WH Petition Demands That ANTIFA Be Formally Recognized As A Terrorist Organization

Discussion in 'Politics' started by scurfer, Aug 20, 2017.

  1. When multiple sources are looking at your killing stats and ideology and compare you to Islamic extremists, yet defenders insist this is a free speech issue.

    By that logic jihadists are also just a free speech issue.
     
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  2. You're missing the point.
     
  3. The point has been made many times in multiple threads. It'd be impossible to miss.
     
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  4. Hmm, my mistake. I tried to sign the petition to get the KKK labeled as one, but its closed.

    That being said, you don't get to decide what makes a "real" terrorist. Antifa does not simply go after white supremacists, they assault anyone they choose. ISIS wouldn't exist without US meddling in the Middle East, but that hardly excuses them.

    Obama and Trump are leaders of the largest terrorist organization on earth. Fuck them with a burning pitchfork. As for the commies and nazis, they can have at each other and the world benefits.
     
  5. The last time Commies and Nazis went at each other, millions upon millions of people lost their lives.
     
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  6. True as that may be, we'll have provisions this time: lock all the nazis and commies in a football stadium.
     
  7. Noam Chomsky: Antifa is a 'major gift to the Right'

    The left-wing "Antifa" movement is rising in prominence after clashing with white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., but one progressive scholar says the anti-fascists feed the fire they seek to extinguish.

    "As for Antifa, it's a minuscule fringe of the Left, just as its predecessors were," Noam Chomsky told the Washington Examiner. "It's a major gift to the Right, including the militant Right, who are exuberant."
    Many activists affiliated with the loosely organized Antifa movement consider themselves anarchists or socialists. They often wear black and take measures to conceal their identity.
    Chomsky said, "what they do is often wrong in principle – like blocking talks – and [the movement] is generally self-destructive."

    "When confrontation shifts to the arena of violence, it's the toughest and most brutal who win – and we know who that is," said Chomsky, a professor emeritus of linguistics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "That's quite apart from the opportunity costs – the loss of the opportunity for education, organizing, and serious and constructive activism."
     
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  8. Chomsky gives good advise from a position of non violence . Two leaders in the non violent movement, Gandhi and MLK were both murdered. Neville Chamberlain tried appeasing the Nazis in the attempt to keep violence from escalating. Yet we still had WW2 where hundreds of millions perished Chomsky is correct in that Antifa did give the propaganda machine on the Right, material to demonize their opponents. Agreeing with non violence or not, we do see the violence escalating.
    Notice Chomsky didn't address the Alt-Right? Here is what he thinks about the republican party.
    "The Republican Party Is the 'Most Dangerous Organization in World History' -Noam Chomsky
     
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  9. Chomsky is someone I have great administration and respect for and he's correct that Antifa's actions have been used as a stick to beat the left with.

    That said if it wasn't Antifa that the far right and their sympathisers were blaming it would be BLM, SJW's or someone else.

    The far right and their many sympathizers are continuously playing the victim when they're called out for their bigotry using the cloak of free speech and their "Rights" to divert attention from their actions.

    Antifa have done America and the world a great service here in drawing the eyes upon what a cesspit of hate and bigotry the US really is. Anyone that is happy to stand by and let nazis march through the streets of the US waving swastikas and chanting hate against Jews and non whites is as guilty of this heinous behaviour as the bigots marching.
     
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  10. So-called anti-fascist groups tried to fight Nazism through intimidation and street violence in Germany, yet the Nazis still took power. A very similar pattern happened also in Italy, Spain, Romania, and several other countries throughout Europe and the rest of the world--a pattern we are seeing in America right now. The more Antifa pushes and riots and causes violence, the larger the Alt-Right becomes. The more events Antifa shuts down (many of which have little to no connection with actual fascism or white nationalism), the more ambitious the Alt-Right becomes. Almost as if punching people in the face isn't an effective method of combating fascism. Go figure.

    But, please, disregard this entirely.
     
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  11. Many people in the land of the overweight and under educated, fascism is little more than a fashion statement. The US corporate controlled government will have nothing to do with this movement. Trump is quickly degenerating into a psychotic nightmare. He has however given the malcontents a boost. Our fascist movement offers little else than street marching and displaying their anger of being used and abused from a long list of "taker" and not "makers". Their main reason for existence is blaming the government, and most anyone else not like them. They see themselves persecuted from the time they get up till the time they go to bed. Antifa has now given many a purpose in life.
     
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  12. Oh yeah what a great purpose in life...hitting random people in the head with bike locks, planting fucking IED's next to PUBLIC historical monuments then trying to drink the explosive liquid..
    Antifa is exactly like the Red guard in Maoist China and eerily similar to the brown shirts in Nazi Germany. Their ideologies aren't true liberal or truly democratic, but are in fact neo-maoist.

    Breaking! ANTIFA thug arrested for attempting to plant IED bomb on Confederate Statue in TX … details are SHOCKING!

    How the fuck are they not an official terror organization??? This is DOMESTIC TERROR.
     
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  13. There are plenty of Maoist in Berkeley The Klan sure has picked the right spot for Sunday.
     
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  14. Please god tell me y'all against ANTIFA realize that legally declaring a very unstructured organization as a terrorist group would literally give the government the ability to name anyone as a terrorist based on minute amounts of evidence.
    The right loves to pretend they're against government intervention/power, but are either too stupid to realize when they're promoting it or just don't care when it happens to individuals with opposing viewpoints.
     
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  15. Some on the right are easily riled up by sensationalist photos and videos. It also helps if the message is delivered in a dramatic manner.

    Donald SAD Trump is the proof of the pudding.
     
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  16. Okay so are you saying America just lay back like a bitch and let these racist antifa scum beat everyone ??(even their own people-> OOPS: Antifa Beats The Hell Out Of Fellow Protester They Mistake For A 'Nazi' )
    BY DEFINITION ANTIFA ARE DOMESTIC TERRORISTS
    Terrorism: N. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
    Domestic terrorism: N. terrorism practiced in your own country against your own people;

    K but there's still about a million other photos and videos showing your beloved Maoist terror group breaking laws, assaulting innocent people and even their own people, blowing shit up, etc. etc.
     
  17. Wonder in whose interest it is by keeping the natives agitated against some group that the week before nobody ever heard of.
     
  18. Are you kidding me? You literally just responded to a comment that makes mine all the more legitimate. Making an unorganized group like ANTIFA classified as a terrorist organization would mean that fake/photoshopped pictures could be used to deem someone perfectly fine/nonviolent as a terrorist. It's like you guys don't know that there are ways of punishing individuals in a group who are committing violent and illegal acts without declaring everyone associated as terrorists.
    Bottom line is I'm correct and it'd be a flagrant violation of rights to pass anything even related to declaring them a terrorist group. The bill wouldn't pass literally any branch of government because they're all thoroughly capable of understanding something this simple.
    Nice shot though, dude.
     
  19. So the US government then. Infact all governments.
     
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