Unemployment Extensions

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jamtastic, Apr 12, 2010.

  1. There are 5 tiers of unemployment extension. I used up my states unemployment and I don't qualify for an extension.

    I missed it by a few hundred dollars. Congress need to lower the damn requirements to get an extension, and stop giving people 99 weeks of unemployment.

    The unemployment extension was passed BEFORE this whole economic crisis. Lets get rid of the 2008 EUC08 bill and pass a new one that makes sense. I got layed off end am now without any income and can't find a job for shit, there is NOTHING out there, and I hear the same stories from everyone.

    I'm not a liberal or a democrat, but you'd figure they might help the people who actually need it, not the people who are unemployment for 99 weeks without even looking for a job.
     
  2. ive been unemployed 2 months and no unemployment benefits. SUCK
     
  3. I've been searching for employment every single day for almost 365 days now. I started looking April 26th last year; and I have heard back from just ONE possible employer, and that was for a preliminary interview. Didn't get called back in for the second.

    Then again, I'm barely 21, and the unemployment rate for my age bracket is something like 50% :(
     
  4. #4 Jamtastic, Apr 12, 2010
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    Right after I posted this I got offered 2 jobs.

    One full time, and one part time. However, the full time job is too far away, unfortunately because I would be making a TON of money.

    So I'll take the part time, it's still like 25-30 hours per week, and I'm going to claim exempt, because I need that money now, not waiting for a refund. They can come take it April 15th, 2011 - Not on my next paycheck. So that should give me a bit more money in the pocket.

    I'm SOOO happy. Plus, I worked in the last quarter, and made at least $1 so if I make $3500 I can get another unemployment session. (Edit: I DO NOT WANT UNEMPLOYMENT - I would rather work for my money)

    I'm PUMPED :hello::hello: I just hope this works out, or I'm going to be very very depressed.

    Only problem is it starts tomorrow and I have my suboxone doctor tomorrow, so I'll have to take my drug test early in the morning, I was hoping for more time, but I'm just drinking a TON of water hoping to get my opiate levels down as low as possible.
     

  5. im going on 2 months unemployed. over 60 applications or resumes sent. got an interview on thursday and thats the only one ive heard back on. its so frustrating. im 20 so i know what you mean. ive applied for anything from a tech support guru to landscaping or washing dishes. i dunno what the deal is
     
  6. Funny how illegals get jobs so easily and you can't... chances are you're not hitting all the jobs, just ones you think your good enough for. Way to waste my tax dollars on welfare.
     

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    Yea, I'm curious what kinds of jobs he's applying for where he would make "a TON" of money, yet he also needs the money now... so he'll happily take welfare... :confused:
     
  8. Unemployment is not welfare. Employers pay into unemployment like an insurance premium and when they lay people off, their premium goes up. Workers earn their right to collect unemployment compensation by virtue of the fact that they actually worked for a specified amount of time and became unemployed through no fault of their own (lay off, business closed, etc.). Like everything else connected with our government, there are those who take advantage and work the system but welfare and unemployment are two entirely different things. As an employer, I'm glad my people have unemployment to help them get by if something happens to me or my company. They've earned it.
     
  9. #9 Jamtastic, Apr 12, 2010
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    Not that I want unemployment, but if I got layed off again, atleast I'd have some income. Believe me, I DONT want unemployment, I want to work for my money.

    And I'm not on welfare.
     

  10. Unemployment is welfare. Employers and taxpayers are being forced to pay for a social benefit.

    Just because you support it doesn't mean it isn't welfare.
     
  11. Then I guess police, fire departments, trash collection, and city water are welfare too.
     

  12. Yea I get it, good luck finding a job. I'm just sick of this system, it's not your fault you have to play in it.

    It is welfare, especially now that the states have run out of employer's money and they are turning to the Federal government to cover the billions in state deficits with billions in federal deficits.
     

  13. Sure, of a different sort.

    Social welfare benefits refer to individual handouts, not community institutions.
     
  14. Without welfare the crime rates would soar..

    A desperate man will do anything to feed his family..

    Better to give people enough to survive on unless you want to live in a "Mad Max" type scenario...
     
  15. Long term unemployment benefits are detrimental to job creation because it places constantly changing-and-increasing taxes on emloyers.

    It may sound surprising, but it actually creates a state-fueled incentive NOT to hire new employees, since the increased taxes are so heavy handed.

    Here is an example:

    20,000 Reasons Not to Hire Someone - You're the Boss Blog - NYTimes.com
     
  16. Without taxes given to a corrupt state everyone would be wealthier..

    You think taxes make surviving on minimum wage easy? You think taxes make paying above a minimum wage easy?

    You statists are so quick to forget that the money given to people was once taken from people.
     

  17. this happens and will continue to happen welfare or not
     
  18. Aaron I've read enough of your posts to know you're a smart guy and I don't want to quibble over wording and definitions. I guess my real point here is that the unemployed have actually done something (work, produce, and pay taxes) to qualify/earn their right to their benefits while recipients of what is classically known as "welfare" have not. In that vein, I'll stand by my original statement that unemployment and welfare are two entirely different things. And while I believe there is a place for traditional welfare in certain limited circumstances, overall I'm not a big fan of it and don't have a lot of respect for people who create a lifestyle around it because they're too lazy or unmotivated to do otherwise. That is not generally the case with people on unemployment and I have much more respect for the guy who lost his job, and needs a little help to get by until he can find another one.
     

  19. File:US Property Crime Rate.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    File:US Violent Crime Rate.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Your statement doesn't match with reality. US Welfare programs began their expansion under Johnson, reached their zenith under Carter. That was also the most rapid expansion period of both types of crime.

    Reagan was unable to rollback any significant programs, and the climb slowed but continued in those years as welfare continued to be given away willy-nilly.

    In 1992 states started seriously reforming their welfare policies, and in 1996 nationwide welfare reform was signed by Bill Clinton.

    There is a very strong case to be made that welfare increases crime violent and property crime instead of decreasing.

    We can also look at the overall imprisonment rates:

    File:US incarceration timeline-clean.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's no accident that imprisonment spikes in 1980, as you now have an entire generation of kids who have grown up in the welfare-entitelement environment. Crime (taking from others, feeling like they deserve things they didn't earn) is more natural, and personal responsibility has been discouraged by the state for a generation.

    Serious increases in law enforcement activity are required to counter this run-amok generation of welfare-mentality youth, and doesn't really meet success until 1993

    File:Ncsucr2.gif - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    After welfare reform (1996) finally sets in and the entitelement mentality is forcibly changed, you finally see imprisonment rates begin to decline around the year 99/00.

    We will probably see a continued shrinking and leveling off rate-of-imprisonment, since crime has been significnatly reduced by breaking the entitelement mentality. The number will remain artificially high for years to come, because a great many violent criminals have extended sentences (in places like California, 3 strikes= life for felonies). So the real decrease in prison population will be gradual, as the population expands and the biological solution (old age) takes its toll on current prison population.

    Of course legalization and regulation of marijuana would also significantly help reduce prison populations.

    But as it stands, the evidence is rather clear that welfare is the cause of-- and not the solution to-- a great many of our social problems. Huge prison populations are needed to help cover up the tragic and terrible consequences of liberal democratic social policies.
     

  20. And you individuals are so fantastic and offer the solution to all of life's problems...
    Shame ye will never see Libtopia..:p

    That is unless you move to Somalia..:)

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