What kind of ferts?

A ratio of 2.5:1:1 for veg and 1.5:2.5:1 for flower.

Low numbers for a quick dose of energy and high numbers for a longer term uptake.

i.e.

5:2:2 is a snickers

40:16:16 is a steak meal

(great analogy h-man).

 

HIGH All, excellent way of putting it Sureshot....what I use in my Bubblers is Nutrilife's "A" 10-0-0 "B" 0-26-17 "C" 3-9-27 and Pure Blend grow 1.0-0.5-1.0 and Bloom 0.5-0.5-1.0 (haven't used it for two crops) and when growing seeders in a soilless mix I use Fox Farms Grow Big 3-2-6 Big Bloom 0.0.1-0.3-0.7.

 

I like the 15/30/15 for flowering out of the two you have there.

The other could be used for flowring too.

Both need added Nitrogen for them to be optimum for veg growth.

But by the same essense if you add N you're talking a BIG meal if you go on my ratios, a full on eat all you like for a dollar. We like phat plants but not lazy plants.

 

That's the answer.

2.5:1:1 for veg

1.5:2.5:1 for flower

Any numbers that are approx this ratio are fine.

 

for veg I recommend 10-10-10


For flowering, I go for something more along the lines of 10-60-10, give or take a few numbs if need be.

 

I like those numbers Pete.

Stylez, if we're talking particles per metre the reason I would choose not to use a number as high as 60 in my ratio is the possibility of the plants quick absorption of the phospherous will block absorption of the other nutrients that the plants need. Despite the flowering process requiring MORE P the plant still needs its N and K.

*lol*

[EDIT - Pete, read up on what the levels of NPK on a packet of fert actually means... there is a good post in the growfaq at Overgrow (which even a science dumbass like me sort of understood) explain it, I'm too wrecked to find a link now, but i promise you it's there!!]

SS

 

Diluted abit ofc.

and remember I said give or take

I wouldnt recommend under 40 P for flowering, 25 just seems a bit low to me.

 

Pete/

Organic sources of nutrients. Worm casings in your soil mix will give negligable extra source of nutrients plus micro nutes not always in chemical fertilisers AS WELL as more of the bacteria that turn Ammonia into Nitrate (the easiest absorbed form of Nitrogen).

You can get bat and bird guano in high N or P and again it is an organic version of these nutrients and has all the associated benefits.

SS

Stylez/

That's fair.

I know many people who use ferts with ratings such as yours. I take a gentler approach!

The thing with a 60 is that it's misleading too, I assume you are talking ppm but if not that 60 (going by the shop bought label) could be in actual fact be as low as 24ppm (60*0.4) . If we convert your whole product to ppm your ratio would be more like 10-24-8 (10*0.8).

Which would be one I would mix.



SS

 

hmm, I've heared that Miracle grow has too much salts in it, which can clog and such.

Its up to you, but I wouldnt go with miracle grow, I'd just dilute the 15 30 15, and fert with that.

 

dunno about toxic, unhealthy though.

I'll ask sid about it when he gets on to make sure.