Visualizations and dreams?

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by budsmokn420, May 14, 2011.

  1. How does a brain observe visualizations and dreams? Are visualizations, memories, and dreams all in the same category as far as the brain viewing these images?

    I'll give you an example to help you understand a little better my thought process.

    If I look at a wall (it could be anything in the physical realm, but let's use a wall) I am seeing that wall through my eyes which can see the photons. But also at the same exact time with my eyes still open, I can visualize anything. It seems as vivid and real as the physical, yet I can't physically see it. It seems as it only exists within my head, but how is that possible? It has color and is can I see an image but it isn't physical?
  2. Dmt :D the spirit molecule..
  3. #3 KirbyPuckett, May 14, 2011
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    I watched a documentary last night that said memories are not stored in the brain, but are just references to your surroundings. Could we agree with this statement?

    In other words, we see/think of something that seems familiar, then our imagination creates the memory. Make sense? I'm starting to think the dmt in our minds has to do with imagination/dreaming. I could be very wrong though..

    edit: just realised this would explain memory loss from abuse of any substance requiring imagination (weed/psychedelics)
  4. ^
    imma buy a bufos alvarius just to abuse it for its sexygoo. lol
  5. #5 KirbyPuckett, May 14, 2011
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    If only we could learn to harness our own gland to produce it as we wish. :smoke:

    I'm sure we will be able to eventually..
  6. dude if i could do that i would be a total junkie though. lol
  7. If my theory is true, then all it requires is imagination. Then you would truly create your own reality! :smoking:
  8. Ok I can dig the dmt thing, but how can I see an Image that isn't physical?

    I think it is something to do with energy and the third eye chakra but I wanted to hear what science people think first.
  9. #9 KirbyPuckett, May 14, 2011
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    Word bro. They won't be able to though cause theres no physical proof you imagined anything (other than electrical synapses/maybe molecules required). This is where science falls flat on its face. :D
  10. Excitement of the visual cortex is not entirely reliant on the mechanisms of perception, there has been evidence that supports the idea of the visual cortex supplying dream imagery. The lower level functions aren't working (optic nerve etc.) when you sleep but everything else you use neurologically to visualize and interpret reality are still turning away causing imagery in the dream state. This is not completely proven yet but it is the strongest sounding theory out there.
  11. #11 KirbyPuckett, May 14, 2011
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    Do you think it is possible to recreate your imagination on a computer screen entropywins? I think it may be if it creates frequencies.. but I still find it highly unlikely considering the complexity of imagination.

    If this were possible, it would also mean we could watch others vision through a computer screen.:smoking:
  12. There are actually some pretty interesting theories and studies indicating that will someday be a reality. Yes the brain is complex but I feel if it is truly a process purely of mechanical means then we will be able to "crack" consciousness which will have huge implications for humanity (from superhumans to disembodied consciousness exciting stuff)
  13. #13 KirbyPuckett, May 14, 2011
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    That will be our self-destruction. You realise that, right? I still don't think it is possible though.

    With free will, comes the possibility of self-destruction. In the wrong hands, superhumans will destroy us all. Just to start it all over. Thats what happens when you try to be "god"..
  14. The way we see things is a complex process. Photons enter our eyes, pass through our lenses, and hit our retinas. The retina then sends a sensory signal to the brain to be interpreted. Our brains interpret that sensory signal.

    Therefore, you can visualize things without seeing them, and you can see things without visualizing them.

    If you had your eyeballs removed and could no longer see, someone could send an impulse down your optic nerve, causing you to visualize things.

    If you had your optic nerve cut, but you still had eyes, you would be able to see (as in light will still hit your retina), but you won't be able to visualize anything, because the sensory input will never reach your brain.
  15. Hey dude i just tried picturing a trophy or statue on my shelf and i couldnt do it. I can think of one but i cant see it there. Even in my head. What you have there is something special.

  16. You can't visualize something? Lol
  17. #17 ThatFriendlyGuy, May 16, 2011
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    Lol i can visualize stuff. But the way he described it was as if he can actually like visualize something so much that its like he sees it there. Even if he knows its not. Kinda like willingly hallucinate.
    I can like picture a statue on my shelf and imagine what it would look like but i cant like see it there.

  18. It's hard to explain. Like I see it there, but I'm not physically seeing it. It's like a mental projection that is non-physical, yet it is vivid like physicality in my mind.
  19. Yeah i know what youre trying to say. Most of us cannot vivdly visualize like that. Youre lucky. I might pm later on because im curious :).
  20. I think taking strong hallucinogens helps improve your imagination (even afterwards I'm saying). Also, mental meditation (using imagery to reach your "goal"). These are just tips I can recommend.

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