Washing PM Off After Harvest

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  1. #1 5150, Oct 12, 2012
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    The bottom half of one of my plants had PM pretty bad. It was on some of the smaller sugar leafs. I did harvest the top half last night. I did not like the PM I was seeing. Found this vid on washing PM off.

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    So I did a test run today on a single bud. I did not think to take any pics while soaking the bud. But it did have PM on it. So I did just like it the vid above. I checked the trikes before and after the wash. After the wash the trikes were fine and the bud did look much cleaner. About 98% if the white PM was gone. I could see some on the bigger leafs where PM buildup was more. After it was blown dry by my fans you could not tell the bud was just dipped in water. Lost some of the smell it seems. I just did this today so still early to tell. I can say this bud would have been garbage but I may have just saved it.

    As you can see some of the pics the strikes are standing and appear to be fine.

    When I did my bath I saw no oil residue on top of the water. This must be some type of oil spray Jorge had on his plants. So if you have Neem or something on your plants this washing my take that off as well. I did notice the PM floating though.

    I am going to dry this bud for 3 days and see what it looks like. I will go fromthere.

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    After a fast trim. All this pics were right after the fan dry.

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    What will it taste like? IDK. Hope to find out.

     
  2. #2 5150, Oct 12, 2012
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    My pics got messed up somehow. Lets try this again.

    Also after reading 20 plus pages on comments on the vids page I think this may work. Nobody ever brought the taste though. This has me wondering. Anything will taste better than PM though.

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  3. I did this method too a couple weeks back. At first the PM was barely visable so I thought I'd be good. Don't be stubborn like me. It will spread! Most likely even if you pull off infected parts. The wash didn't kill potency. But I did accidentally step on most of my buds, forgot I had put 'em right in the way and it was dark. I am not sure about taste. It didn't taste like bad but I only cured for 5 days. I was impatient, but this time I'm gonna pace it. Harvesting my remaining plants tonight before frost. I've learned a lot for my first year.
     
  4. Did you take any pics?

    My test bud has been hanging for 8 hours now. Dry to the touch and smells very good. Not one single spot of PM.

    This bath will get rid of the PM. But taste and potency the jury is still out.

    Tomorrow night I will take pics when I harvest the bottom half of a plants.

    I am going to run two large tubs. One with the mix like in the vid. And another tub with just water. I will use the 2nd tub to dip rinse the buds. I did not like spraying them with hose nozzle. Although I could not find any damage to the trikes from the rinse.

    Will have big update tomorrow and this weekend. At this point I have a bud that I may keep. And I was going to toss it out.
     
  5. #5 5150, Oct 12, 2012
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    Here is some pics from another site. Notice how it washed the PM off and the trikes are fine?

    Jorge Cervantes: Washing Away Powdery Mildew ......Pretty cool

    I do not have a way to take pics like this. But this is just what I am seeing on my scope. Also have not found anybody that did this say not to do it. They all said it worked fine. Some had to do it two times to remove all the PM. I think this was in real bad cases IMO. But I did see some on the larger leafs tops after 5 mintue bath. Easy fix is to cut all the larger and infected leafs off before dip.

    Notice the PM is the first pic? Then how clean and standing the trikes are in the 2nd and 3rd? I am seeing this same thing.

    I think I will trim them and then rinse and hang. I will fan blow them for 24 hours. I think I like that better that trimming after the rinse. Although I can no difference in the rinse and not rinse buds at this time. They dried out just fine.

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  6. #6 5150, Oct 12, 2012
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    If you want to dink around, a grower could take some PM leafs off his plant. Check the trikes and mold before dipping. They let them soak for 5 minuts and with a dry and see what they look like. Or see how long it takes to remove the PM on your plants not mine. Perhaps I needed to go 10 minutes to get all of it on all the leafs. If anything the mold should be dead. But will it come back in the jars? Lots to learn still.

    One thing for sure is I did not expect the trikes to be perfect and standing like that. It was almost to perfect.
     
  7. I did take pictures but refuse to upload from my phone. I monitored my plants when iI washed them and the PM never returned at all. Not a trace. : )
     
  8. Look up water curing. It proves you wont wash away anything.;)

    Water curing is soaking the bud in water for a week to allow the chlorophyl, sugar, and extra nutes to dissolve off. It is a complicated process requiring the water to be changed regularly but seems to yield some good results.
     
  9. I can vouch for this method. Tried it las year and it worked great! I had a little this year and used lemon juice and it also worked great!
     
  10. So then can u spray the solution on ur buds like say in week 6 if its bad? And then dry and continue ur flowering? Hmmm....
     
  11. The lemon juice is harmless as far as i can tell. I jus squeezed two lemons in a spray bottle and doused the fuck out of it. Only had to re apply once or twice.
     
  12. #12 5150, Oct 13, 2012
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    I never tried Lemon Juice but I will next year. STAY AWAY FROM BAKING SODA IN FLOWER. I sprayed one of my harvested plants lower buds with baking soda pretty good about a week before harvest. Everything was fine until I put the buds in the jars. The baking soda absorbed the smell of the buds. You can smell the buds but it's like a clean sterile smell. Totally took the dank smell out of the buds. It only did this while it was in the jars. Or thats when I notice it anyway.

    I been spot spraying leafs with baking soda spray. I feared that I could have got some on my buds. So last night I rinsed off all my plants with the hose. Like a heavy heavy rain on them. Today it looks like my plants just loved it. They never seen water and the bottom of the plants were dusty from my dogs and fans. Now they look green and very good. Did a mold check just now and found nothing. And trust me that was the only thing on my mind at work.

    At this point I will never use baking soda again for PM. Greencure is what I will try next for sure. I will be sure to use lemons juice as well in a side by side.

    Also it seems like my potted plants always are the one's with PM. My plants in the ground always get it to. But nothing ever that ran up into the bud leafs. Perhaps it's a bad year for PM. Like I said I always had it but nothng like this year. My area has not seen rain in 82 days but still got PM. Go figure huh? I grow in Oregon.

    I need to master this PM thing is what I learned this year. It never really got bad on me so it cought me off gaurd this year. The good news is it only hit three plants at bud level. and only one plant bad to where I was questioning it.
     
  13. Yea im sure you could use it as a preventative too. Jus apply it after flower and keep doin it after every rain. Mine caught it off of some wild vines in my yard. IT WAS COVERED in it! Plus its right beside my central air unit outside. But it sure did cure it
     
  14. #14 5150, Oct 19, 2012
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    This is what the bud looks like. This was a fast trim after the plant was washed. Not the best looking now but will clean up good. Lots of frost. Taste is smooth with no funky taste. Smell is low until you give it a pinch. Then you can smell the bud but it is still low oder for the most part.

    I would say if you have to do this wash it does work. Just lots of extra work though. I only did a few branches that I found some rot and PM on.

    It is what it is. I will post some cleaned up buds next.

    This washing would also work well with any bud that fall over and get dirt and mud on them from busted branches. Pretty sure it would work well for this.


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  15. I can vouch for this method too. I too am from the pacific northwest, I performed the wash on all of my harvest and it worked well. The oil on top of the water is the PM. That's what happens to it after you rinse it in the h2o2 and water solution. After I rinsed each bud in the solution, I also rinsed off the buds again in the sink to make sure all the solution with PM in it too was off, and then dried. My buds didn't smell super dank, but they definitely get you high. I can't believe people have thrown away their bud when it has some pm on it, when they can easily do this.
     
  16. I did two branches or buds like in pics. I did not see no oil. Maybe I did not do enough.

    Did you spray with Neem oil or anything like that? I did some looking into PM. From what I learned it is not oil based in anyway.
     
  17. I did not spray anything on my buds. I don't know what happens chemically when the h2o2 hits the PM, but I do know that before I dip the buds into the water there isn't anything on the surface, but after this is somewhat of an oily sheen. Though it is not literally oil... I guess the h2o2 does something to the structure of the PM and the PM comes off in a form that is insoluble in water which is why it floats on it..
     
  18. #18 aPersonUponaHill, Oct 19, 2012
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    It is an antiseptic(H2O2), it destroys bacteria. I really like this idea actually as it will pretty much kill any organisms on the plant, and in doing so sterlize the plant.
     
  19. Great info to have. Thanks guys. And by the way, I think I could watch that guy all day long...
     
  20. #20 5150, Oct 21, 2012
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    Going to be doing 2 bottom half of my plants with this washing. I will have lots more info on this stuff in the next few days. I been all over the net and this thread has by far the most info that I have seen yet on this matter. Lots of people talking but no pics and smoke info.

    To the members that said they did this can you post pics of your buds? Lets get all the info we can on this.

    I will use my fan style trim machine to do a fast trim. After that I will then do the wash. I can tell you the buds will be ugly but will clean up okay. Just lots more work.
     

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