i would say fix this problem asap
     
  15. #15 AZGREENery, Aug 29, 2017
    Definitely mites
     
  16. #16 AZGREENery, Aug 29, 2017
    I wish someone told me this answer when I posted the same problem.. and it was a sativa also, I just read something that said sativa tend to go thru 2nd sets of leaves atvthe bottom, unlike indica.. I had this same problem.bro and I didn't know what the issue was, I didn't know if it was pH,over watering, too much shade or not enough sun.. but it spread quickly up so get a hold on it quick, I ended up yanking my shit like a dumbass for other reasons but seeing this type of shit on the leaves outta nowhere messed me up ,it's what started everything bad for me lol but I now believe it was just normal wilting from no sun hitting em because my new growth was just fine
     
  17. #17 Mahmo, Aug 29, 2017
    Definitely spider mites
     
  18. #18 Mahmo, Aug 29, 2017
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    Yeah they might be aphids and spider mites
     
  19. #19 guest87784949494, Aug 30, 2017
    Ok so I looked under almost every leave and did not see any spider mites, just these bugs above, so I took out my other pocket microscope definitely not spider mites, they are aphids. Spyder nights have 8 legs =] and after research these look exactly like aphids as I originally thought
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    These picture is a picture of an aphid I found on google. Looks identical to me
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  20. #20 Hemphemphooray, Aug 30, 2017
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