What if YOU owned a successful corporation?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by qwerty man, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. I think it's a little funny how people are so quick to hate corporations that work with our lawmakers and engage in chrony-capitalism. We say that the owners of these companies are greedy, immoral and heartless, but what if you were in their position?

    What if you were running a company that you built from ground up? Everyone doubted you along the way, told you you weren't smart enough, and now you proved them wrong. Your company grosses $50 billion a year and the opportunities for gov't corruption are endless.

    Be honest with yourself. Would you give a shit about the rest of the country? Or would you keep pushing and pushing, feeding your company to see how far it can grow. It's no longer about the money. It's about the respect, the power, the chance to rise above other corporations and leave a legacy for your family.


    Honestly, I wouldn't care about playing fair. I'm not decent enough of a person and neither are most people.

    Greed is a primal instinct. The people who are screwing America over are just acting like regular humans, so I don't blame them. I blame the general public, the ones who were too careless to watch after their own country.

    Am I right?
     
  2. Unfortunately, yes you are right. Until the human race can evolve out of its greedy war mongering behaviors, this will never end.

    Funny signature by the way :)
     
  3. You raise a valid point OP.

    There is greed in all of us... :eek:

    Yet, the point many here have made is that government facilitates this mode of thought through it's expansion of regulatory power, and said power's inevitable abuse by the highest bidder.
     
  4. There is nothing wrong with greed. In a free market system greed and the profit motive lead to overall benefits for everyone. You can't buy your way to the top in a free market. The only way you can get there and stay there is to offer people things that they want at the most competetive prices. When this happens everyone benefits. Government gets involved, fucks up the entire system, then blames it on capitalism and says more government is needed to fight off the greedy corporations. Sounds like a dumb plan doesn't it? Unfortunately it actually works on the majority of people. Most people actually believe what their statist overlords tell them.
     
  5. honestly, i would live an upper middle class life, award few bonuses, have a salary cap based on highest and lowest earners (highest is x times more than lowest), and donate to charity.

    I have a moral core, and a strong tendency to support the exploited or oppressed in many situations.

    I would also have workers meetings to help establish policy.

    because i can look at it from the perspective of the guy on the bottom of the food chain, not merely from behind my executive desk.

    compassion is also a primal instinct. do unto others...
     
  6. Money is just paper
     
  7. I like the Google model. Align your company interests with the interests of your consumers.

    I'm also a transparency and standard nut. I think you have more credibility as a business if you offer full disclosure - this is where our money comes from, this is our process, this is how we spend our money.

    The goal would be to inform our consumers. Here is why we offer the product at the prices we do. Here is how much we are paying our top execs vs our workers. These are our work conditions.

    When it comes to government money - you have to take it. If every bank is getting $100,000,000 in bailouts you have to take the bailout or you're that much further behind your competitors. It's like if government just funneled money to Yahoo to keep them competitive with Google.
     
  8. [quote name='"Mirvs"']I like the Google model. Align your company interests with the interests of your consumers.

    I'm also a transparency and standard nut. I think you have more credibility as a business if you offer full disclosure - this is where our money comes from, this is our process, this is how we spend our money.

    The goal would be to inform our consumers. Here is why we offer the product at the prices we do. Here is how much we are paying our top execs vs our workers. These are our work conditions.

    When it comes to government money - you have to take it. If every bank is getting $100,000,000 in bailouts you have to take the bailout or you're that much further behind your competitors. It's like if government just funneled money to Yahoo to keep them competitive with Google.[/quote]

    Nice.

    Op I don't feel corporate clowns should have any affiliation with politics. That's where we failed allowing rich people to support lobbyist who streach the truth for $$$.
     
  9. As far as me I don't need billions n I'm broke now n still donate
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  10. Not me. How much is enough for some people? jebus chirst.
    thing is, if you dont go along with it youd be framed, killed, etc etc when dealing in the same territory as the owners of the country.

    so the people that arent greedy, or cant be blackmailed arent promoted high enough.


    (as ive said)
    the only way is if one of them pulls a darth vader. We kidnap the son of an elitist at childbirth. train them up to face there father in 20 years or so.
     
  11. I've already got a small hut out in Tajikistan. Are you willing to play Ol' Ben Kenobi?
     
  12. The business im contemplating starting will be a non profit. I have no desires to be rich. Just a successful person who did so honestly and through helping others.
     
  13. I would gut my own company of everything and buy my own island to grow weed and sit by the ocean smoking. But first I would buy my self a ton of influence in the media and start playing adds that discredit the worlds religions.
     
  14. sure, as long as spikoli is ok with it
     
  15. I would disagree. Not everyone is greedy. Yes most people are but not everyone.

    I was number 2 in a multi million dollar company and I was very happy with the money I was making. My boss (the number 1) told me one time that "Its ok to be greedy and want more money" To which I said and I quote "I would rather be poor and happy then rich and miserable". I was referring to his way of life. He had all the money he wanted. He would blow through $500k in a week no problem but as far as his personal life. He had nothing. He lost his family because he only cared for the money and didn't understand you can't buy love. My point being not everyone only cares about money.

    If it got to the point where money didn't matter because you have so much of it then the next thing people usually crave is power. Perhaps a career in politics?
     
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