Trump "greatest con artist in the history of the world"

thats pretty standard isn't it? Almost like he is told to post what he posts. Funny huh? He's not here for debate because he can't debate. Does not have the ability. Spend too much time learning how great socialism is instead of learning how to communicate effectively with people.

 

yeah I'm sure the morons who read huffington post don't believe it, because all they read is anti-trump propaganda. Its those people who when they actually experience what is really happening in the REAL world, those are the people who say...wait...but CNN...but MSNBC.....THEY ARE LYING?!?!?!?!?!
Yes comrade, they are lying. And you have bought it hook, line and sinker. no doubt.

 

I haven't seen anything you have typed up that I would qualify as "well thought out" or "eloquent".

 

A lot of cut and paste though

 

almost on cue...

 

Obama was a greater con artist, as Trump has a hard time keeping his trap shut and only his hardcore fanatics were fooled, the rest either seeing right through him or holding their nose through it to get Republican policies. Obama conned both his supporters AND opponents into thinking he was some anti-war, anti-corporate, pro-weed secularist not once, but twice, when he turned out to be the most status quo president since WWII.

However, my history isn't sharp enough to know who #1 is. Seems unlikely that the best in history would be the ones I remember.

 

Yep. Trump is a terrible conman - his schtick is obvious.

Obama was a smooth murderer

 

Who did Obama murder that upsets you? Are we crying crocodile tears for the people of the ME?

 

Are we responding immaturely in order to stir up shit again?

 

Lol

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Not at all. The smile at the end was meant to lighten the query, well that was the intention.

I'm curious more than anything, not looking for an argument.

 

Do I care more about some people than others?
I value the people on my own streets - my friends, family, and those who hold my cultural values and function in my local ecosystem - more than I value the distant lives of the billions on my planet, if that was what you are looking for with the crocodile tears snipe. Especially as a disturbingly large amount of people from that specific culture - in contrast with other refugee cultures, such as Viet and Balkan - that have been taken in by us are over-represented in terrible crimes like violent, organized rape and mass murder for religious and political reasons.

This has nothing to do with skincolor, before you start, and everything to do with a clear cultural difference and a history of sexual violence, financial exploitation and murder against our people.

With that clarification, which I think you were looking for, out of the way -

My stance on Obama in the middle east
I hold Obama responsible for what I mentioned above. I strongly hold that it was better to have Hitlerian dictators such as Saddam to control the delightful populations which we now house in the millions to our great economic benefit, social cohesion and physical safety, than have USA destroy it all. The USA should have stayed out of that shithole in the first place, I don't think anyone sane disputes that anymore.

USA in, USA out
I have great disgust for the drone-fuelled warfare Obama espoused covertly, while smiling and grinning to the masses. I didn't know about it early on, and fell for the whole peace in the middle east thing. I fell for it for a whole term, and a year into the second, before a disturbing trend broke the illusion of the left-wing superstar president. Now I see that Obama has caused an amazing amount of chaos - without American troops to keep the secterian power struggle at bay, and allow for a structure of law and commerce that we saw bring Japan, South Korea and Germany into the first world, morally and financially (I mean from der führer and tenno to democratically elected presidents, that's pretty good), shit has gone south.

Wave-effects in Europe
There are German girls been gangraped in the streets by migrants posing as refugees this very day because Obama pulled military power out of the middle east. They should have stayed there and bled money and lives until stability could be established - but they didn't, and relations between Islam and the West, between Turkey and EU, between all of EU internally (now sans Britain), between even Sweden and Norway/Denmark, this instability and chaos we see with


Donald Trump at the helm as his successor. Has root cause in Obama. Don't think I don't have pity for these people, simply because I decry the insane amount of rape, murder and theft they have brought my people - I'd happily pay taxes out the ass to try to stabilize the Mag/Lev region, and remove the power void that allows such horrible forces to spread their violent ideologies and oppress human beings in such awful ways.

 

I wasn't implying that you were racist, a bigot or anything of the sort by asking the question I asked. We may have different views on certain things but I dont believe you are any those things.

I'd agree with everything you said apart from what I would view as an exaggeration regarding raping gangs of Muslims marauding all over Europe. There have been rapes and gang rapes but not on the scale you are suggesting.

Obama was a snake oil salesman, Trump is his uncouth replacement who will huff and puff his way through his term and pursue the same warmongering agenda. Appeasing the likes of Saudi Arabia is only throwing petrol on a bonfire. Those Wahhabist bastards are the source and financiers of al Qaeda and Isis.

The warmongering and meddling of the US led West in the Middle East and North Africa has brought us to where we are today. The West has brought all of this upon itself. You reap what you sow as they say.

If only Ron Paul had got elected somehow, we'd be living in a better world today for sure.

 

Yes there have. Are you sure you are keeping up to date on the scale of rape? I'm not going to get bogged down with you here, but I wish to suggest that you don't understand the scale of violent rape that Muslim culture has brought to Europe.

The public aware examples are far too many to mention, from the grooming gangs in England to the shutting down of major festivals in Sweden over mass sexual assault to the overwhelmingly clear example of Muslim culture on the infamous New Years Eve.

Your part in aggressively downplaying those events, and the horror inflicted on women in the Muslim world across the globe, in the name of fighting 'racism', is a scar on your moral skin that I won't forget.

Edit: Be careful with 'you reap what you sow' mindstate. If you claim that completely innocent European girls being raped in the streets is 'reap what you sow' = justified revenge, then you have absolutely no moral right to say anything when those same Europeans who have been raped and murdered turn around and intern completely innocent Muslims in concentration camps.

 

You're reading far too much into what I'm saying Viking and are jumping to wild conclusions. I never once said or hinted that anyone in Europe or elsewhere deserved any harm to come to them.

You reap what you sow means that you eventually have to face up to the consequences of your actions. By waging war and meddling in the Middle East and Northern Africa western governments have brought Isis and al Qaeda to our front doors. Blowback.

I'd suggest looking up what "you reap what you sow" means.

Edit: I'm happy being a man and have no desire to be a "dragon". One shouldn't get ahead of oneself Viking, I'm yet to see a flame.

 

except for all the violence you were stumping for just a few short months ago. Waving the ANTIFA flag, saying everyone was NAZI's. And of course, the jury of P decides who is "nazi" and who isn't. Or did you now move on to a newer, softer view on things P?

 

As with all the far left, they are reaping what they have been sowing for half a decade

 

Who does the raping
No.It's not just ISIS and al-Qaeda committing all the atrocities. The rapists, of which there are thousands upon thousands in just the last few years, are regular men from the conservative Muslim gender culture.

I agree that it is blowback - I've studied the issue extensively, to understand the mindset of the Muslim rapist, since there have been so sickeningly many of them. Do you think that having your village bombed by 'The West' as so blazenly label it might incentivize this a tiny bit? And are they so choosy with their vengeance, are there many Swedish massacres in the Middle East much? Yet they are suffering brutal pillages, car burning, mind-numbingly violent gangrapes on a bi-weekly basis.

This is not just a small minority. This is a mindset of an entire region, taking a brutal inferiority-complex driven vengeance on the weak from a completely different culture they are taught they are superior to - yet rely on entirely for survival. The example of Muhammed and the Holy Scripture of the Hadith allows the taking of sex-slaves among kuffar, non-believers, so the dehumanization required is there, combined with the warlike anger of the oppression of their societies by white-skinned people in suits that they simultaneously need, are a cocktail that lower the bar for defiling the most priceless and fragile possesion a society has - their daughters.

Other countries have acted diffferently
Besides, all your defenses fall to complete dust when compared to Germany and Japan, neither of whom behave like this. Japan was nuked. Twice. Where are all the kamikaze attacks on American bases?

It's all in the Islamic superiority doctrine, tribal aggression and dominance inherent to these cultures, and the lowered bar for violence for slights and insults.
It's entirely cultural. Conservative Muslim culture from countries bombed by the West simply cause more good than harm, and feed a vicious cycle that I am desperate to stop.

So, if you grant that this is inevitable blowback, that the rapes and terror attacks are to be naturally expected, then as someone who intends to raise daughters on these streets, is it good for me to be pro-Muslim migration on a massive scale? Is it good for the Muslims who already made peaceful lives here that millions of new arrivals are causing complete havoc and ruining their already-fragile reputation? When you weigh the scales of good vs bad and resource management, would more people be better served by tightening borders and spending money on the millions of refugees who don't get the special treatment that the often lying migrants, the %1, the lucky few who hit the lottery, who enter Europe do (access to dental care, health care, language courses, free housing, free food, free power, free security, allowances, free heavy state-funded educations, free access to heavy welfare) - can we not do more good in other ways?

Tell me you've changed on this as well as the many other good things