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Discussion in 'Indoor Grow Journals' started by VictimlessCrime, May 22, 2010.

  1. Remember all those little tiny branches on bubba kush at the bottom, like all the plants have, them little ittie bitty tiny branches, like the 1" clone above this post, remember those??

    this is what happens when you stick them under an HPS light for a week

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    can you say BBBBOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!
     
  2. #62 VictimlessCrime, May 24, 2010
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    Speaking of clones, what if you could afford to kill all the clones you wanted to on accident? What I mean is, what if you suck at cloning?? Low success rate?

    Wouldn't it be nice to know that in the 1 week it took you to determine whether those clones are gonna make it or not, new branches were already growing off the ones you just cut!!

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    If you look closely you can see that even this clone is trying to grow new branches back were the others were snipped off with their fan leaves. these were all taken at the same time (pics) look at the clone leaning behind it, it's not even done healing the wound you can see from the fan leaf coming off.


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  3. Man, it's hard to keep things together with moving it from one to another thread. bare with me folks
     
  4. Here you can see the node FORCING a new branch to grow where one was cut. Normally the little gray/brown shoots just fall off, not these.

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    and to answer your question drrasta, yes, every node is treated like a seperate plant in the aspect of, if you cut it, it will force branching between the cut and the main stalk, however as stated above, the return rate at which those "cut" branches come back is minimal at best. You would be able to pull clones off the lower branches that were just cut about a week to two weeks after you cut them originally.

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  5. Now apply that to LL and say a scrog set up as this originally was,

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    flower on the left is the lowest node on the main, the flower on the right was the top (uncut) see any difference other than the actual "top" of the plant is directly under the light, directly you can see it other pics. The one on the left is the farthest flower from ANY light source and it's bigger. My only explanation for this is LL.

    Liquid Light forces branches that are the lowest from the top of the plant to be equal with the top of the main shoot during the Calvin Cycle.

    The plant WILL NOT ADVANCE IN HEIGHT until this occurs. And that dear friends is when you flower them bitches!!
     
  6. :hello:hey VC welcome to GC:gc_rocks: LOL...that shit rhymed..:rolleyes:.i'm gonna be ask'n lots o Questions so thanx ahead of time....#1 can this method be used outdoors on full size, full season plants with exellent growth like that:smoking::smoking::wave:
     
  7. what up VC! yeah, same pwizzle. guess I'm not the only one to come chill with you. lol
    well shit man, nice grow. still goin strong. ill be watchin too!
     
  8. Be watching your grow VC, read a thread elsewhere and followed ya over here.
     
  9. Now lets look at transpiration for a second.
    Transpiration, helps draw water and dissolved minerals up the plant's stem from the roots, which have pulled whats deemed necessary by the plant out of the grow medium.
    During transpiration, water evaporates through tiny holes in the leaves. More water is drawn up through a thin tube extending down the plant's stem as the water evaporates from the leaf surface.

    Anyone ever siphon anything around here? Remember when gas was really expensive and you stole it from your neighbors tank?? LOL, same thing. The plant is evaporating moisture from the surface of the leaf and is replacing from moisture at the bottom of the plant aka roots.

    So, if you were to cut the leaf off and the plant had no where else to send that moisture to evaporate, what happens to it?? It can no longer count on the same flow of nutes from the roots up to the leaves because you changed part of the equation. So it sits, in the roots, or in the medium, doing nothing. If the nutes get "locked" in your roots, well, you all have heard the term "lock up" before right?!

    Now before we get into transpiration and gluttation any further lets address something. There is continued debate about whether the flatness of leaves evolved to expose the chloroplasts to more light or to increase the absorption of carbon dioxide. Either way, the adaption was made at the expense of water loss.

    Jot that down, it'll be important.
     


  10. You can use the LL on anything you want to increase its growth and flower productions


    and ask away!!

    welcome to my journal, and I would like to welcome even more friends from RIU to GC, great to have you here folks!!!!
     
  11. The epidermis is the outer layer of cells covering the leaf. It forms the boundary separating the plant's inner cells from the external world. with out getting to technical,The epidermis is usually transparent (epidermal cells lack chloroplasts) and coated on the outer side with a waxy cuticle that prevents water loss. The cuticle is in some cases thinner on the lower epidermis than on the upper epidermis, and is thicker on leaves from dry climates as compared with those from wet climates.

    So jot that down, thicker on leaves from dry climates as compared with those from wet climates. More humidity equals thinner leaf, less humidity equals thicker leaf.

    The epidermis tissue includes several differentiated cell types: epidermal cells, guard cells, subsidiary cells, and epidermal hairs ( trichomes ). The epidermis is covered with pores called stomata, part of a stoma complex consisting of a pore surrounded on each side by chloroplast-containing guard cells, and two to four subsidiary cells that lack chloroplasts. The stoma complex regulates the exchange of gases and water vapor between the outside air and the interior of the leaf. Typically, the stomata are more numerous over the abaxial (lower) epidermis than the adaxial (upper) epidermis.

    Jot that down also, more numerous over the lower than the upper. And they control the exchange of gases and water vapor. Aka foliar feeding and o2 / co2 exchange. These are key!

    The middle of the leaf or the Mesophyll is where about 80% of the photosynthesis process takes place. Divide that section into two layers An upper palisade layer of tightly packed, vertically elongated cells, one to two cells thick, directly beneath the adaxial epidermis. Its cells contain many more chloroplasts than the spongy layer. These long cylindrical cells are regularly arranged in one to five rows. Cylindrical cells, with the chloroplasts close to the walls of the cell, can take optimal advantage of light. The slight separation of the cells provides maximum absorption of carbon dioxide.
    This separation must be minimal to afford capillary action for water distribution. In order to adapt to their different environment (such as sun or shade), plants have to adapt this structure to obtain optimal result. Sun leaves have a multi-layered palisade layer, while shade leaves or older leaves closer to the soil, are single-layered.
     
  12. So take that info on the last two posts if you are NOT FROM RIU, and think about it for just a sec.

    If you wanted thick leaves, what would you do?

    If you wanted thin leaves, what would you do?

    If you wanted more nutes to get into your plant's middle leaf than the roots could take in, how would you get them there?

    Why would you want thick leaves?

    Or thin leaves??



    ok, I guess everyone should be allowed to answer, my peeps from RIU and my peeps here at GC,

    + rep for correct answers
     
  13. #73 VictimlessCrime, May 24, 2010
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    And before I forget to mention it. These clones are ONLY being fed LL and I put water in the pebbles, that's it.

    veg'd under multiple Feliz and Agrosun lights above them by several feet

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  14. Now lets take a brain break and look at some new bud porn from my Tangergreen.

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    that was in between the two cola's on a plant that was topped on day 12 of 12/12.

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    Here's that topped flower again, you can actually see where I pulled that stake out at in the bottom of the flower.

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    notice any difference other than size between the top of the "top" and the little popcorn nug under the canopy?? I picked the smallest one on pupose, hint hint...

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  16. If you can look past the gian tflower for a sec you can see the Bubba Kush and PG13 starting to overtake the chamber in the background

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    here's one from even with the canopy,

    remember they have only been in there for a little over a week,

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  17. Notice where the trich's are the most obvious??


    the farthest from the light.

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    They form late in the bloom when the sun as getting farther away, these pics are from week 6 of 12/12 on the mother plants, the clones growing next to them are the same genetics only twice the size in flowers:D
     
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    always thicker at the bottom. My plants in flower are getting their lights moved away from them slowly and progressively for the last two weeks to increase trich production.
     
  19. again, the farthest from the light,

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  20. Okay, so for thick leaves, lower humidity, for thin, raise it. If you want more nutrients, I guess you would want to keep low humidity for thicker leaves, therefor increasing nute flow due to higher transpiration?

    So if you can control the thickness of leaves, you can control the amount of nutes getting to certain parts of the plant? Bleh...I'm a little lost, teach. lol
     

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