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  1. Here it is about 36 hours after that first picture was taken. Think it's gonna make it?
     

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    Then explain to me how I've seen my brother put a seed in dirt with no light and the mother fucker was growing down towards the bottom of the pot...
     
    I had to dig it out and re-plant it for him...
     
    they don't need light to grow sprouts towards though huh?
     
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    it would self correct itself eventually if it doesnt die and thats from planting the seed sideways with the root growing up and pushing the plant down
     

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  4. Lol I have no idea how your brother managed that one.

    Once again, no they do not need light to sprout in the correct direction. Gravitropism, google it if you do not believe me.

    In the winter i keep my dome covered with a piece of blackout curtain to keep temps more stable and have sprouted many, many plants with no light.
     
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    </div></div></div></div><a></a><div><div><div style="font-size:14.64px;font-family:serif;">Linda Chalker-Scott, Ph.D., Extension Ho
    rticulturist and Associate Professor,
    Puyallup Research and Extension Cent
    er, Washington State University
    The Myth of Vitamin Stimulants:
    "Vitamin B-1 reduces transplant shock
    by stimulating new root growth"
    The Myth
    Ever seen this advertisement? “[Product X, which c
    ontains vitamin B-1] stimulates the quick formation
    of new root hairs and revitalizes the delicate feeder r
    oots that are often damaged in transplanting. [Product
    X] is especially designed to hasten the developmen
    t of bareroot roses, shrubs, shade trees and bedding
    plants that have been moved to new locations. It
    helps plants become established quickly and ensures
    vigorous growth.” Another adds a little scientific te
    rminology to convince you: “Vitamin B-1 (plus minor
    elements and chelating agents) is great for root grow
    th and helps reduce transplant shock.” Or how about
    this one? “The combination of Vitamin B-1 with
    essential micro nutrients forms a highly effective
    mixture...and lessens the chances of transplant shock and plant stress.”
    Aren't you convinced that if you don't use products
    with Vitamin B-1 your transplants will suffer?
    Apparently administrators at one large university
    are. Under their “Typical Tree Protection and
    Relocation Specifications” is the following:
    “
    48 hours prior to cutting, an application of vitamin B-1
    shall be administered to the rootball of the tree.” If a university requires this practice, it must be
    legitimate, right?
    The Reality
    Applying vitamin B-1, or thiamine, to root systems of
    whole plants does not stimulate root growth. This
    is a myth that refuses to die, though it has been re
    peatedly refuted in the scientific literature. To
    understand why, it helps to think about th
    is in a historical perspective.
    Many decades ago the plant growth regulators called a
    uxins were isolated and characterized. Auxins
    were found to stimulate cell elongation in both root
    and shoot tissues. Commercial preparations were
    developed that contained auxin
    and vitamin B-1 among other ingredients. Research in 1949 found
    improved root development in plants tr
    eated with one of these preparations (
    Transplantone
    , which
    contains both auxin and thiamine), but noted the importa
    nce of auxins in this response. Further research
    throughout the last half of the 20
    th
    century investigating the application of auxins to root systems
    suggested that auxins may stimulate root growth
    , but that vitamin B-1 on its own does not.
    So what does work for stimulating root growth and reduc
    ing transplant shock? A review of the historical
    and current literature suggests the following:
    Indole butyric acid (IBA)
    is one of the most common auxin formulations especially in tissue culture. In
    cuttings, it has been found to increase the number of
    roots, to increase rooting percentage, to increase
    both parameters, or to do neither. IBA has had some
    success in root regeneration in transplanted trees; it
    may help redirect resources to the roots by suppressing crown growth.
    Naphthylacetic acid (NAA)
    is also a commonly used auxin and often the active ingredient in commercial
    preparations. NAA tends to be toxic to seedling root
    development, as it inhibits primary root growth and
    enhances lateral root growth. This latter activity
    may account for NAA's success in regenerating roots of
    transplanted and root-pruned trees. Like IBA,
    NAA apparently suppresses crown growth, which also may
    redirect resources to the roots.

    </div><a></a><div style="font-size:14.64px;font-family:serif;">Paclobutrazol (PBZ)
    is another plant growth regulator that seems to stimulate root growth in
    containerized as well as established tree species. Like
    the auxins, PBZ reduces crown growth which may
    assist with root resources.
    Fungicides
    may increase root growth, but overall this is not beneficial to the plant. Fungicides kill
    beneficial mycorrhizal species, and the lack of mycorrh
    izal colonization means that plants must put more
    resources into root growth than they would if
    mycorrhizae were present. Furthermore, there are
    beneficial fungi and bacteria that control pathogeni
    c microbes and roots colonized by beneficial microbes
    have been shown to grow more than those without.
    Nitrogen
    supplements can improve root growth, and c
    onversely the absence of nitrogen will depress root
    growth. Uptake competition from bacteria, fungi, and ot
    her plants can be intense and so nitrogen is often
    limiting.
    Vitamin B-1 (thiamine)
    is an important component of tissue culture media, in which isolated plant tissues
    can be propagated. Its use for stimulating root grow
    th in whole plants is not supported in the literature
    and one study reported that root growth was greater in
    the control treatment (water) than with thiamine.
    Plants in the field manufacture their own source of thiamine and it is therefore unnecessary to add any
    additional levels. Many fungi and bacteria associat
    ed with plant roots also produce thiamine, so it's
    likely that healthy soils will contain adequate
    levels of this vitamin without amendment.
    Why does the mystique of vitamin B-1 transplant toni
    cs still persist after decades of scientific debunking?
    The Bottom Line
    •
    Vitamin B-1, aka thiamine, does not reduce transp
    lant shock or stimulate new root growth on
    plants outside the laboratory
    •
    A nitrogen fertilizer is adequate for transplan
    ting landscape plants; avoid use of “transplant
    fertilizers” that contain phosphate
    •
    Healthy plants will synthesize their own thiamine supply
    •
    Healthy soils contain beneficial microbes that synthesize thiamine as well
    •
    Difficult-to-transplant species may be aided by
    application of auxin-
    containing products in
    addition to nitrogen, but read the label
    and don't add unnecessary and potentially harmful
    chemicals (this includes organics!)
    •
    Adequate soil moisture is crucial for new root
    growth; be sure to irrigate new transplants
    frequently and use mulch to reduce evaporation
    For more information, please visit Dr. Chalker-Scott's web page at
    http://www.theinformedgardener.com
    .

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  6. Now, when germinating in a paper towel, has anyone ever had their seed in paper "balls" they drop into the soil to prevent handling of the seed once the tap root emerges?

    Yes, dont forget about gravity. That is also true.
     
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    I will continue to use my super thrive when transplanting and once on young plants. I have SEEN this product green out a yellowed stressed out plant so I don't care what your link you found says
     

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