Trouble in Flowering!! (with pics)

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Indoors' started by darkstar0422, Jan 12, 2008.

  1. Ok, after pulling all my males, I'm left with one WW and one Thai Stick plant, both started 12/12 on Nov. 28th. I used some 10-15-10 flowering fert over the christmas break, and to help the babies survive my being gone for longer periods of time over break i added some Soil Moist absorbant granules. It looks like they're both getting bad nute burn (I began using the nutes at 1/2 strength, only applied them twice). I tried flushing both a couple days ago, and i havn't seen any improvement, its actually gotten worse, the only thing i can think is that the absorbant things took in the nute-heavy water and are still releasing it. Any ideas?

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  2. that def looks like nute burn, not too sure about your npk, im running a 4-10-3

    imo i would flush it out, gallon after gallon, 3x the pots size, maybe more. just do a soil runoff test

    you could probably add 1/2 strength nutes to the last gallon to get the nutes where you want them to be...what nutes are you using, and whats your regimen, what does the bottle say? my guess is that the granules messed you up.

    flush flush flush, then go from there, if you started nov 28th you should be near the end now. and probably need to be flushing soon anyway.

    as the plant matures and in the last stages of its life it will suck all the life out of those leaves that it can. so bad leaves arent ness a bad thing, but that does look like nute burn

    hope someone can chime in on all this, for you, but i would flush HARD. how much did you do when you flushed the first time?
     
  3. the buds look tasty..

    i agree with doindia, problems stemming from a feeding certainly warrant a good flush. i find its best to flush in increments, like one gallon, wait 10 minutes, another gallon and so on..just my two cents:smoke:
     
  4. i would just put as much water through it as will go through at once, when its full, let it sit and drain. soon as you can add more, do it. it shouldnt take more than a couple minutes between gallons at the most, or else you dont have proper drainage to begin with. you want the roots to be flooded. and washed away of all the fert.

    also be a good idea to use some peroxide in the flush
     
  5. Hey, thanks for all the responses. When I flushed, I ran 5 gallons through each (they're in 3 gallon pots i believe). I added http://www.biconet.com/soil/hydrogel.html to the soil to help with watering over christmas break, and the nutes i used are http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100502&id=prod16753
    I think i may try letting the soil dry up so the granules release the water they're holding (under the assumption this is where the nute-heavy water is coming from), and after the soil is fairly dry try flushing again. Anyone think that might be a particularly good or bad idea?
     

  6. i wouldnt say bad idea, but i would have ran a lot more than that over it, are those time release? pellets or whatever you added? but since you flushed already i would let it dry up, pretty good, and if it dosent look a LOT better then i would flush at least 8-10 gallons. really give it a good clean washing of the roots, some ph gets so bad that you have to pull the plant out of the soil and run a hose through the roots to get EVERY bit of dirt out from them.



    edit, im not so sure of those nutrients, have you used the before or were they recommended?
     
  7. definately flush soil immediately and why would u add have strength after see this problem u just made it worse relax it taks time to get it right man you cant add nutes 2 a week ull kill it think about what you did and what you posted you gave nutes then added granuals to soil seen you had prob so fixed and added half strength
    flush alot of water it doesnt mater how much just alot make sure ur ph is good and add alot of water.......get those nutes out add dont add anything at all just plain water for next 2 weeeks theyll pull out in about a week......you cant expect nute prob to be fixed overnight


    so flush thats soil if u got 3 gallon pots use 3 gallon of water at once you have to dillute that soil down to no nutes now then when they recover go half strength
    i hope they recover mayne
     

  8. Bad call man (aside from flushing immediatly). when you over feed your plants, you dont just flush them and starve them to compensate. you dont take the PH from 8 down to 4 or 9 down to 5, you take WHATEVER it is down to what it needs to be 5.8-6.8 when you flush your plants you are doing it to get your solution back down to normal, and adding half strength ferts will not add burn on top of what is there, it will have the medium right where it needs to be, you dont flush a plant in flowering and give it nothing for two weeks, or you will have exactly what i had and learned from, nitrogen def's and others. i did this exact thing. this flush is quoted from ganja guerilla. probably one of the most knowledgable plant doctor on this forum.



    and this is a quote from another experienced grower in one of my threads that i was having the same problem in.


    cult is right...about flushing and you usually give them nutes maybe once a week, every other watering. so twice a week is too much. however is also wrong about the amount of flush. if you have a 3gallon pot you want to flush at least 9 gallons. some people get away with double the amt, rule of thumb is 3 gallons per gallon size pot
     
  9. Ok, just tryin to clear up a few questions here. The nute bottle says 1/8 teaspoon per quart of water if you want to use it each time you water, and 1/4 teaspoon per quart of water if you plan on using it only once every other week. The first time I used the nutes, I used only 1/8 teaspoon per gallon (so 1/4 strength of recommended daily use), and the second time I used them was 4 days later, when I used 1/4 teaspoon per gallon (1/2 recommended daily use), and I havn't used any nutes since. As for the starving the plants, I was only thinking of doing that so that the absorbant granules would release the apparently nute-heavy water they already hold. From the advice I've seen, I'm currently in the process of flushing the shit outta each of them, hopefully it'll work. Any other ideas/questions? Much thanks for the replies again
     

  10. well for right now the main thing is fixing it, who cares what you did or how wrong it was. we shall work forward from here. your BOTTOM line is flushing it, are you checking the ph coming out? is it ph corrected going in? until the flush is complete you dont wanna worry with nutes or servings, all though that will be addressed soon

    as for the bottle, dont ever use it every watering so your gonna want to do the other and cut it in half so. but im also not so sure, about your nutes, whats your NPK? might have some harsh nutes and things could get cleared up with a 8 dollar bottle of something else

    let us know whats up
     

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