What kind of extract is this?

Lol it literally looks like bubble hash mixed with qwiso aka, hash made in water mixed with hash made in iso...

but it also looks frozen.... hahaha and kinda like poop... but.... yea man.... i dunno haha pics are hard to determine what something really is

 

Thats qwiso/isopropyl wash; you're cool to smoke it. Its looks like a longer wash, 45 seconds to 1 minute, extracting waxes and chlorophyls which is giving it that icky smell. Itll taste slightly off, as compared to better quality iso. But itll get you to a good place haha

*have to disagree with sirsog, that's not bubble hash

 

never said it was bubble hash, said it looks like qwiso rolled around in bubble hash or kief hahahaah welll i said mixed but same concept

If thats just qwiso, something went horribly wrong with the process of the 100;s of times ive made qwiso i never ever looks like that

Way to read though hha but look in the center of the pic, a bit to the left and below the actual center, is like a cube of what resembles pressed bubble hash, hence my assumption. Some of it is like a blonde, some looks like rolled up SUPER dark oil, looks like 2 substances

 

Those cubes are just qwiso powder that he's pressed; you can do it to both. It also just happens if you group the powder together; excess moisture leaves and everything clumps together. Haha, every one of my runs is now a solid block of qwiso-powder shaped like the vials they are in. The reason I think its all qwiso is that it has the shine and color of qwiso; all of it resembles my 45 second wash's.
Any and all bubble hash I've seen is blackish, or at least much darker. If slightly more pure, bubble looks blonde with a tint of black or green (based on my experience)
The two diff substance thing happens very often with a longer wash; you'll get the ribbony-sticky goop along with a reddish brown powder.

 

If you get 2 substances in your final wash, one is an oil with cannabinoids, and one is waxes from the plant with nothing in them you want to smoke, thats already a fail lol

You guys are acting like i dont know anything about hash, which i will counter by saying you know nothing about me lol....

I make so much oil..... on a very regular basis... im saying that shit up there looks like a mix, i could be wrong yes, but why would the guy selling it say its a "mix of water and isopropyl alcohol" ALL iso is, you cant get 100%, but i could see someone saying that if they means its a mix of cold water hash, and iso hash hahahahahahahhaha

Lets not lecture me on qwiso again, ive been making it for 7 fucking years lol. I dont use your normal ways to make it... coffee filters, fuck that, thats amateur shit.. i use a Bouchner funnel, on top of a filter flask, attached to a pump to create a vacuum to filter it, rather than gravity pulling it through a VERY weak purifying agent such as a coffee filter, i use scientific grade filter papers (medium speed 2 at a time) and i filter it 2-3 times per run, then i take my qwiso, and re-dissolve it in hexane, which is non-polar, and therefore when oil is dissolved in it, and then mixed with water, the hexane will hold all compounds soluble to it (the cannabinoids and oils) and anything water soluble (chlorophyll, many many other compounds in the plant) will all be extracted out by the water, and tossed a side.... lol

qwiso is an art, and i am its artist

 

If it crumbled and your body heat didnt melt it, its very unlikely its just an oil (as qwiso would make it)

Even powder qwiso melts in heat, low heat like body heat makes it a sticky powder easily made into clumps n shit..... did it clump up, or did it crumble to a powder

 

And you sound like a know it all; your not, no one is.

Wouldn't the filter suck extra impurities through?

I've smoked both substances from my runs; yes, one is definately more pure than the other.
Both get me medicated, both in a different way. I appreciate both highs for what they do.

He says its a mix because it is; you hit the nail on the head. The dude might have thought he was being more upfront in saying it wasnt a 100% iso extraction; we all use 99 or 91.

You have extra steps to your set up because you think its worth it; its not to me. I have a seperatory funnel as well as a buchner funnel and a basic vacuum; I use those for my O-chem labs.
Im not just some idiot pot head growing in his closet; I might not have as much experience, but I do have the facts down. All my stuff can be purified later anyways, using the same methods you take, at my leisure anyways.

 

HAHAHAHA you claim you know so much, yet also claim "filtering is filtering" if you dont filter out the impurities correctly, you get impurities.... end of story

The vacuum is used to pull the iso off of any plant material or anything inside of it that IS an impurity, as it will continue to dissolve them into the solution if you dont remove them VERY quickly

On top of the fact you do a 1 min soak, meaning your product IS squat (not really, just in terms of cannabinoids content per volume of oil, im sure its DAAAANK AS FUCK still hahahaha) compared to good oil, in terms of potency.... doesnt mean its not good, but a good potency cant be reached through a polar solvent at that contact duration. sorry. You can continue to "debunk" my "theories" but they are facts of the nature of solvents, so your arguing against something proven to be true lol


My point here... You soak it for a min, then filter... how long does it take to pour through the filter... if it takes more than 10 seconds, your still extracting TONS of shit you dont want, i can filter a GALLON of iso/qwiso mix in about 30 seconds with this method..... it wopuld take HOURS to do that through a coffee filter......

 

So whats stopping me from purifying all my impure samples at a later point?
I fully know and agree with you on the issue of my purity; I thought you said to each his own?
I'm not arguing anything about your hexane shit; I just said I didn't feel like taking that step atm. I never debunked it, and I know it to be true from half my Ochem labs where we had to seperate organic/inorganic layers based on polarity.

I will give you your vacuum point; I hadn't thought of it just sucking the ISO down, thus quickening the process. That's very smart, and something I should start doing (I just hate setting up everything EVERY time I make qwiso)

 

If you dont filter it quickly, the iso will dissolve compounds in the impurities into the iso.... getting rid of them means that cant happen, which means less dissolved impurities, which is the MAIN issue with qwiso, it can dissolve quickly things you do not want in your oil hahahah. Thats why i do hexane washes... it removes most of it anyway.

In the end, qwiso is the hardest way to make a very very potent extract hahaha. but the least dangerous way.... (in terms of, you know, blowing your shit up hahahahahahah) well actually fractal distillation is the hardest, but thats pretty much a pure extract... so it doesnt count

 

It sounds like hash oil that was made in PVC plastic. It needs to be made in glass. That is probably smell like plastic. I would stay away.

 

Sorry for off topic, but I think this info helps anyone reading

Could I dissolve the dried hash in hexane afterwards to purify? I don't see what would prevent that (other than maybe degradation of oils?)
Hypothetically, if I were to do a hour long wash and then run it through hexane would it remove all impurities, or in your experience are there non-polar impurities as well?
Also, with the hexane step, do you do this right after the qwiso run or wait a bit until dry?

 

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Sorry for off topic, but I think this info helps anyone reading

Could I dissolve the dried hash in hexane afterwards to purify? I don't see what would prevent that (other than maybe degradation of oils?)
Hypothetically, if I were to do a hour long wash and then run it through hexane would it remove all impurities, or in your experience are there non-polar impurities as well?
Also, with the hexane step, do you do this right after the qwiso run or wait a bit until dry?[/quote]

You have to let the iso evaporate fully before dissolving in hexane haha.

And I'm not sure about that hour wash thing.... it would take a long long long time to water wash it out..... you can only put so much water in a separatory funnel hahahahaha