Check it. I got this piece around Christmas. Vertigo Monster bub 44mm joint 10-arm reinforced downstem circ downstem 3 pinch slide with curved handle Vertigo kills it! Hits like a machine. I really like that you can get a completely different hit by changing the down-stem. Unfortunately i have to make room in my collection for other things, if your interested PM me. Paid 4 new. Selling for a loss for sure.