US vice president heads to Latin America amid calls for debate on drug legalization

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  1. US vice president heads to Latin America amid calls for debate on drug legalization
    MARTHA MENDOZA / AP / March 3, 2012


    Vice President Joe Biden heads to Latin America this Sunday amid unprecedented pressure from political and business leaders to talk about something U.S. officials have no interest in debating: decriminalizing drugs.

    Presidents of Costa Rica, Guatemala, El Salvador, Colombia and Mexico, all grappling with the extremely violent fallout of a failing drug war, have said in recent weeks they'd like to open up the discussion of legalizing drugs. Argentina, Uruguay, Peru and Mexico already allow the use of small amounts of marijuana for personal consumption, while political leaders from Brazil and Colombia are discussing alternatives to locking up drug users.

    Business leaders are weighing in as well: in February, a group of banking, medical and legal experts sponsored a drug policy conference in Mexico City which concluded that current drug control policies aren't working and need reform.

    "It's a different moment when you have actual heads of state talking about the need for a thorough debate on this," said John Walsh, a drug policy expert at the Washington Office on Latin America, an independent think tank. "It's certainly different for sitting presidents to be uttering those words. You wouldn't have thought it possible just a few years ago."

    Dan Restrepo, the top Latin America official in the White House, briefing reporters about Biden's upcoming trip, said the vice president does expect a "robust conversation" about the security problems Latin American countries face as drug traffickers battle to control the lucrative U.S. sales. But he said Latin American leaders shouldn't expect a shift in policy.

    "The Obama administration has been quite clear in our opposition to decriminalization or legalization of illicit drugs," said Restrepo.

    Biden is scheduled to arrive in Mexico City on Sunday to discuss economic and security issues with Mexican President Felipe Calderon. He also plans to meet Monday with the three top Mexican presidential candidates running for a six-year term to replace Calderon this year.

    On Tuesday Biden is slated to travel to Honduras to meet President Porfirio Lobo, along with the presidents of El Salvador, Panama, Costa Rica and Guatemala, all countries struggling with the sweeping consequences of expanding drug cartels. Drug gangs have killed tens of thousands, overcrowded prisons are overflowing with accused drug users while powerful cartels fuel corruption - influencing elections, weakening democracies and threatening fragile economies.

    "I do think that the issue of legalization will be raised by the leaders to Biden, but in private," said Walter McKay, a policing expert on security issues in Mexico, where more than 47,500 people have been killed in drug gang violence since 2006.

    Two weeks ago, Guatemala's president Otto Perez Molina, a right wing conservative and former army general, stunned observers when he declared the U.S. inability to cut illegal drug consumption leaves his country with no option but to consider legalizing the use and transport of drugs. He vowed to galvanize regional support.

    Since then, Costa Rican President Laura Chinchilla and Funes have said they're open to the discussion, while Panama's leaders say they do not agree with decriminalizing drugs.

    For decades Latin Americans leaders and the U.S. have cooperated on a war on drugs, with more than a trillion dollars spent by the U.S. to support enforcement and eradication in Latin America, as well as promises to reduce cocaine, marijuana and methamphetamine use in the U.S. that generates an estimated $25 billion in profits each year.

    But during that time, demand for drugs has increased, fueling violent competition between dealers.

    In 2009, former presidents of Mexico, Brazil and Colombia blasted the war on drugs and said it was time to consider the decriminalization of marijuana. Last summer they were joined by more than a dozen high level international leaders including former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and former U.S. officials George P. Shultz and Paul Volcker, again slamming the war on drugs as a failure and calling on governments to undertake experiments to decriminalize the use of drugs, especially marijuana, to undermine the power of organized crime.

    But while it's one thing for former presidents to suggest decriminalizing drugs, it is another thing entirely when sitting presidents do so, said retired Brazilian judge Maria Lucia Karam in an email to The Associated Press.

    Karam said that while Latin American leaders at first may have been willing to give the "get tough" strategy time to work, they've been worn down by the drug war's relentless toll.

    "The public comments we are seeing are a sign of deep frustration and anger that is now prevalent in Latin America due to the U.S. and U.N.'s seeming unwillingness to engage in a serious debate about implementing effective drug policies that respect human rights and truly protect health," she said.

    Danny Kushlick, who heads the London-based Transform Drug Policy Foundation, said the region is "on the verge of a tipping point that will begin when the Latin Americans raise the issue within earshot and in full view of the Americans. Ultimately this is about allowing democratic conversations to take place without being leaned upon by the U.S."

    But former U.S. drug czar John Walters said those who are calling for a debate on legalization are taking a dangerous and misguided step.

    "I would note to them that the kind of dangerous people they face would welcome that change, to become more powerful," he said. "Legalizing is not a solution, it's an excuse."


    Joe Biden is one of the authors of the ONDCP's policy that requires them to do anything necessary to keep marijuana illegal,see ONDCP Re-authorization Act,and is a true drug warrior.

    His problem will be that the leaders he is talking to are not backed up by legislatures with members bought and paid for by drug war dependent industries and bureaucracies like America. As tax dollars disappear and ONDCP drug war funding diminishes,so does support of countries unable to spend 25 billion dollars next year to keep prohibition in place like we can.

    Now the behind the scenes financiers will have to go to those countries and buy their legislators too if they want to keep prohibition going,,,,the price of peanuts just went up. :smoke:
     
  2. ""For decades Latin Americans leaders and the U.S. have cooperated on a war on drugs, with more than a trillion dollars spent by the U.S. to support enforcement and eradication in Latin America, as well as promises to reduce cocaine, marijuana and methamphetamine use in the U.S. that generates an estimated $25 billion in profits each year.""

    The government is downsizing the amount of monies being spent by drug users,,just last summer it was considered that 30 billion a year just for marijuana was a conservative estimate. The new budget for the ONDCP is asking for 25 billion,,an increase of 8.5 billion over last year but they are cutting funding to these countries.

    Wonder if they are going to use the extra money to build more prisons?
     
  3. Now, if only we can sway the decisions of the Conservative Party of Canada...

    unfortunately, they have inoculated themselves against facts.
     
  4. Man, I wish Biden would just fuck off. Other countries have actual leaders that realize prohibition caused drug cartels so continuing prohibition wouldn't solve it. Meanwhile, we're stuck with douchebags who have their heads so far up their own asses they don't even want to think about discussing legalization.
     
  5. That's gotta be a huge slap in the face..

    COUNTIES TORN APART FROM DRUG LAWS AND ORGANIZED CRIME


    OBAMA
     
  6. How much is this going to cost us?

    Will Biden just offer them cash to fund their military's actions against the drug gangs, or will we offer practical support (soldiers, helicopters, drones, etc.)

    Also, who wants to bet Biden will attend at least one coke party on this trip?
     
  7. #7 tflga, Mar 3, 2012
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    I just read an entire chapter on the war on drugs in Rollback.

    I can imagine that he will extend his hand for whatever "support" and money they will "need" to keep this effort an ongoing one..
     
  8. Sending Biden is pretty much the exact opposite of legalizing drugs. His son was a Big Pharma lobbyist, and he created the Drug Czar.
     
  9. Um...he knows the drug cartels are the biggest supporters of drugs being illegal, right? Prohibition is the entire fuel for the black market.
     

  10. He's just saying what the lobbyist/s told him to say. He knows it's a line of bull. But there's some brainwashed sheeple still out there that believe it...:rolleyes:
     
  11. It would be bad ass if all these countries that are so devastatingly affected by the illegal drug trade got together and finally laid out a solid plan to combat it... Ya know, besides dumping a whole shit load of taxpayer money, and an unprecedented amount of nonviolent offenders in prison.
     
  12. i was just watching drugs inc. the other day (nat geo show)
    and they said we've given around 5 billion to Columbia to eradicate coco farmers and cartels etc..

    meanwhile there's more blow coming into the US than ever...
     
  13. Drugs inc. sounded so promising in the commercials for it but it's been a pretty big disappointment for me. Only the one about hash was decent but no really new insights or anything.

    These countries should ignore the US and legalize drugs if they want to. The US would probably eventually be left with no other option than to legalize.
     
  14. #14 TheJourney, Mar 4, 2012
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    The war on drugs is such a laughably epic failure. It's so funny(in a very sad way) that it is still going, and we're wasting all that money.
     
  15. When I'm high and watching stuff about drug policy, I often find myself laughing at very serious parts of it.
     

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