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What’s up dudes, back again— Coco question

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Indoors' started by OZs_786, Jan 25, 2021.

  1. #1 OZs_786, Jan 25, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2021
    It’s been a while, lots of personal shit going on and trying to get my grow room completely dialed in
    But I made the mistake of listening to the hydro store douche one time buying soil, and I of course bought a couple bags of an organic coco medium to try it out. Turns out the prebuffer sucks ass as i have top dressed ph buffer and minerals along with some castings and bio char
    And shit is it still useless— incredibly SLOW growth, issues with imbalance seemingly every other day
    I think I’m on board with Sade after trying a full cycle with this and I fucking HATE coco
    At least for organics, this is way too much unnecessary guess work, working with all these inconsistent coco companies
    Anyways I think that’s it, if any actual organic coco grower who don’t use bottled nutes can help me decipher this, it would be of much help. Trying to use the rest of this bag of coco before I decide to throw it in the shitter
     
  2. coco isnt soil

    its hydroponics. period

    if you treat it like soil, you're gonna struggle
     
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  3. #3 OZs_786, Jan 25, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2021
    Yea Ive come to find that out myself
    But it’s proven it can be done, just come to be extremely tedious. Too much work for organics
    Maybe if I was bottle guy this would be for me but nah man
    I’m looking for a happy organic medium that can do well indoors and doesn’t need me to baby it all the time
     
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  4. also isn’t coco chip or bark-y it is actually textured like soil and was suppose to already pre limed but not well enough apparently
    Just sucks because coco does have the potential for putting out great results and is pretty resistant but man is it a bitch and a half
     
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  5. @Soil2Coco you’re the only guy in the city I can think of for coco but I can’t recall your grow methods, my apologies if organics aren’t you’re grow style
     
  6. S2C hasn’t been around for a while....

    Hope he’s well.


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  7. Damn I haven’t been on for a while
    Hope everyone’s well
     
  8. Coco with perlite 70/30 mix is the go to, as Lone mentioned don’t use organics with coco or you are prone to issues that not many people will help you with because they don’t use coco organically.
     
  9. Yeah very few do
    Just doesn’t make sense when this one was suppose to be potting soil out the bag not any sort of mix
    It already came with CSPM and was supposedly lime “buffered” already but I know how coco is with calmag and all.
     
  10. I like real dirt fertilized with chicken manure mostly. Lots of straw the chickens shredded scratching in it looking for goodies to eat, feathers and anything else that dropped from the chickens. At least 30% pumice, 30% peat moss. Gypsum, dolomitic limestone, silica powder, phosphate rock, greensand and when first mixed, kelp. I have done at least eight grows in it, adding more chicken litter each time, and it just gets better with each grow. And it needs water only the entire grow.
     
  11. #11 OZs_786, Jan 26, 2021
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2021
    Sounds epic, I’m a big organics guy I have an extensive line up of single ingredient dry amendments along with a whole bunch of other goodies
    What do you recommend for a good start recipe? I’m all no till but this cocos been kicking my ass trying to keep it consistent with organics somehow
    But I just said f— it after adding a nice looking clone from a local disp. and went ahead an ordered some organic soil I had success with in the past
    I didn’t have the amendments I have now so I have no doubt I can cook a nice mix but I wanna try to incorporate the necessities in my new soil, as it isn’t very heavy from what I recall
    I have basalts/gypsum/ langbeinite for sulpomag and extra minerals, as well as castings, charged bio char, bio live (DTE; crab/shrimp/fish/fish bone meal, as well as bacteria’s/mycorrhiza), garden lime (slightly similar to dolomitic i believe), as well as a bunch of insect frass, neem/kelp/ and alfalfa meals as well as humics and silica
    What would you start with? Hope anyone from no till can chime in on this one as well
    High jacked my own thread into a living soil recipe from scratch ha
     
  12. All of that stuff should do just fine. I recommend using some dirt from a place where things are growing well. Fortify that with your nutes and add enough pumice or perlite or something and peat moss or other organic material to provide good drainage and agitation.

    Best of luck!
     
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  13. Definitely, I actually bought soil that’s pretty basic, but I’m gonna look for a good living soil mix that at least uses most of the stuff I have and make sure I’m not missing anything for later on
     

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