Unbiased Experiment

Discussion in 'Politics' started by LTSold, Dec 28, 2017.

  1. #21 LTSold, Jan 8, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    16th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on conservative social and political commentator, writer, syndicated columnist, and lawyer Ann Coulter's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed a word for word transcript from 2:35-end of the video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    (typed out dialogue 2:35-end)

    Lou Dobbs: Lastly, on Donald Trump. I say he’s done a terrific job. I know you have some misgivings, and aren’t is….despite the wonderful title of your book, “In Trump We Trust,” I have the feeling that you don’t fully appreciate the obstacles that have been put in front of him.
    • I do believe that’s a sincere and valid question, even though I think she’s trying to push Trump, not betray him.
    Ann Coulter: No, I do, but like I say, there are some tricks, for example, one, I would think, I never read The Art of the Deal. I think it would be in The Art of the Deal.
    • Don’t assume something’s in a book you haven’t read.
    (Ann Coulter continued) Don’t give away a issue that you’re happy to give away, before starting the negotiation. Why did he give up DACA before asking for the wall. Point 1. Point 2: Make the vote on the wall. Oh my gosh, could America be any clearer that we want a wall? And he just walks away without a vote. No, I want to see Republicans and Democrats vote against that wall. If they don’t want the wall, fine, get it on the record.
    • Not much to say there.
    Lou Dobbs: Great to have you with us.

    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Coulter- It does seem the vote is for the wall, but there’s still roadblocks in the way of the process, so it was really important that she end the note there. I don’t believe she thinks the wall won’t be build, I believe she believes the wall will be built quicker if she starts turning on Trump and questioning him.

    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  2. #22 LTSold, Jan 8, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    17th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on conservative social and political commentator, writer, syndicated columnist, and lawyer Ann Coulter's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed a word for word transcript from 0:00-7:22 of the video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    (typed out dialogue and commentary 0:00-7:22)

    Mike Gallagher: Now, you think I’m frustrated about the budget, the spending bill, the lack of money for the border wall. How about the author, “In Trump We Trust?” E Pluribus awesome. NYT’s best selling author and very courageous in the way she spotlighted the utter intolerance of the left. The radicals who contributed to her not speaking at Berkeley last week, but of course on top of all that, we had Ron Robinson come on the show the other day and say some pretty edgy things about Ann in all of this and we, as you can imagine, wanted to get Ann right back on the Mike Gallagher show and she’s able to join us today. Hello Ann.

    Ann Coulter: Hello

    Mike Gallagher: I love your Twitter. I’m reading it. “Today’s border wall construction update: Miles completed yesterday, 0. Miles completed since inauguration, 0. Next update, tomorrow.” You are pounding away at something the American people are glad you’re relentless on. Let’s get the wall built, right

    • She’s so passionate about saving the country, she will be as relentless as possible.
    Ann Coulter: Yes, and I can’t wait to start showing the progress

    Mike Gallagher: Pictures?

    Ann Coulter: We wanted it to get bigger everyday. I’m looking forward to that and hopefully we’ll start soon

    Mike Gallagher: But they keep insisting, I mean every day you hear Sean Spicer and the president insist it’s going to get done. Are we just running out of patience prematurely Ann?

    Ann Coulter: I don’t think so, and I will say, it’s not because I consider Trump the Emperor God, but I will say this has a lot to do with Washington and why we elected Trump in the first place

    Mike Gallagher: Right.

    Ann Coulter: Trump knows about most things than I do. One thing, at least at this moment, and said before he moved to Washington, and I think I know more about, and that’s how Washington works, so he’s getting that lesson right now. So you know, he’s meeting with all these congressmen and senators smiling and shaking his hand and then they go right back to their offices to try to undermine him.

    • I believe he was fully aware of that before.
    (Ann Coulter continued)This is how Trump emerged as the winning candidate of the republican nomination, but the winning the presidency. Taking states that Republicans haven’t won in 20 years, including Wisconsin, by the way, when Paul Ryan was on the ticket. You would think after having seen that if you were Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell or any of the rest of these little (apputions?) that seeing Trump win, and in a big win, on Nov. 8. Nov. 9, they scratch everything off the calendar and set to work, so they can present to Trump with a wall bill the day after his inauguration. It would start working on repealing him and helping him with creating jobs and ending these heinous trade deals and limiting the number of foreign workers in to take American jobs, but no, oh my gosh, they go to Washington and it’s Paul Ryan’s agenda and we’re right back to tax cuts. You know, I like tax cuts and I don’t like the govt to take money. I think that’s bad, but I’m really starting to hate tax cuts Mike. This isn’t what Trump was elected for. People who don’t have jobs aren’t worried about taxes. We wanted jobs, a wall, and protecting Americans, and putting Americans first, and OMG they use disastrous Obamacare repeal bill. It is typical, utterly typical, Republican reform. And that is we’re going to keep the whole socialist system, but we’ll give you less free stuff.
    • At this point, it’s only been 6 months.
    (Ann Coulter continued) How do you like that America? As I proposed in a column, with the last disastrous Obamacare life bill they were considering. I mean, it’s more complicated when it comes to how you actually, what portions actually needs to be repealed and so on, but the concept of what needs to be done here, is shockingly simple. Welfare cases are welfare. Those get paid for the way all other, and I’m not being vicious about the welfare cases. Yes, some people are slothful and don’t work, but in the case of health care, some people just have to have a kid who was born with an expensive problem, but no one bears them any ill will, but there’s no reason for us to pay for that as a society by taking out of Ann’s premiums, Mike’s premiums, your listeners premiums. No, let the rest of us who are healthy and can afford to buy our own health insurance, buy health insurance sold on a nationwide free-market.
    • Yes, socialism is for families, not societies. If that mother made good decisions, she will have enough money to take care of that child.
    (Ann Coulter continued) The reason health insurance is so expensive and the reason young people don’t buy it, is because the most corrupt entities in the universe, state insurance commissions, they control what every insurance plan has to cover. Obamacare just took it to a higher level to do it nationally, so across the country, state after state they require, some of them are federal requirements, but a lot of them are state, you can’t buy health insurance unless you’re agreeing to insure against gambling addiction therapy, marital therapy, pediatric dental care, Maternity care. It would be like requiring people in Florida to buy earthquake insurance, people in Cali to buy hurricane insurance,
    • I’m not sure what scenario is the most ridiculous.
    (Ann Coulter continued) except it’s much, much more expensive. That’s why your insurance premiums are so high, and we know how much it would be on a free market, because we do have, I mean it would be less than $50 month. That’s what it is for all of these Christian...It’s basically health insurance, by law they can’t call it health insurance, but that’s how much it is. If you don’t need maternity care and psychological counceling, and 8 billion other things at least I’m quite sure I will never need.
    • I hope she goes to counseling.
    Mike Gallagher: Alright, Charles Krauthammer said last night on Fox News, the problem with today’s Republicans, is they keep saying, “We’re going to do it next time. Give us ‘till September.” And next time never comes.

    Ann Coulter: Coincidentally, that was the point I made on Hannity and Tucker last week.

    Mike Gallagher: I saw it.

    Ann Coulter: Next time, next time. And I think this is exactly what happened at Berkeley. Well no, you can’t speak this time, but don’t worry, the next conservative speaker will be able….

    Mike Gallagher: We’ll get ‘em next time.

    Ann Coulter: We’re going to have them on the, Berkeley, on the ropes and all we needed to do was file an injunction requiring Berkeley to allow me to speak, unless the judge was Howard Dean, we would’ve won. Berkeley would have had to provide a room, but no no we’ll just sue for damage. The next time. This is the Republican disease. We thought with Trump it was going to be...No we’re winning this time.

    • Even she has the disease, “I want it now!”
    Mike Gallagher: But he’s different, right Ann? Don’t you think if anybody runs out of patience, it’ll be him? Don’t ya.

    Ann Coulter: Yeah, I certainly haven’t given up hope on resulting him.

    • She just wants to push him like all of these smug liberals and trashy Republicans are! But I believe that she still believes in Trump.
    Mike Gallagher: Right

    Ann Coulter: And exalting his promises from that magnificent campaign, but I think he’s really being undermined as has happened to great men before. And I think he’s learning what Washington is like, and as soon as we get back to the Trump promises, as soon as you do something popular, as soon as you want to do something that makes the democrats look really, really bad, and the weak knee Republicans. Force a vote on the wall. Democrats would be terrified to vote against a wall

    Mike Gallagher: You’re exactly right.


    My Response:

    1st impression: Agreeing with Ann- The best part is that she’s right and the second best part is that she didn’t sugarcoat anything. She’s definitely not dumb enough to think president Trump would be as far as building the wall within the first six months, but she’s setting that expectation so it will move along faster. On health care, she couldn’t be more right. We’re not responsible for anybody else but ourselves and families and Ann talked about it not scared of looking like an emotionless bitch, but she’s not, she’s just being real.

    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  3. #23 LTSold, Jan 8, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    I know what ICE is. I must've had a brain freeze.

    18th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on conservative social and political commentator, writer, syndicated columnist, and lawyer Ann Coulter's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed a word for word transcript from 2:53-7:35 of the video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    (Typed dialogue and commentary is 2:53-7:35)

    Josh Elliott: Your perspective, which regard to immigration, it’s on Youtube. It’s an issue you argue in the book (In Trump We Trust), but have argued very strongly, has catapulted Trump….

    Ann Coulter: Oh yes.

    Josh Elliott: To the success that he’s felt. Now we’re hearing reports, however, just in the last couple of days that he still, if nothing has, has still not made up his mind and it would seem to echo reports from months ago that the NYT offered some similar comments off the record

    • Off the record? Since when did off the record become a thing?
    (Josh Elliot continued) that he’s not made up his mind about a cornerstone of his campaign about a use of a deportation force to remove the 11-12 million undocumented….

    Ann Coulter: 30-40 and God bless him. He will not say that it’s 11.

    Josh Elliott: I know you believe it’s far more. I do want you to take a listen to some of the things he said about it and some of the things his new campaign manager Kelly Ann (something) had to say and get you to respond on the other side.

    Clip,
    Donald Trump: We’re rounding them up in a very humane way and a very nice way.

    Donald Trump: You’re going to have a deportation force and you’re going to do it humanely.

    Donald Trump: There are many illegals in the country and we have to get them out.

    Dana Bash: Will that plan include a deportation force. The kind that you just heard in that sound bite and talked about during the Republican Primaries?

    Kellyanne Conway: To be determined.
    Clip ends.


    Josh Elliott: “To be determined.” If he walks back, again a cornerstone of his campaign, what would that do for your support?

    Ann Coulter: I think this is just more of the media propaganda.

    • And the way that it’s cut just screams deception.
    (Ann Coulter continued) This is such a non-story. Look we know the direction he’s going in. We know there’s going to be a wall. What I used to hear for over half the campaign was, “Oh, and he secretly told the NYT there’s not going to be a wall.” Of course there’s give and take in Washington. With Hillary we are getting, as she said, and as Tim Cain has said, totally open borders, complete amnesty, along with a member of my party or my ex party.
    • But why would they want that? Cheap workers?
    (Ann Coulter continued) Paul Ryan, the Speaker of the House, they are both for granting amnesty to millions of illegals. Hillary says she wants to more than quadruple the number of Muslim refugees she’s bringing in. The details of Trump’s plans: we’re getting a wall, he’s gonna let (ice?) do its job.
    • I think she was saying ISIS.
    (Ann Coulter continued) How much he can do without the agreement of congress, whether that’s in the Democrat’s hands or my old Republican party’s hands, of course there’s going to be some give and take in negotiation.
    • Yeah, why aren’t you saying that now?
    (Ann Coulter continued) I’m sure (ice?)
    • Maybe not ISIS
    (Ann Coulter continued) is going to be set free to do its job, but I just think this is an utter tempest in a teapot and only the media can keep introducing the same news as if this was a breaking news story.
    • That’s no secret for all of them.
    (Ann Coulter continued) Yeah, we don’t know the details yet, we know that there’s not going to be amnesty under Trump and we know we’re getting a wall.

    Josh Elliott: So, with regard to the wall specifically, in the book you to argue perhaps the cry for specifics. Policy specifics on the part that Trump, is again, is something that isn’t necessary, in at least this election cycle, but isn’t it reasonable, when you say we’re getting a wall, and specifically, we’re getting a wall and I’m going to get Mexico to pay for it, which is what he said. Isn’t it a reasonable question to ask how?

    Ann Coulter: Well what I’m saying isn’t that we don’t need policy specifics, it’s that that has become a substitute for response, to keep demanding more and more specifics.

    • I will say, it was still pretty early. CNN was just trying to smear this guy.
    (Ann Coulter continued) This isn’t what anybody wants from a presidential candidate. We didn’t want FDR to tell us how landing craft vehicles worked.
    • Now that’s a pretty stretched analogy.
    (Ann Coulter continued) We wanted him to tell us we’re going to war with Hitler. Those are the policies we’re getting and especially, and I go through some detail, what other candidates say, and what we get is these horrid, tired lines that don’t tell us anything. It’s that people are frustrated. We need to do this and that.
    • Really? This and that? You mean stuff they’re going to do?
    (Ann Coulter continued) Trump has been incredibly specific. He’s going to renegotiate trade deals.

    Josh Elliott: You think he’s been incredibly...that’s all he said. “I’m gonna renegotiate trade deals.”

    Ann Coulter: What’s Hillary gonna do?

    Josh Elliott: Well I…..

    • I thought you were actually going somewhere to show your side. You’re not a very informed debater sir.
    Ann Coulter: What will any Republican do? They never told us and I ran through every one of those debates and what I heard was, “People are frustrated.”

    Josh Elliott: But he has said that

    • Exactly.
    Ann Coulter: And let me tell you about how Amazon does things and the economy has changed.

    Josh Elliott: So you’re saying we’re definitely getting a wall?

    Ann Coulter: Oh, of course.

    Josh Elliott: How? How is he gonna get Mexico to pay for it?

    Ann Coulter: That’s the one thing he’s actually given us specifics on repeatedly over and over again.

    Josh Elliott: Getting Mexico to pay for it?

    Ann Coulter: Yes!

    Josh Elliott: Alright.

    Ann Coulter: It was in his first policy paper, and then, because no one apparently in the media has access to an internet modem, he put out a separate policy expressly on how Mexico pays for the wall

    • I found the paper, I can’t find the date it was published.
    Josh Elliott: I wish we had a lot of time (Next question)
    • No you don’t.
    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Ann- She makes some unnecessary, dumb comments that just come out of left field sometimes, but she is just spitting facts in this one. The dude interviewing was pointing out flaws, but didn’t have anything the back up the shit he had if said about the other opponents. Here again, the liberal media keeps shying away from talking about open borders. It’s really strange.


    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.

     
  4. #24 LTSold, Jan 8, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    19th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on conservative social and political commentator, writer, syndicated columnist, and lawyer Ann Coulter's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed most of the dialogue throughout the whole video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.


    Gregg Hughes: Ann, I wanted to talk about Trump and the wall.

    Jim Norton: Yeah cause I asked her on the break, Trump...Eh I don’t know about the wall thing. Now it actually makes sense.

    • This is a rare example of an individual who wasn’t stubborn enough to change his pov on politics.
    Ann Coulter: Yeah, I actually think it’s the simplest part of his program. The one thing we know we know we’ll get with him. Jim was saying, I think correctly, that he’s not going to get through everything he’s promising.
    • Good she admits that.
    (Ann Coulter continued) You do have to negotiate. He is a good negotiator. The wall is the easier. He doesn’t need a law passed by congress. He’s the commander and chief. It’s already his job to defend the borders; point 1. Point 2: whatever the cost, it’s a deal at any price when you look at how illegals are costing the nation; but point 3, how does he get to pay for it? This is the easiest thing.
    • It might be the EASIEST, but still, nothing’s easy about this. She didn’t necessarily say it was easy, but I think what she’s doing is holding Trump more accountable to this promise, so if he doesn’t people will say, “You couldn’t even accomplish the easiest task in the world? You’re like a great salesman who takes the money, but keeps the product.”
    (Ann Coulter continued) We send Mexico billions of $ in foreign aid. We’re giving them $. I know, stop giving them that money and use it to build the wall, but what he says in his immigration, and that’s my suggestion in “!Adios America!” What he says in his immigration policy paper is so much smarter because he raises the issue up. He says we’re going to start taxing remittances. Mexican legals and illegals, especially illegals, send from American $ back to Mexico 20 billion $ a year, which immediately goes into Carlos Slim’s pocket. He owns 40% of the American companies on the stalk exchange. Who saved the NYT from bankruptcy? Carlos Slim. That’s why the NYT can’t be trusted on immigration. He’s the richest man in the world. He’s often ranked.
    • It does seem like a good reason not to trust him, but once we get to the point where we start to think like this, we’re going to start assuming people's integrity based on who they’ve affiliated with in the past.
    Sherrod Small: He’s up there.

    Ann Coulter: You can’t trust the NYT on immigration. They were saved from bankruptcy by a guy who makes his money off of illegal immigration to the US.

    • Is there proof that they’ll lie to protect him though. That’s the question. They’ll probably be biased, but will they lie. Just like you Ann. You’ll be biased, but will you lie?
    (Ann Coulter continued) And that $ is being sent. Just money vacuumed out of the American economy. Money that can be spent on houses or tips or hiring American gardeners. It’s sucked out and sent to Mexico. And that’s why I’m glad Trump mentioned it in his immigration policy paper, because it gets people aware of something that the media won’t talk about.

    Sherrod Small: We should tax that

    Ann Coulter: Yeah, well that’s what he says he’s going to use to build the wall, plus the foreign aid we send them. That is the simplest part of his program.

    Jim Norton: So basically one way he’s going to pay for it with their money is subtracting it. Like “We’re going to give you a billion. The wall costs $500 million, so you get $500 million, so technically they are paying for it.

    • The great thing about being willing to be open about things, think logically, and not being forced to speak about the same subject for 45 minutes at times, is that you can break it down like this and you’re done.
    Ann Coulter: Right.

    Jim Norton: Okay. Makes sense.

    Gregg Hughes: That makes total sense.

    • Pretty good.
    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Ann- She really does a good job explaining politics to people that doesn’t know a lot about it. Not saying these guys don’t, just generally. We do give Mexico a lot of $, but there has to but many consequences to just cease giving the money. It just seems oversimplified, but either way, it seems to be for the greater good. What she said about the NYT didn’t seem fair.

    Not that this happened, but let’s say Trump gave 500k to her just because he liked her support of his campaign so much. Not that she asked for it, just because he believed in her. In 2016, before she criticised Trump about the progress of the wall, what if someone said, “You cannot trust Ann Coulter about anything on the wall. He gave her money and she has a biased towards him. Don’t listen to her.” It doesn’t seem fair.

    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  5. #25 LTSold, Jan 9, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    20th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on conservative social and political commentator, writer, syndicated columnist, and lawyer Ann Coulter's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed most of the dialogue throughout the whole video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.


    Lars Larson: On the phone with me right now is a good friend, Ann Coulter, the syndicated columnist and the best-selling author of in “Trump We Trust: E Pluribus Awesome,” although, reading from her last couple of columns, especially the one today, she’s not giving Donald Trump any breaks at this point. She’s saying you got to build the wall. They don’t call it the great tweet of China and Ann, I think you’re exactly right, but what I can’t figure out is how Donald Trump has gone the 243 days you talk about and hasn’t done any of those things. Was he never serious about the wall to begin with?

    Ann Coulter: I think he was, I mean the plus side about Donald Trump is he has great instincts. I think we’re often suspicious of politicians, but I think Donald Trump is someone you could throw a glass of cold water on in the middle of the night and ask them, “What do we do about NAFTA? Should we build a wall? What should we do with dreamers?” And you would get the right answer. Most politicians would not, but would figure out, “Uh-oh, better not say that.”

    • Too much crap to lose to say the wrong thing, but what does Trump have to lose?
    (Ann Coulter continued) His instincts and his heart, going back years, he’s been good on amnesty, he’s been good on the wall, he’s been good on protecting Americans and American jobs, but we know the downside of Trump, which we saw and was hoping it wouldn’t interfere with his stewardship of our country, are his massive personal insecurities and he’s just surrounded himself with the worst people you could possibly get.
    • Ego.
    (Ann Coulter continued) We only know from reporting
    • Hahaha, not the media, “reporting.” Fox News.
    (Ann Coulter continued) that he wants them to look right and he thinks it’s cool to have generals around him and oh these guys are billionaires, but you know that I’ve pointed out in other columns, Kim Kardashian is a billionaire. Only someone who is that massively insecure is an impressive fact in and of itself. Take someone like Gary Cohen of Goldman Sachs, he’s a billionaire from destroying the economy.
    • “Ann’s a Republican, you know who else are Republicans? Nazis!”
    (Ann Coulter continued) He’s one out of the probably 5 or 10 people who were mostly responsible for the mortgage crash in 2008 and we the taxpayers ended up making him (whole no?) Wall Street can take these bets if it’s profitable, they get 100% of the profit. If they get the wrong bets, oh sorry, that’s where you come in taxpayer. So he has all these, I mean has more Goldman Sachs people than Bush or Obama did, which is baffling. Wall Street hated him even more than they hate most Republicans. He owes them nothing. I was thinking about this as indicated in the column seeing instantly after a hurricane and appropriately he’s down, handing out cheese at the food banks and sending in the FEMA aid and shaking up Congress. We gotta do this right away. Well yeah in the 2 hurricanes, less than 200 people died. If you take every hurricane and every death from a hurricane, you can’t count the indirect deaths because the media loves to drive the numbers up and some people are going to die when Kane is in town. It could just be a heart attack he was going to have anyway. So you can’t count the indirect deaths, but all deaths from a hurricane. I am counting tree branches falling because of the hurricane or drowning because of the hurricane, it came to, I forget what it was…..

    Lars Larson: 3 hundred and some odd in the last 30 years.

    Ann Coulter: Yeah, 332 in 12 years we we know from a government that refuses to tell us,

    • Can’t find this on Google, but just skimmed it.
    (Ann Coulter continued) but thanks to “!Adios America,” I’ve teased some of these statistics out. About 350,000 illegal immigrants are in state and local jails and prisons alone, not including the federal prisons, and about 3500 for murder. The average time for a murder is 6 years, so that’s already 7000 dead Americans because of illegal immigration at the same time period as only 300 odd Americans have died because of hurricanes and you throw in the 30,000 deaths from heroin and Fentanyl. 100% of heroin in America these days comes from Mexico. More than 90% of the fake Sentinel comes from Mexico. Over now at 37,000 deaths, so why isn’t he treating the crisis on the border 200x the emergency, urgency of the hurricane.
    • I looked up “how many illegal immigrants comes across the border compared to everywhere else” and I couldn’t find anything. I would imagine over 90%.
    (Ann Coulter continued) We thought that he understood all this and he would behave this way and I will say again because you will hear lies about this over and over again. He doesn’t need congress. This is the military’s job: to build border walls, fortresses, cannon holders on our border. The job of our country isn’t to keep other countries safe. It is to keep our country safe and for most of the military’s existence, this is why we have an army Corps of Engineers. This is why we have the Seabees. They go around building stuff mostly on our border.
    • This is just a theory. Maybe we help other countries because we get paid an enormous amount. And since we’re in so much debt, this is our primary source of income. I finally understand why war is $
    Lars Larson: Right

    Ann Coulter: Fort McHenry, we wouldn’t have the “Star-Spangled Banner,” but for the Governor of Maryland having the foresight building a wall and a fortress of cannons known as Fort McHenry, which protected Baltimore right after the British torched Washington DC and they would have made their way straight up the eastern seaboard, but for the great battle where they were stopped at Fort McHenry, this is what our military is supposed to be doing, they’re not supposed to be dying for no point in Afghanistan. Even if there were a point, they’re not supposed to be building walls to protect Jordan from Syria. They’re supposed to be building walls to protect our country. He’s the Commander in Chief. As I say at the end, he’s not going to get out of this by blaming Congress or tweeting funny things about Hillary Clinton or nasty attacks on the media. He’s got to build the wall and nothing else matters.

    • Nothing? Oh yeah, she’s trying to motivate Trump, but don’t say NOTHING else matters. That just sounds dumb.
    Lars Larson: Well in fact the point that you made, if he used the Seabees and the Corps of Engineers and say do it, in a way, it would be legal and similar to what Obama did, because Obama realized if DACA as an executive order, when the next administration comes in, even if they try to unwind it, the fait accompli of putting it in place, makes it 10x harder to get rid of it, because you can say, “well gosh, people are here.”
    • I think he’s trying to say, while agreeing with her, that there’s more than his level of order to build the wall. Like this seeps into the branch below.
    Ann Coulter: Well similar in a sense, but I would not draw the comparison, because you do here, this isn’t what you’re doing, but you do hear this on TV that there’s this implication that there’s something shady about executive orders by the top. No, a legitimate executive order is a precedent of all 3 branches of government. The executive is 100% of the power of that branch of government is held by a single man. With Congress, it’s every member of Congress. With Judiciary, it’s probably more than 1,000 federal judges, oh plus bankruptcy judges.
    • That power being held by one man doesn’t seem like a good idea.
    (Ann Coulter continued) Only the Executive branch. One Commander in Chief, one man who is the Executive, so yes there are legitimate and appropriate executive orders, but the important point I think you were making is anything Trump does on immigration is going to be overturned by the next president, whether it’s a Republican or a Democrat.

    Lars Larson: Unless it’s a wall. If it’s a wall….

    Ann Coulter: A wall is forever.

    Lars Larson: That’s what I’m saying. If you did it as a fait accompli and said look, the seabees are building it, and by the next administration whenever that is. 2020, 2024 comes in, it could say….

    Ann Coulter: They’re not going to knock it down….

    Lars Larson: No, they’re not going to knock it down or knock holes in it and he could do that.

    • Haha, you really never know though.
    (Lars Larson continued) And what surprises me is he stood up to his daughter and said no, I’m pulling out of Paris. Well at least now he’s out of Paris. He stood up to the President of Mexico and said, “I am not going to go to the American people and tell them we’re not building a wall,” and yet with his own people, that are his employees, he’s apparently not standing up to them.
    • Maybe because it’s the people he listens to and this isn’t as black and white as this conversation is. I’m sorry Ann, you’re trying to motivate Trump. Continue.
    Ann Coulter: No, I know, it’s utterly baffling and we keep starting the clock on, as I did, January 21st, his 1st day as president of the US, but as of Nov. 9th, he knew he had won the election. This nonsense about, “Oh I am interviewing architects,” that should’ve started on Nov. 10th.
    • Keep it up Ann. It seems to be the right thing to do, even though it’s not black and white, because that’s the only thing people think about these days no pun intended.
    Lars Larson: (laughs) You’re absolutely right. Her book is called “In Trump We Trust E Pluribus Awesome,” soon to have new appendices probably added to it, and her columns are, no but one of the things I admire about you is you and I think I try to do this as well, you stick to your guns and if you say Trump’s going to give us a wall and if he doesn’t, you don’t try to make excuses for him.
    • It also wouldn’t be in her best interest.
    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Ann- She’s really laying it down on Trump. The man’s a busy guy and has a bunch of crap to deal with, but that’s still no excuse. He made a BOLD statement when he brought up the wall. He said it with fierceness and passion. He is Commander in Chief, but I’m not sure if he has 100% power over this one. Yes, I understand the branches of government, but this seems to run into at least Legislative. But nonetheless, Ann should keep doing what she’s doing to keep people talking.


    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  6. maybe try inputting your stance to the discussions happening instead of...whatever this is?
     
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  7. I am more conservative than liberal. Going into this about 2 months ago, I didnt know too much about politics, so I'm picking random topics and political pundits and critiqing them will logic, comical commentary, and facts I learn along the way. The pundit right now is Ann Coulter and the topic is Trump's border wall, so I'll critique every article and video on anything related to Ann Coulter talking about the Trump proposed border wall.

    I hope that explained it a little more. There's quite a few rules put into place on how I do these, because I am a very systematic person. I am passionate about these and my main goal is to show how my viewpoints change over the course of in-depth critiquing these pundits and articles. I do spend a few hours on each one.

    Sorry, I have a hard time explaining this for some reason haha.
     
  8. #28 LTSold, Jan 10, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    21st Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I copied and pasted 0:26-4:51 of the transcript from the website and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and Bill O'Reilly's rhetorical performance is in black text.

    Original link,
    O'Reilly: If Sanctuary City Mayors Don't Cooperate, Trump Should Cut Federal Fund Immediately

    O'Reilly: If Sanctuary City Mayors Don't Cooperate, Trump Should Cut Federal Fund Immediately
    Posted By Tim Hains
    On Date January 27, 2017


    (transcript and my commentary 0:26-4:51)

    BILL O'REILLY: With President Trump signing executive orders to build the wall on the southern border and threatening sanctuary cities with a funding penalty, all hell is breaking loose.

    • This guy. This is proof that you can have the same ideological beliefs, but really dislike a person.
    Many on the left simply do not want immigration law enforced.

    The cold truth is they want anarchy, they believe that everyone has a right to come to America for whatever reason.

    • They have their reasons man. They don’t want anarchy. This is just like them calling the right neo-nazi’s. It’s very, very rarely true. The kind of talk like this is why there’s such a divide. This doesn’t come off as trolling either. This just comes off as, “If you don’t believe this, you’re a horrible person who wants hate.” The same exercise the left pulls.
    Some of these people advocate open borders with no restrictions on traveling to the USA.

    Some of them believe that the poor must be accommodated in every way.

    And some people who support illegal immigration do so for political reasons.

    Logic dictates if America's immigration laws are unfair, then Congress should change them.

    But right now Talking Points believes what we have is reasonable.

    You apply to come to the USA, and your application is either accepted or rejected.

    If you simply show up with no papers, you are violating U.S. law.

    • Okay, that’s saying it in a brutally honest fashion. Totally different.
    Yet Governor Jerry Brown of California, Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York and Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, just to name a few, say they will not obey immigration law.

    That of course is a violation of their sworn oath to uphold the laws of the United States.

    • So they believe in it so much, they risk losing it all? They must REALLY believe that this isn’t the way to do it. Are you exaggerating a bit Bill?
    So there really isn't any legal argument; it's all about theory and politics.
    • Yeah, like your show.
    President Trump campaigned on ending the illegal alien madness.
    • Keywords: “Madness. Anarchy. Logic….Okay, logic wasn’t a bad one. Bill, you are the reason people hated Fox News so much. You criticized without explaining. Like a parent spanking their children without explaining to them why what they did was wrong.
    So let's take a look at what he wants to do:

    Right now there are 654 miles of fencing along the southern border with Mexico.

    That leaves 1,300 miles of border without a barrier.

    Mr. Trump is going to expand the fencing and rename it a wall.

    • Why am I hearing this first from you after hours and hours of watching debates on this topic?
    It will not be constant -- there are areas that don't need barriers, natural barriers prevent crossings.
    • It seems like common sense, but that’s not in abundance right now, so I’m glad he touched on this. It needs to be mentioned more.
    The primary reason a wall is needed is that tons of narcotics are being smuggled from Mexico into the USA.

    That is a scandal and Mexico will not stop it blaming the U.S. for drug consumption.

    • Name names Bill. Speaking from someone who has similar ideologies to you, you’re more toxic to what I believe than someone who has polar opposite beliefs than me. I can debate them, but you just come off as an asshole who generalizes everything and make my beliefs look stupid. I guess it didn’t help to watch Tucker Carlson and Ann Coulter before you.
    But it is clear that Mexico is a passive partner in the drug and people smuggling industries, therefore they should pay for at least part of the wall.
    • Okay, good. See, now that’s being brutally honest. I know it’s hard to tell the difference, but good job Bill.
    I mean here's how bad it is.

    The Mexican drug lord el Chapo is here in New York City right now because the Mexican government cannot put him on trial.

    He escaped twice from Mexican prisons -- the most notorious criminal in the country escaped twice.

    The sad truth is Mexico is corrupt and cannot stop the drug cartels from doing their evil business, and will not stop millions of migrants from crossing its territory and entering into the USA illegally.

    Again, that's Mexico's fault.

    So if a barrier stops some of the drugs, why would anybody object to that?

    • There are other arguments. Not that I agree with them.
    And today President Trump suggested Mexico may have to pay a 20% tariff to fund the wall.

    This is all way too much for the Mexican president.

    He cancelled a meeting next week with President Trump, who addressed the issue this afternoon.

    TRUMP: “The president of Mexico and myself have agreed to cancel our planned meeting schedule for next week. Unless Mexico is going to treat the United States fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless, and I want to go a different route.”

    • Sounds to me like Trump canceled it.
    It really doesn't matter who cancelled what. What does matter is that last year 560 pounds of heroin were confiscated on the Mexican border, five hundred sixty pounds.
    • Damn, so my guy’s not flakin’ on me.
    And that's just a fraction of what got through.

    As you may know 50,000 people died in 2015 from drug overdoses.

    • As many as hurricanes. (Ann Coulter reference.)
    By the way, more than 8,000 pounds of methamphetamine was confiscated at the border.
    • Dang Bill! You just hit us with the 560 pounds of heroin. “Bill O’Reilly here and I want to talk to you about this amazing offer to build a great, big, shiny wall between Mexico and the US. Last week alone there was 560 pounds of heroin confiscated at the border. Yikes! You wanna rid those grimy little mad anarchists? Well don’t worry. For the small price of 19.95 billion dollars, you can have the life of feeling safe from having to deal with those pesky drugs……...But wait, there’s more! Are you scared of Meth? You should be! More than 8,000 pounds of METH was confiscated at the border! YIKITYYIKES! But don’t be afraid gang, because for this special offer of 2017, we’re going to have Mexico slash that price down 20%, because you deserve it. Order today. Wall might be repealed by Congress and Mexico might say go fuck yourself.
    So again, if you object to a wall designed to prevent drugs from being smuggled here, what is your rationale?
    • I don’t know!? You must be an idiot to not want to keep drugs out. I bet all of the members of Congress who are against the wall will be drugless without the illegals. Yeah…..
    My Response:

    1st Impression: Disagree with O’Reilly- Now don’t get me wrong, I’m for the wall, but this guy is on the border of being troll-worthy. I don’t think he is though. He gets good ratings because elder conservatives in buttfuck nowhere who are fucking their mom’s listen to this piece of shit. He gets them riled up. The only time great Grampa Bob is willing enough to move 5 inches is when Bill says, “All these people who oppose the wall want war and meth!” And grampa Bob forces his arm up with a clenched fist full of arthritis to feebly chant “Yeah! Fuck them wetback niggers.” Yeah, so maybe I’m doing the same thing Bill’s doing by assuming, but I’m doing it in a comedic sense. Don’t take me too seriously. He’s doing professional reporting.

    I’m still technically on Bill’s side though.


    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  9. #29 LTSold, Jan 10, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    22nd Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed out a word for word transcript for 3:13-6:37 of the video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    (Dialogue and my commentary 3:13-6:37)

    Bill O’Reilly: Let’s talk about the wall. So the wall is going to go up and the Mexican people, do you believe they oppose that wall?

    Ruben Navarrette: They oppose the wall. Interestingly enough, there’s a gap between Mexican Americans, like to sell an eye on one hand, and Mexicans.
    • Huh?
    (Ruben Navarrett continued) It’s just like Irish Americans and the folks that live in Ireland. It’s a different community of people. Mexican Americans are ambivalent about the wall. It’s not the top of our list, but Mexicans really take offense to it. They see it as an insult as they see it somehow….

    Bill O’Reilly: How can they see it as an insult when they know, cause there’s a free press in Mexico, that the drug cartels are pouring tons of narcotics into America and this wall may help stem that. Why would they be insulted?

    Giselle Fernández: Well there’s insulted because we have a…….

    Bill O’Reilly: Wait, wait, I’ll get to you Giselle in a minute. Go ahead.
    • I would believe it if him and Trump turned out to be brothers.
    Ruben Navarrette: I think that the polls showed some skepticism from Americans. They don’t think the wall is going to stop the drug cartels, because they know the cartels built these sophisticated tunnels underneath the wall.

    Bill O’Reilly: Okay, well you gotta try. Go ahead Giselle. You say?
    • Why does he stick to this one argument? There’s several other uses for the wall to debate about.
    Giselle Fernández: I was going to say, I think it’s ironic that we’re going to build a Berlin-style wall when we sent a Republican president to the Brandenburg gates to say Mr. (?) tear down that wall.

    Bill O’Reilly: Okay, but you know with the cartels. We all know that the Mexican drug cartels are causing an enormous problem inside the US with the heroin, meth, and cocaine. The wall’s designed to stem that problem. Why would the Mexican citizens object to that?

    Giselle Fernández: Well, for the #1 reason, we had a president who demanded that another leader of a sovereign nation pay for it. It was very undignified. It was very undiplomatic.
    • And it was badass. I’ll let you get the last word in.
    Bill O’Reilly: Was Mexico not responsible for controlling drug cartels?

    Giselle Fernández: And it was very insulting. I think the way you frame this Bill, is long partisan lines, and that’s what I take offense to, and let me tell you why. Because I think it’s reflective of why Mexicans also take offense. We’re talking, first of all, that there’s an assumption that there’s all these Mexicans who are crossing the border, which has not been the case, in fact, there’s reverse….

    Bill O’Reilly: We have to stay on the cartels, if you would. This is a big problem here. Stay on the cartels.

    Giselle Fernández: (As he was talking on last line) There’s reverse migration as you know. The cartels, we are the….it is a big problem.
    • Wouldn’t the cartels be a big percentage of the people going back into Mexico? And the border wall itself is just to be a border wall, not to insult. To fix many problems.
    Bill O’Reilly: The Mexican government cannot control the drug cartels. We all know that. Established fact. In fact, the cartel are gunning down Mexican journalists like crazy. And politicians.
    • I believe he reads some facts 10 minutes before he debates and that’s it.
    (Bill O’Reilly continued) So we on the American side, say we don’t want all these narcotics, and we hope the wall is going to stop some of it, yet you object to the wall? I don’t get it.
    • I heard injecting babies with crack would make them less likely to be addicted to crack when they’re older.
    Giselle Fernández: No I think that Mexicans reject the idea of a Berlin-style wall and they do not think….they do not think…(Bill interrupts)

    Bill O’Reilly: It doesn’t matter what style wall it is. It’s called the drugs are coming from Cartels inside of Mexico that the government can’t control.

    Giselle Fernández: And the US consumption is driving that

    Bill O’Reilly: So it’s a consumption problem, it’s not a Mexican problem.

    Giselle Fernández: It is a consumption problem. We also have guns going more south than we have Mexicans coming across.

    Ruben Navarrette: It’s not Mexico’s problem

    Giselle Fernández: No, it is. It’s our problem together.
    • Does it matter? So if it’s a US consumption problem, wouldn’t that be more of a reason to build the wall?
    Bill O’Reilly: I’m running out of time. We’ll have you both back.

    Ruben Navarrette: Mexico doesn’t see this as its problem. It’s an American consumption problem, it’s also….

    Bill O’Reilly: So Mexico doesn’t see violent drug cartels smuggling drugs into Mexico, killing Mexicans at a record rate is a problem.

    Ruben Navarrette: Because when they stop, the drugs start going to the US. They start staying in Mexico and the Mexicans start becoming addicted to the drugs. This has already been tried and the Mexicans don’t like it.
    • That’s the moment he knew…...he fucked up.
    Bill O’Reilly: So they want the drugs to come into the USA and not be in Mexico.

    Ruben Navarrette: Let’s say they don’t want the drugs staying in Mexico.
    • Yeah, I can get behind that.
    Bill O’Reilly: They don’t really want to solve the problem, because if they did, the Mexicans would’ve solved it.
    • Great closer O’Sherlock.
    (Bill O’Reilly continued) That was a really good debate. I hope you guys come back, because we really want to figure out what’s going on in Mexico as far as the wall, the cartel, and immigration.
    • Hopefully not with you 3.
    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Bill- No facts, just emotion. People talking over each other. The woman was probably the best debater out of the 3, but they all looked ridiculous. Bill, at the end, won because of the dumbass who basically said the US shouldn’t build a wall because Mexicans will become addicted to drugs instead of Americans. Congrats Bill! You officially beat 2 clowns at a debate.

    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  10. #30 LTSold, Jan 11, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    23rd Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I copied and pasted the written article and the pictures within the article and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    Article starts,
    Donald Trump tries to convince Bill O'Reilly that his Mexican border wall is 'peanuts' compared to the Great Wall of China

    Colin Campbell
    Aug. 5, 2015, 9:33 AM

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    Fox News host Bill O'Reilly repeatedly and incredulously pressed Donald Trump during a Tuesday night interview on how the presidential candidate would fund his proposed wall along the US-Mexican border.
    • I guess he changed his pov since then.

    But the Republican real-estate mogul deflected O'Reilly's call for specifics and compared his "simple" proposal to the Great Wall of China.

    "So simple. So simple,"

    • O’Reilly Don?
    Trump said of how he would defend his wall plan in this week's debate. "You know the Great Wall of China, built a long time ago, is 13,000 miles. I mean, you're talking about big stuff. We're talking about peanuts, by comparison, to that. Mexico will pay for the wall. I will make sure it gets done properly."

    O'Reilly was unconvinced, asking how he'd convince the Mexican government and President Enrique Peña Nieto to pay for the plan.

    "But how!" the Fox host exclaimed. "What are you going to do to Nieto? What are you going to say to him? 'Hey, you have to pay for the wall to the tune of $2 billion.' He's going to say, 'Hey, forget it!'"

    • I actually believe that’s what they said.

    But Trump wouldn't budge, and the two attempted to talk over one another. Trump, who has based much of his campaign platform on a promise to halt illegal immigration, continued to insist that the Mexican government would simply fold under pressure.

    "Bill. Bill. Bill. They're making a fortune. Mexico is making a fortune in the United States. It's becoming the new China in terms of trade. They're killing at us at the border. I have a lot of respect for Mexico. I have hundreds — actually, thousands — of Mexicans that have worked for me over the years," he said.


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    "I'm going to say, 'Mexico, guess what? This is not going to continue. You're going to pay for the wall,'" Trump added. "I've said that they're going to pay for the wall, and they will pay for the wall."
    • I completely understand why people hate him. haha

    As an aside, a skeptical O'Reilly then returned to the Great Wall topic and asked Trump if he knew who the Chinese dynasties that built the wall were trying to keep out of their country.

    "Lots of people that they didn't want," Trump said.

    "No, no, no," O'Reilly replied. "The Mongol hordes. So that might come up tomorrow [at the debate.] And you credit me for giving you that answer if you use the Great Wall deal."

    • Not bad Bill. Not bad at all.
    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Bill- Okay, so this didn’t sway my view on the wall at all, but in this context, Bill had every reason to not believe Trump. Trump was just talking like he read one Breitbart article about immigration and went on TV to complain about illegals. Bill completely changed his viewpoint later on probably because he worked for Fox.


    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  11. Do yourself a favor and forget any of these knuckledraggers in the mainstream media, look into people who actually have a political philosophy.

    You could spend your life critiquing these idiots and not get anywhere.





     
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  12. I have been more lately. I've done about 80 critiques so far, so I've been publishing them to the web in order by date. The earlier ones I did have more of the political puppets than the newer ones. Thank you.
     
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  13. #33 LTSold, Jan 12, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    24th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I copied and pasted the relevant portion of the article and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the article is in black text.

    Link to original article,
    Donald Trump's Pre-Super Bowl Interview with Bill O'Reilly - Highlights from President Donald Trump's Interview with Bill O'Reilly

    Article starts,
    Here Are Some Terrifying Highlights From Trump's Pre-Super Bowl Interview with Bill O'Reilly
    Some of these responses weren't even answers to the questions he was asked.

    by KAYLEIGH ROBERTS FEB 5, 2017


    On paying for the wall:

    When O'Reilly asked how Trump what kind of tariff he would levy on Mexico to pay for his proposed border wall, Trump pivoted, directing the conversation to the loss of American jobs.

    "Well right now it's very unfavorable. Right now we're losing our jobs to Mexico.

    • Typical politician. Avoiding questions.
    You look at the plants, you look at these massive plants and I have to tell you, I've turned it around. Already, I've turned it around. You see that. Ford has been phenomenal. They canceled the plant, they're building tremendous—."
    • If no one told me Trump said this, I’d still know.
    "Yeah, you intimidated them. They're afraid of you," O'Reilly interjected. "You know these companies."

    "I don't know they're afraid, no, no they want to do what's right," Trump insisted.

    O'Reilly doubled down on his point. "They want to do what's right? Why didn't they do what was right in the past? They're afraid of you."

    • Does it matter? It’s not Trump’s fault. Is he accusing him of something? I don’t get it.

    "Because the wrong people spoke to them," Trump said. "But they're gonna do what's right and they're bringing jobs back to Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and all that places that lost their jobs. So that's already happening. I think you're gonna see a tremendous job growth in this country."

    My Response:

    1st Impression: Disagreeing with Bill- I mean, this was short and in written context. There were other sections and I just read the wall section, but I don’t really understand why Bill seems against Trump. He is supposedly in favor of the wall, is also Republican, but he seems to be against Trump here. I would much rather the companies be scared of Trump for the right reasons than the other way around.

    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  14. #34 LTSold, Jan 13, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    25th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I copied and pasted the entire article and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the article is in black text.


    Article starts,
    05/05/2016 05:49 am ET

    Bill O’Reilly Tells Former Mexican President Border Wall Is ‘Actually Humane’
    “It would cut down on people and drug smuggling, two things that injure human beings.”
    By Nick Visser

    The link is a picture, which goes a video, reads,
    O'Reilly Lectures Former President Of Mexico On The "Humane" Benefits Of A Border Wall.
    Bill O'Reilly: "My Hypothesis Is That The Wall Would Save Lives ... [It] Would Be Good For Mexico And The United States"

    Written article starts,
    Fox News host Bill O’Reilly continued his ardent support for a proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border on Wednesday, telling the country’s former president such a structure “is actually humane.”

    O’Reilly told Vicente Fox, who was Mexico’s leader from 2000 to 2006, that the wall — an idea presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump popularized — would “cut down on people and drug smuggling.”
    • He had balls to go against a man that was the president of the country for 6 years.
    Fox argued that measures like a languishing immigration reform act proposed more than a decade ago would actually be better for both countries. But the host wasn’t having it:

    O’Reilly: Patrolled vigilantly on both sides, on both sides, I think a border wall is actually humane. Because it would cut down on people and drug smuggling, two things that injure human beings as you know. So where am I going wrong?

    ...

    My hypothesis is that the wall would save lives, alright? Would be good for Mexico and the United States. Because it would take a lot of the power away from the smugglers, many of whom are cartel members and it would save, you know how people are abused. Poor people trying to get el norte. They are abused by these coyotes. You know that.


    Many political leaders and analysts have lambasted the idea of a border fence ever since Trump first said he’d build a “great, great wall“ and make Mexico pay for it. In February, Fox likened Trump to Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler and said he wouldn’t “pay for that fucking wall.” The former president has since apologized to Trump for his use of profanity.

    But some voters have been listening to the businessman, and a vast majority of his supporters still favor such a proposal.

    Watch the clip above.

    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Bill- Not too much to say here, but I agree on his stance. He’s not very good at arguing it according to this article, but he’s not horrible. He does make a good point on the scary things they have to encounter getting over.

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  15. links are showing up as unsupported for me, but im on mobile...

     
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  16. Huh, weird. It's working on my phone, which is an Android. Do you have a Iphone? Not that that's the reason, but it could be a start for me to figure out the problem. And I'll try it on some other peoples phones tomorrow and mess with it more. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

    And does it only not work when you click on it or can you see what's written on the first page of the PDF before you do?
     
  17. I'm on the GC android app amid the links are unsupported for me too
     
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  18. #38 LTSold, Jan 15, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    26th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed a word for word transcript for 3:53-end of the video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    Video starts,

    Border Patrol Agent: 'We Feel We Now Have a President We Can Trust'

    (dialogue and my commentary 3:53-end)

    Bill O’Reilly: What about the border wall?

    Brandon Judd: The border wall is something that’s extremely important. We’re not talking about a border wall from California down to Texas. We’re talking about a border wall in strategic locations, which will allow us to dictate where illegal immigration takes place or illegal contraband.
    • Good. Finally some talk about the wall in places that makes sense.
    (Brandon Judd continued) Again, we don’t just arrest illegal aliens. We seize vast amounts of drugs that come across the border and we want to dictate where they cross and with border walls, it allows us to dictate where they cross and it allows us to be as successful as possible.

    Bill O’Reilly: Okay, so do you know, does the border patrol have a chart that says, “Look this is where we need the wall. Do you have that already drawn up?
    • Great question Bill.
    Brandon Judd: They’re working on that as we speak. It hasn’t been finalized, but that is being worked on.
    • Shouldn’t they have something? I mean really? I know it’s January 2017, but that’s still 2 months from when Trump became president and it’s not like Mexico and the US hasn’t been 2 separate countries for over 2 centuries.
    Bill O’Reilly: Alright. Do you believe President Trump will build that?

    Brandon Judd: I do believe, yes, I believe he is going to build the wall and I do believe the walls in strategic locations will allow us to be successful and I believe, under this administration that we’ll secure the border.
    • This guy is really watching what he says.
    Bill O’Reilly: We shall see. Thank you.

    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Bill- It seems like he is the best at talking and asking about the strategic locations the walls should be. That’s one thing I didn’t like about Tucker and Ann. The border patrol officer was absolutely no help, and you could kind of see that in O’Reilly’s face.


    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  19. #39 LTSold, Jan 15, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    27th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed a word for word transcript for 0:44-3:13 of the video and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    (my commentary and dialogue 0:44-3:13)

    Bill O’Reilly: You don’t want a border wall. You don’t want that. Why not?

    Jorge Ramos: It’s a complete, absurd idea. Why would you want to build a 1,900 mile long wall between Mexico and the US if almost 40%

    • Yeah, but that’s not even half…..
    (Jorge Ramos continued) of all immigrants come by plane and they overstay their visas, so based on some NYT reports, it would cost about 20 billion dollars,
    • I wish people would debate over the cost more.
    (Jorge Ramos continued) so clearly Mr. Trump’s problems and maybe yours is with Mexicans, not with Canadians. Why would you want a border with Mexico and not with Canada? It really doesn’t make any sense.
    • Dude, come on now. Just debate over the cost. You’d have a better argument.
    (Jorge Ramos continued) It’s a big waste of money.

    Bill O’Reilly: We don’t have an immigration problem with Canada. Now in Israel as you know, because you’re an international reporter, they put up a wall to separate themselves from terrorists: Hamas, infiltrators, this, that. It worked. So the wall would work. It would stop people from infiltrating from Mexico into the US.

    Jorge Ramos: No it won’t.

    Bill O’Reilly: Now….

    Jorge Ramos: It won’t because they’re coming by plane.

    • 60% are not according to you.
    (Jorge Ramos continued) Bill, first of all

    Bill O’Reilly: We’ll deal with that in another way, but millions of people have come across that border. Most notably here recently, the man who killed Kate Steinle, who came across that border 6 times. That means we have no security in the US when a low-life drug pusher like that, Sanchez, can come across 6 times, so for the benefit for the people who would like to be safe, for Kate Stanley’s family, I think we need to put up the wall.

    • I don’t really like this method of debating, but the other guy isn’t being rational either, so oh well.
    Jorge Ramos: Well first of all, the problem with undocumented immigrants has been sterilized. In other words, it’s been about 11 million people for the last 6 years. Now, you’re talking about Kate. Let me say something first of all. I think my condolences to Kate’s family. As a father, I can’t even imagine what they are going through, and as Kate’s brother said yesterday in this show; the system failed. Having said that, that’s why they’re suing the county and the city of San Francisco

    Bill O’Reilly: Yeah, that’s right. And the system has failed.

    Jorge Ramos: This is where we have a difference between you and me. I don’t think that what you’re proposing is going to work. The only thing that will work is Comprehensive Immigration Reform….

    Bill O’Reilly: And we respect your opinion.

    Jorge Ramos: With background checks for everyone. Background checks, so after you legalize about 11 million undocumented, then the police can concentrate…...

    Bill O’Reilly: We respect your opinion that you don’t think...Jorge, Jorge.

    Jorge Ramos: On the real criminals

    Bill O’Reilly: We respect your opinion you don’t think it will work. I think it will work.


    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Bill- He wasn’t so bad this time. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform is an interesting idea, but it seems implausible. With the Kate situation, you can’t use one scenario to make decisions on something this broad, it’s just irrational, but arguing that it doesn’t make sense that Mexico has to have a border and Canada doesn’t, doesn’t make much sense either, so……..

    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     
  20. #40 LTSold, Jan 15, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
    28th Critique
    In this critique, I focus on journalist, author, and television host Bill O'Reilly's views on Donald Trump's proposed border wall. These critiques are for you all and myself to learn from and to better understand multiple perspectives over time, but be warned, some of my comments can be offensive. I typed a word for word transcript of the video in its entirety and gave my opinion throughout. My commentary is in red text and the dialogue is in black text.

    • You have to give bill credit for debating the former Mexican president himself, who was president for 6 years. That takes guts.
    Bill O’Reilly: A personal story statement tonight. You may remember this statement from the former president of Mexico, Mr. Vicente Fox, about Trump’s promise to make Mexico pay for a border wall

    Cuts over to Mr. Fox being interviewed by someone else,
    Vicente Fox: I declare, I’m not paying for that fucking wall. He should pay for it. He’s got the money.
    • Whether he has the money or not doesn’t make it a valid reason.
    Cuts back to O’Reilly interview,
    Bill O’Reilly:
    Earlier in the program, Mr. Fox heard Donald Trump reiterate, he’s going to try to make Mexico pay for the border wall. The president joins us from Los Angeles. So, here’s my take on this and tell me where I’m wrong. Patrolled vigilante on both sides, I think a border wall is actually humane, because it would cut down on people and drug smuggling. 2 things that injure human beings as you know, so where am I going wrong?

    Vicente Fox: (Well really Fox and numbers Bill?) are totally different to what is being said. And I think it’s very that what I had invited you to come to Mexico, but more so, I think it’s very important to invite Donald Trump to Mexico and learn about the real Mexico, that is, I think totally different. For instance, I was listening that he says Mexico there’s punishment because of the deficit the US has on the trade violence with Mexico, (is just his right?) is 50 million, but does he know that the deficit with China is 400 million?
    • And that makes it justified?
    Bill O’Reilly: Yeah, he knows Mr. President. He’s threatened them too. Believe me. He knows it.

    Vicente Fox: Does he know that the deficit of Europe….

    Bill O’Reilly: But look, let’s get back to the wall. Let’s get back to the wall. My hypothesis is, that the wall would save lives, alright. Would be good for Mexico and the US, because it would take a lot of the power away from the smugglers, many of whom are cartel members and it would save...You know how people are abused. Poor people trying to get el norte. They’re abused by the coyotes. You know that. This wall would not stop it entirely, but cut drug smuggling and people smuggling down, so why don’t both countries support this?

    Vicente Fox: That is true. (There?) are less costly walls. One is to approve the initiative that the migration bill that has been sitting in US congress for 10 years now presented by Senator McCain and Senator Kennedy. That bill brings a solution to migration. A solution to illegal or undocumented….

    Bill O’Reilly: But it’s not going to go until the wall...The American people in every poll Mr. President have made it clear that they’re not going to support anything until they get the wall up to stop the millions of people coming in. Now the demographics have changed. Under your, you were in office for 6 years, that’s the term.

    Vicente Fox: Yes sir.

    Bill O’Reilly: About 8 million of citizens, while you were president, came here to the US. That’s a lot for us to absorb here. 8 million people.

    Vicente Fox: It’s okay what you say and everybody’s working on it. Let me tell you that this flow of migration has reversed in the last 3 years.

    Bill O’Reilly: Yeah, economics have reversed it.

    Vicente Fox: More people are coming back to Mexico. Less people going to the US. Because now we’re building the opportunities in Mexico for them.

    Bill O’Reilly: That’s all well and good, but that could reverse itself if there’s another recession. Do you Mr. President, that in federal court, 37% of all the sentences handed out, are handed out to illegal aliens. Not to just Mexicans. Illegal aliens across the board. 37%. Do you know what a burden that is on a US taxpayer and the Criminal Justice System?

    Vicente Fox: I’m with you. I’m not for open borders.
    • Y’all don’t want to pay for a fucking wall.
    (Vicente Fox continued) What I mean when I speak about the bill in Congress to deal with this problem on an intelligent and wise way. That’s one thing to do. The other one is; pay for the wall. Why? Who’s going to pay for the war on trade. The war on China’s trade (with the?) US. Imagine a US citizen paying 40% more for the car he’s buying today.
    • Paying for the wall and the logistics of it is the 2 biggest arguments. I’m confused on what he’s trying to say here though.
    Bill O’Reilly: Well I’d like to see a compromise here.

    Vicente Fox: That’s the way the world works.

    Bill O’Reilly: I think that Mexico and the US could work together on an effective barrier,

    Vicente Fox: Yes.

    Bill O’Reilly: Which would help your country and our country and I think we could come to an arrangement. Thank you.
    • Okay, umm….I’m glad we could come to an agreement LOL.
    My Response:

    1st Impression: Agreeing with Bill- The ex-president was obviously told to try to sway the conversation away from the wall and talk about mostly nonsense. Mostly, because he did come up with a few constructive lines. It does frustrate me though, when logic is just thrown out the window and this whole shtick I’m doing here just ends up being a roast session and just a complete waste of time.

    Of course we’re not building the wall to insult Mexicans, but to protect our borders. Of course the flow of illegals will fluctuate, but we still need to secure our borders. Of course.

    Critique by Jacob Taylor aka LTSold.
     

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