Vegi's Mars Hydro II LED Multi Strain Grow

Discussion in 'Indoor Grow Journals' started by Vegi, Mar 6, 2016.

  1. #1 Vegi, Mar 6, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2016
    Sup guys!

    So after a very long time I've decided to get back into this whole growing thing. My first two grows were pretty budget and DIY so after securing a better setup I've decided to do it properly.


    Well my last setup did well, but it was pretty DIY, so this time almost all of it is off the shelf and pretty generic;
    • Black Orchid 60x60 Grow Tent
    • Buddy 100mm Carbon Filter
    • Generic 100mm Grow Fan
    • Small 100mm Clip Fan for recirculation
    For the lighting I decided to upgrade hugely from the 75W UFO I started out with. Now I know everyone has an opinion about LED and particularly Mars Hydro, but for what I wanted, budget, size and energy consumption I couldn't be anymore more happier with the Mars Hydro II 400W.

    Mars Hydro II.jpg

    Here's the setup;

    00. Initial Setup.jpg

    As you can see the hanger kit which comes with the Mars Hydro is really for a bigger tent with more hang, so I had to double up on the hanging kit to bring the LED up alot further with the ratchets on minimum.

    00. Initial Setup (Higher LED).jpg

    Here's the fan/filter and ducting setup;

    00. Fan Setup.jpg

    I also didn't really wanna have my mesh flap open all the time or the side ports open, so I used some extra ducting to have an S shaped intake port. It kept trying to retract and curl up to face the floor again, so I botched a cardboard front which I'll cover with carbon filter material to stop light and dust getting in. I'm using the clip fan on the inside in front of the intake to draw air in as well as circulate it.

    00. Intake.jpg

    Grow Medium

    I'm keeping it simple again, its vegetarian sowing/cutting soil 60/40 with perlite. I'm impressed by the Canna Bio range of nutes from the previous grows so sticking with it, will be using;
    • Bio Vega - Vegetation Stage
    • Bio Flores - Flowering Stage
    • Bio Rhizotonic - Roots growth and health
    • Bio Boost - Extra flower power

    OK, so I was obsessed with wanting to grow Ken Estes Original Grand Daddy Purp. Everything I've seen and read has made me want it, but there's been a major drought of seeds the past few years; its been nigh on impossible. I was lucky enough to be gifted some GDP seeds a while back which I'm trying now (no 100% guarantee they are or will work). These could be one of the following (hoping it's one of the GDP;
    • (Bay 11 X Bay Dream) X (Bay 11 X Bay Dream)
    • (Bay 11 X Bay Dream) X GDP''s OG Kush
    • (Bay 11 X Bay Dream) X Dutch Passion Frisian Dew
    • (Bay 11 X Bay Dream) X Seedsman''s Sleestack X Skunk
    But also luckily, GDP seeds are now back for sale after that hiatus, and thanks to the lovely people at Gorilla Seeds I also now have them just in case this doesn't work or they aren't GDP.

    00. GDP.jpg

    I've waited soooooooo long for legit GDP seeds and spent so much I'd rather try those gifted seeds first before I get into the GDP

    Hoping to keep this updated fairly regularly and hope I do justice. I still consider myself to be a novice grower and am continuously learning so any tips, advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

    Nuff love and lets get this going!

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  2. #2 Vegi, Mar 6, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2016
    Day 4 - Planting
    • Ave. Temps: 25.5 C
    • Ave. Hum: 46%
    • Nutes: None - just water!
    • Stage: Vegging
    OK, so I commenced germination of those gifted GDP seeds using the tried and tested wet paper towel routine. Germination started Thursday and it took four days before roots started showing.

    03. Germination.jpg

    Potted in my medium and and now in tent waiting for seeds to break surface.

    04. Inside 1.jpg
    04. Inside 2.jpg

    (Please note temps and humidity in pics was when light and fan was first fired up, its consistent now at a much higher temp and slightly lower humidity)

    I'm going for four plants; it'll be a tight fit but I'm worried some will male out on me so hoping for a 50% success rate.

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  3. Pics not working for me

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  4. I'mgonna tag along Looks good so far
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  5. Hi fluxicity,

    For some reason ever since the upgrade, pics work if viewing on a browser but not via Tapatalk or the App.

  6. Thank you Stiggy and welcome!!!
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  7. Laptop pics are fine
    I think they are still working the Bugs out of Tappy
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  8. Weird, everyone else's pics that I've looked at seem fine.
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  9. Works fine from my laptop but no pics showing for me on Tapatalk, just code.

    Think its a new forum upgrade bug, well I hope it is anyway haha

  10. #10 Vegi, Mar 10, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2016
    Day 7
    • Stage: Vegetation Day 4
    • 24C Temp.
    • 39% Hum.
    • Nutes: None
    So the update is all four have now popped! I think the light might be bleaching the ends already so have moved up but can't tell just yet. Will let you know as she gets more modes growing.

    07. Leaf.jpg
    07. Plants popped.jpg

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  11. I'll sub!

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  12. Day 11
    • Stage: Vegetation Day 8
    • 22.6C Temp.
    • 40% Hum.
    • Nutes: None
    So the girls are plenty growing and seems to be going OK. They are getting hungry for water now and I can just see one or two roots just starting to try to pop out the bottom. Will give it a few more days and then transplant. The bottom pic you can see the early bleach but I nipped that in the bud and after raising the light they seem to be doing alot better.

    11. Veg day 8 All Plants.jpg
    11. Veg day 8 Close Up 1.jpg
    11. Veg day 8 Close Up 2.jpg
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  13. Haha check that wavey cotelydon in pic 2.

    Looking good bro. You under led? Be careful your soil doesn't stay too moist if so cos that's what happened to me when I switched to a low power led. Cos your temps are on the low end you might find the combination means it doesn't dry well.

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  14. Thank you @fluxted.

    Yeah I learnt that the hard way when I did my first grows. Now I only water when its bone dry and I've learnt to just leave it the F alone at times.

    While I was at it I modded my intake, you could see the LED light when dark plus wanted to make sure no dust, bugs or gremlins got in.

    From this...

    11. Intake no filter.jpg

    To this.

    11. Intake filter.jpg
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  15. I have plants that are around that size, i just ordered a 180x5w LED from Mars II series, how far away from those little seedlings is your led? I'm still waiting for mine in the mail!!
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  16. Quite far now dude, the hanging kit that comes with it hangs it quite low. I doubled up using that kit when I got it to give it better height but a few days ago doubled up again which means its quite high up now with a bit of leeway on the ratchets.
  17. OK so now the addition of the carbon filter cloth on the intake has increased temps to more what I was expecting and had previously in my grows and causing negative pressure.

    Glad I put it on early before it got smelly!

  18. Subbed!

    I'm starting my first grow and have a Mars Hyrdo 300W and I think mine is hanging a little low. What do you mean by doubling up on the kit? I'd like to raise mine closer the top of the tent.
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  19. Hey @AB5

    Each light has four points where you connect individual metal wires from the LED to a central clip which you hang it from; imagine a pyramid shape.

    Each metal wire from the LED I connected to the hook then looped it back again to the light, halving each metal wire and reducing distance. I did this again a few days ago halving again; effectively it is a quarter height.

    Sent from outer space...
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