Can anyone tell me what my plants are missing? This is one each, Durban Poison and Pineapple Express. They are both Autos growing in recycled fox farm ocean forest re-amended with Soil Charge Pack and EWC. The soil had been sitting for at least 6 weeks before planting. No issues during last grow at all. The leaves started out like this from the beginning and I'm just over 5 weeks now. I have started watering every other watering with Real Growers Recharge at 1 tbs per gallon. Worked perfectly that way on my last grow. Any idea what I need to add? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
you can figure his out. i will attempt to assist. make a list of everything you mixed together in you soil mix. compare your list to the list of the minimum essential elements that all plants need to grow healthy. those 15 elements are: N, P, K, Ca, Mg, S, Fe, B, Cu, Cl, Mn, Mo, Zn, Co, and Ni. each element must be accounted for. if one is missing make note for now. as you're recording his list also record how much of each ingredient that will account for one or more of the elements in the list. "sufficient quantity", i.e. how much, is a differ convo. one can play guessing games to identify "deficiency" , but the more pragmatic and successful approach will be to establish where it was when you began vs guessing where it is you are now. make sense?
Man that's way over my head lol or either I'm just too high at the moment to understand it lol. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
you'll have to figure out the 'minimum 15' sooner or later... we all do. if you get into growing cannabis regularly you're probably gonna start and end being "medicated" all the time. might as well get that noodle used to working while under the influence... some of us have to or we're screwed!
I thought about reusing ocean forest but was worried about having this problem. You giving it bloom nutes yet.
I'm growing in living soil. The only thing I give them is some real growers recharge every other watering and I started top dressing with EWC. We'll see if that makes any difference. I picked up a bag of Tomato Tone off the clearance rack at tractor supply them other day cheap because the bag was taped back up. I've read that it used to be used in growing cannabis. Anyone else use it still? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Hey @Possuum I garden organically (partly) so that I didnt need to put on my lab coat and pocket protector. A basic organic soil mix with a little variety of assorted amendments mixed in - and based on a good compost to get a critter population growing strong and a gardener shouldn't really need to worry about that kinda stuff - or at least that has always been my mentality. My veggie garden being a good example - with the single only thing I do being to mulch the shit out of it with a variety of thick leaves or old hay or occasional horse manure - so who the hell knows what my Ca or Mg or Zinc levels are - I’d not love it like I do if I had to even think about that stuff. But of course not knocking yours or anyones methods - please don't take me the wrong way pal - theres a thousand ways to skin the gardening cat and they can all work great. Youve always been a huge help to all. My first thought looking at the OP pic was one of two things - lack of oxygen in the root zone due to insufficient aeration or overwatering or both - or cold temps. j
I havent used a “bloom nute” in many years and will never buy something like that again. Personally - of course. Back to the “many ways to skin the cat” deal. File under: For what its worth. j
One of my first thought as well. Environmental factors or overwatering perhaps due to insufficient aeration and not necessarily due to the lack of an element. j
I don't believe it is aeration. I mixed in plenty of extra Super Coarse Perlite in addition to what was already in the original ocean forest soil. I reached out to Soil Charge Pack and below is what they said. And I think they may be correct. I kind of think I should have added two packs of the charge packs and additional EWC when I reamended the soil and let it sit. I'm on well water and my ph is high around 7.3 if I remember so it probably did create a lockout of something. I top dressed with EWC and I'm watering with Real Growers Recharge every other watering so hopefully whatever the issue is will clear up soon. "I looked at the photos, what is the Ph of your runoff water when you water the plants? It looks like a mag def but the Soil Charge Packs contain lots of mag, having a nutrient def using Soil Charge Packs is going to be very rare. I think it maybe a ph issue causing a lockout of some nutrients like mag in this case. What is the ph of the water going into the plants? We have seen this issue before when the soil was low in life but was fixed after a few applications of compost tea, the tea will add all those nice microbes to get that soil rocking. Once the soil is full of life they will take over that ph control. I am guessing the water ph going into the plants is on the high side and that the low soil life cant adjust the ph enough if that makes sense at all. What brand worm castings? If low quality (low life) issues like your seeing can happen. Hope that helps a bit!" Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Oh and it's not temperature either as I grow inside my shop that is temperature controlled. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Have you measured the actual soil temp? Cold floors can really cause probs in the winter for some folks. Cheers Os
I can see that being a problem for some. But I'm from South Georgia. Doesn't get very cold here and they're inside a grow tent and the floor stays warm as it's climate controlled. I'm not even sure we've even had a winter here hardly lol. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
ah so! how true jerry-san. recall when you and i were both grasshoppers and we didnt understand anything about microbes, the job of what an earthworm actually does, or what an ion is? we had some good mentorship, a good bit of trial and error, and BOOM! we got 'there'. but it doesnt change the basics of plant biology. what some of "we" did was just throw this-n-that in the compost pile, let the worms do their thing, and seemingly as if by majik we ended up with a soil conditioner that has not only the minimum 15 elements all plants need to grow healthy, but also perhaps another 50-70 elements that may or may not be 100% useful to the plant. but no matter how it is we get "there", ALL plants require at minimum 15 elements in sufficient quantity in order to be all they can be. i too grow organically and in my case i can account for all minimum 15, and with some fairly simple math get a good idea of 'how much' each of those 15 elements account for. but that's just me. we all know i am...ummm. "different"