The average closet has several times more wall than floor space. If the the light where suspended vertically from the ceiling and the mesh was set say 2'' from the walls could the young plants be threaded behind the screens? Hypothetically as the branches grew inward they could be pushed back into position behind it as needed, even pulled downward below wires as they would resume growing back up as usual. If this is a viable option it could solve the space issue many of us have. Understandbly veggie time would need to be extended considerably, but what the hell, they shoot under the MH anyway!! This would increase the surface sog area of my cabinet SIX TIMES!! If I got devious with a door attached screen and planter (and i am very devious) I'd be looking at almost nine times the budding area. Could some of you scrog gurus give abit of feedback on this concept plz? to all of you!
Not a scrog grower, but that sounds like a good idea. Try it and start a grow thread so we can see the results. Seems it would slow things down, would have to do alot of LST work with it, but I think the harvest might be awesome. I'd love to see it. BUD VINES!
Once upon a time I was baked and thought this same idea. If you could pull off the training part you could set up 2 400 hortilux vertically on light movers to cover even more area, you could train those ladies up to 3 to 4 feet high and they would get max light. You would probably need a bake around tube to keep the bulb cool in that situation, because where would you set the fans up? Nice idea but it really is alot of damn training. six pounds from 800 watts, is it really possible?
I was planning to set my exhaust above the light fixture, and my intake at the base of my enclosure creating a slow "windtunnel" effect. Without a reflector to catch the heat im not too worried about the area getting overheated for the plants. Melting down my fixture itself does concern me abit though lol! I'm confident I can adapt the system for safe use, but I'd love to hear from an experienced lady trainer if my girls are gonna run into trouble from the vertical arrangement. And by the way, love ur comment: "Once upon a time I was stoned and...." LOLZ, one day I might post a reply that goes "Once upon a time I WASN'T stoned and...." hahaha, might finish that sentence with "I didnt like it."
Why even use a screen, just staples and some twist ties. Oh, its already a vertical plant so its not going to benefit you to grow this way. And if the air is moving as fast as you imply, your plants will get windburned.
hehe yea it comes naturally, especially when I'm stoned. +rep to you for coming up with such a fantastic idea.
LOL well Chimera certainly did busta'cap in my idea! However, before I zip the body bag closed I'd like to make sure he hit the heart! Indeed the girls DO grow vertically on their own, but in a very inconvenient bush-like formation. Girls don't try to to use space in the most efficient way, they try to use as much space as they can take (this goes for plants aswell)! I'm trying to maximize light contact surface area and flattening their backs to the walls might ensure I can expose as many of those lovely tits to the light as possible! Obviously this will take daily training, but I'm sick of warcraft anyway lol! Instead of bending laterally I'm thinking: bending DOWN and out, and nature will help me with filling the screen upward of course. Image zero undergrowth, tits at the head, tits in the middle, tits at the knees, tits everywhere but the pots! I appreciate any feedback, negative or positive, if anyone can convince me this won't work, plz do. If anyone has some experience with this, or some helpful advice, I welcome your comments. I dream of "The Walls of Tits", help me make my dream a reality! (And for any lady growers reading this post, I'm not deranged, just like to give people a giggle when I can. Don't be afraid to respond!) I'll be continuing this thread with questions until i've finished my cabinet, then I'll open another thread with pics and progress in the diaries segment. I appreciate any posts people wanna send in, and I'll finish this post with my first question: is there any reason I can't use fishing line to make the screen? This would allow me to make small adjustments to my mesh if needed, and it's springy nature could make training alittle gentler on my girls. Pulling the wire up to ease the branches under then relaxing it back into place. I havent heard of anyone using it (perhaps because it sounds like too much hassle to construct when chickenwire is cheap and easily obtained), but I dont mind building it and the ability to modify could be invaluable. to you all
Fishing line maybe too small and cut into the new growth. Maybe some small diameter nylon or cotton rope/string, say an 1/8 inch diameter or a little bigger? You could do like I've seen with screen grows. Use say 1" pvc with four 90 elbows and build a rectangle or square. Drill holes a bit larger than rope/string diameter along the pipe, run it thru horizontally (and maybe vertically) and knot the ends. I can't wait to watch your grow, are you germinating yet?
I'm aiming for germ after paddy's day, mylaring tonight, gonna take a few days of heat readings and so forth while I'm building some pieces (like my screens!). Goin away that wknd and I'll really need to be here every day for this project so taking a relaxed approach to starting. I'll see about getting something heavier gauged. I'm abit nutty about light/reflectivity, (you'll see that when the pics start coming!) So the image of thin white fishing line appeals to me, but on the other hand: I'm taking enough risks with this grow! Thanks for the input and I'll finish with my next question: Rather than plant the seedlings in the center of the pots I'd like to place them near the edges next to the walls so I don't have to put a huge bend at the base of the stem. Will the girls be alright losing one direction of lateral root space? This is a soil grow. to you all
Hey now TLC, I didn't say it wasn't a very inventive idea just that it serves no purpose other than confining your plant. Truth is if your going to scrog, and for those with height issues or lack of light penetration this is a great way to maximize your grow.
iv heard of the vertical scrog method before, a friend of mine tried it and said it worked fine. he had a tall closet without much floor space so just trained his plants up the walls and had 4 100W CFL's in the middle of the growspace hanging down and getting higher, this meant there was maximum light dispersal on all the walls = lots of bud, go for it, i think its a great idea!
Here is a guy who did this with DWC. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hKi_Rp8Fn8]YouTube - Vertical Scrog - Casey Jones, Sour Grape, Purple Kush - Week 3 of 12/12[/ame] 1/2 Lb plant in the end.... I think its a great Idea and this is how I am going to grow my next round! Go for it!
I watched some vertical scrog videos recently. Wwwwwwwwow! Actually made my mouth water. Any new news on this?
Wow im glad I stumbled across this thread. I also was thinking of doing something like this but a cross between the two so the screen would look almost like an A but without the line in the middle and a bend at the top so that I can get a bit more surface area but not go too high vertically.
Any updates on how this works? I'm wanting to try it on my own box but unsure in what direction I should train the plants. I'm 100% that this method will be proved to be superior to the ScrOG on micro grows like mine. Would it be best to train the plant from behind the screen vertically, using the screen to force branches outwards? Should I train the plant in front of the screen and pull the branches backwards? What do I need to do to maximize my Rubbermaid yield?
Hey gang. I designed my own VScrOG if anyone is interested in my journal. http://forum.grasscity.com/indoor-grow-journals/693617-barefoot-organics.html