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What is wrong with my plants?

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Indoors' started by Pebbles003, Jun 2, 2022.

  1. The leafs on my plants don't look right.
    They are planted in Fox Farm Ocean Forest and I am following the Fox Farm feeding schedule.
    I just fertilized with CalMag on Sunday, for the first time.
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  2. Following feeding schedule have you given nutrients or only calmag thus far? If you have used veg nutrients when did you start
     
  3. Defoliation helps as well. Especially leaves not needed and will open canopy increasing light penetration and air circulation. All that growth uses nutrients removing will push more nutrients to viable parts of plant, especially if leaves are below canopy not even recieving light to help with photosynthesis they are basically getting a free ride
     
  4. Started feeding Fox Farm 3/25. Half the amount called for in the schedule. Big Grow and Grow Big.
    Added CalMag on Sun for the first time.
     
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  6. They are planted in Fox Farm Ocean Forest
    Yeah, well, 'aged forest products' are a poor substitute for proper soil.
     
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  7. have you checked any of those spotted leaves for mites or aphids?
     
  8. Just checked, no bugs
     
  9. #10 GroBuddy, Jun 2, 2022
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    If you've been feeding the same amount and not increased just increase nutrients. You could get soil ph and ppm run off readings to make sure the soil is good but those have grown since March more food will be needed as they grow

    I only used that ppm chart with ro water and with big bloom, grow big, tiger bloom, beastie blooms, open sesame, cha ching, and calmag. I didn't worry about charting kelp me kelp you, wholly mackerel, microbrew etc. Just the nkp and calmag food is what I was concerned about the rest are harder to burn and wont burn if used correctly by bottle directions not fox farms feeding chart. I didn't follow that at all only fed by ppms.
     

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  10. #11 GroBuddy, Jun 2, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2022
    Aged forest material is literally in all good fertile dirt. What do you think feeds forest floors its humus leaf mold, decaying plant matter etc. Not bought but in environment naturally occurring. All that may start out in solid form when aged breaks down and looks like worm casting or very good quality soil. Start a compost bin and worm bin to find out more

    It turns out that humus may be the most important thing in soil: more important that dew worms, and organic matter, but it gets so little attention. This post will have a closer look at humus to better understand how we should be gardening to create and maintain humus rich soil.
    In agriculture and gardening the term humus is sometimes used to describe well aged compost. You can buy bags of stuff labeled ‘humus’ at gardening centers, but this is just mislabeled compost. This is an incorrect use of the term. Compost is plant material that is slightly decomposed. Even aged, well-rotted compost is still only slightly decomposed.
     
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  11. #12 GroBuddy, Jun 2, 2022
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    Ocean forest is so good if you could continually up pot you wouldn't ever have to feed. My photos get no food for 3 months. Only then because I dont up pot anymore and soils depleted. Yall gotta quit bashing ocean forest, it's the easiest shit to grow in. Literally just plant then water when dry. Up pot when lower leaves start fading about 3 to 4 weeks in some longer depending on pot size and plant size. Dont even have to ph, or shouldnt ph rather until a feeding regiment of liquid nutrients begin. If you use organic dry amendments you wont need to ph then
     
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  12. Sorry I'll add since i dont see saucers and pot elevators you'll want to give a 20% run off on atleast every watering if not every feed and watering. Thatll help eliminate salt and nutrient build up thatll cause plants to lock out. Especially if you've been feeding by FF feeding chart. Dont let it soak that water back up defeats the purpose
     
  13. Its the cal-mag i suspect
     
  14. ^^ he's probably right I'd always start feeding regiment with calmag once calmag couldn't give enough ppm I'd start calmag plus big bloom when that didn't get enough then I'd start those two with either grow big or tiger bloom.

    Of course unless plants growing well and says they need more by fading bottom up.
     
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  15. Leaf mould is NOT wood chips. Leaf mould is good, wood chips are not. Try growing in sawdust and see what happens. Aged sawdust is almost as bad.
    Not that I am blaming those who use those lousy products. Marketing and advertising is what I blame. The truth is, you can visit Home Depot and buy all the materials to make great soil, for a LOT less money, and get a LOT better results. Or just be lazy and pay way too much for chemicals and sawdust.
     
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  16. U want some good ass soil get Coast Of Maine next time if u want bagged soil!
     
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  17. #18 GroBuddy, Jun 2, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2022
    I never said there wasnt anything better I said stop bashing it like its ingredients were shit. When you literally dont have to do anything but water from the water hose. Doesn't get ANY easier than that. That's at 2 months and at 6 1/2 months at harvest. If you look at a soil nutrient chart 7.2 gets everything needed especially 6 1/2 month 9.3 ph at harvest. You basically told op it was his shitty dirt that was his issue lol also it's not saw dust more like wood chips like mulch, not saying its mulch saying it's that size yes some will probably break down into dust over time especially reusing but mainly larger pieces of wood closer to mulch than dust. They are big enough to add aeration and give microbes a little spot kind of how biochar acts giving microbes a space to grow due to aerating the soil. Not saying that soils wood is anything like biochar with benefits biochar provides

    What's the difference in MG and synthetic nutrients? Honestly I haven't looked into it. I've always assumed no body grew in MG because the nutrient mix threw some plants off. Why alot of people growing in MG wind up here on GC. People all over the world use MG in gardens and consume that produce, why do people think plants take up toxins from roots and then deploy those toxins into tomatoes or buds. Plants use everything then turn it into what's needed doesn't stay the same chemical make up or wed all be dying from synthetic nutrients
     

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  18. Coast of Maine looked interesting, but my husband, who I grow the weed for is allergic to both crab and lobsters.
    I grow for years outside in FF soil.
    This year I was forced inside because my neighbor complained to the County about the smell.
    It's illegal to grow outside where I live.
    I have never see discolored leaves that this on one of my outside grows.
     
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  19. Miracle Gro is the same stuff. The others spend on marketing. Doesn't it seem strange to you, to spend a whole season lovingly tending to your plants and giving them your time, while growing them in chemically-treated wood chips? Wow, advertising can really convince people of anything it seems. If I am going to put all that effort in, at least I am going to spend a bit of time on making an ideal growing medium rather than buying expensive bags of advertising.
     
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