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To all the people think 99% of the time weed isnt laced...

Discussion in 'Marijuana Consumption Q&A' started by inb4bud, Dec 28, 2012.

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  1. I actually spoke to a few dealers (in the UK), and about 3/5 of them have told me that to some people they lace the weed with coke, but only the first time. This will make them a genuine customer (or maybe). They dont lace it every time, they do it the first time so the customer will try and match that first high.

    Btw, this info came from chavs (UK equivalent to scum).
     
  2. thats in the UK tho.. ive heard a lot of stories about them lacin it with glass.

    around here if you get weed laced with coke you better thank your dealer.. shit aint cheap
     
  3. I make friend with my dealers before I just up and buy a bag for them, and the whole lacing thing isn't really practical. The dealer would be spending a lot extra trying to get the user to be addicted to his harder drugs, just doesn't sound like it would be very lucrative.
     
  4. So you trust the reliability of scum for this info?
     
  5. Anyone who likes to look at their bud, admire it, etc (which is most of grasscity :D ) would notice if it was laced. We like to look at it up close, crack it open, sniff it, it's all part of the "new bag" ritual for a lot of us. And I guess a good little quality control process.
     
  6. yer thats just not true.
     
  7. I think all this proves is that the UK is fucked, in all my years of smoking and all the people/friends I've smoked with I've never encountered laced bud and neither have they.
     
  8. ...I say bullshit.
    ...who in the hell is going to invest that type of money to lace buds, even if the bud is bunk? ...1st purchase or last, odds are if they have coke they're in the coke business....and well, that's just a bigger fish.
     
  9. I would do the same if I was in their position. But due to my geographic location on the map being a not-so-shady area
     
  10. To those who think it's not financially savvy for a dealer to lace weed, think again, it's incredibly cheap, profitable, and easy for them to do so. :(


    A post I made in a past thread on the same topic;

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    People certainly do underhandedly lace weed. [​IMG]


    It does happen, and not always when the buyer is expecting it or looking for it.




    When you've seen just how crappy and low-grade some imports can be, it's easy to understand why lacing herb can be a financially savvy route for certain underhanded businessmen.



    Most folks making smaller purchases expect to see the product before they buy it, or sample it, even. But that's often not the case when buying in bulk, to the tune of a couple hundred (or more than a few thousand) pounds.


    For instance, a dealer drops a huge load of cash on a product that, ultimately, he simply can not sell, as-is.


    He breaks through the first few feet, and finds the core of each bale is vastly inferior to the outside, and even the outside may not be so good. Many people use solvents to extract glandular material, then re-dry the cannabis before selling, even and especially on a large scale.


    This can render bud virtually impotent, even if it still looks pretty decent and intact. The trichome stalks and cuticles (heads) are often still present... just virtually emptied.



    When a buyer is in that situation, right now, as it is, it's either a 100% loss or a huge amount of effort and time to extract what little hash there is, when he may or may not even be able to move hash in his market.




    Keep in mind, that when you get down to it, cannabis is a considerably tame drug and people are really not expecting THAT much from it and many of those who consistently smoke low-grade often don't even know what to expect, so it doesn't take much of certain hard, plant-based, sometimes legal and synthetic substances, to provide a pretty intense sensation.

    Wetted, laced, and re-dried, for a very small cost, a dealer who makes an extraordinarily bad buy can at least make something back without losing the next connection, who may be expecting this next haul in a timely manner.


    When larger amounts change hands, and it goes between dealers who use very little, or none of the cannabis themselves, it's very easy and at dealer-rates it's surprisingly cost effective to lace inferior product.
    These days, hard drugs are often cheaper than cannabis anyhow, and you only need a tiny amount of these less-expensive substances to cause something like the level of effect, that a cannabis user would expect (albeit an odd, and suspicious effect).


    I've seen it happen with my own eyes with a huge quantity, they were quite experienced when it came to doing it, and they acted as though it was business as usual and fairly common in their line of work, not just among themselves, but among many of their competitors, and it was the first, and the last time I ever associated with these fellows (I've never been into anything 'big' trade-wise of course, only in the legitimate medical community, my time with them was purely social). It reminded me why I haven't bought a street-bag in well over a decade [​IMG]




    TL;DR - Thousands of pounds are laced each year, this is why they need to just end the prohibition of our canna in such a way that we can all grow our own, or buy locally, without risking harm or threat from both 'authority figures' and unscrupulous salesmen. \t\t[​IMG]
     
  11. #11 trichome fiend, Dec 28, 2012
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    ...well, if they lace their buds with cocaine....they are bass ackwards....and are losing money....noone can convince me otherwise.


    ...if this is soooOOOOoooo true....when the united states conficates drugs, they test it.....if cannabis has cocaine in it the police would charge you for BOTH.....and I've NEVER seen anyone caught with weed ONLY get both charges.
     
  12. Why are people still using the "It will cost them more money" excuse?
    they dont have to lace it all the time. They can just lace it the first time, and cocaine is around £50 a gram in the UK (Not that i take it, but i learnt that from research i done).
    They can lace bud with 0.2g and sell it as dank. weed is expensive as it is in the UK, and lacing it once wont put a dealer in ultimate money loss debt.
     
  13. That's some low shit I aint never had laced weed in my life
    This one girl I knew had to go to the hospital tho because her stuff had windex in it...but that's because someone was trying to harm her not because the dealers are wack
    although whenever I get too high I accuse the weed of being laced
     
  14. Smoking coke weed once wont get you addicted so that theory is dumb..its not the same as smoking crack
     
  15. lol...ive never seen a laced bag after 10 years of buying weed...you should always be able to tell by smell/look if ur bud has been messed with
     

  16. Well maybe because it is not an excuse...it's fact
     
  17. this whole time i thought we were talking about coke a cola. :confused:
     
  18. The majority of weed isn't laced. Here's an idea, don't go to shitty dealers.

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  19. #20 BadKittySmiles, Dec 28, 2012
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    Most weed isn't laced, there are easier ways to rip people off and recoup losses. But thousands upon thousands of pounds are laced, each year. With some, the majority of the customer base is aware, and with others they are almost if not entirely under their radar.



    The number one reason that cannabis is laced by the pound, in bulk, is so that a buyer may recoup losses after a bad purchase, without disappointing an entire customer base with herb that does next to nothing.



    Do we really think, that with all the kids who fill their customers bags with grass-clippings and dirt to rip people off for a quick buck, or to make up for being ripped off themselves, that all big-time movers are honest little sweethearts with the best of intentions, who can't afford to do a little bit better?


    Really???

    Just think about it, not too hard, but seriously. THINK.




    Lacing cannabis with various unmentionables is VERY inexpensive, and can help a dealer move hundreds of pounds of a much more expensive commodity, such as cannabis, when otherwise he'd have been out several hundred thousand dollars. You think he's just going to let that slide, take the loss, and that his only recourse is going after the guy who ripped him off? Think again!


    They ARE all about money, and while it would be cheaper and more profitable to sell already-functional bud, they realize that if they want to stay in business, they'll either need to take the loss on their several-hundred-thousand dollar purchase, or invest a little more cash, a fraction of what they've already spent, to make it move.



    And that's just the guys who get ripped... there are thousands of little operations, starting at the growers, and going all the way down the middle men, which strip glandular material from cannabis using solvents, because they have a market for both flowers AND hash.

    They can sell the hash for top dollar, and multiply their profits by moving the still-heavy, but now mostly 'inert' herb, only after lacing it with synthetics and/or other plant extracts, some of which are: legal; mild; have little to no odor or taste; can be produced legally; and are incredibly cheap.



    That aside, even most hard street drugs are cheaper than cannabis now... but at dealers prices, and in bulk, and in the quantities required to do the trick?

    Chump change.


    If they can't find, grow or produce legal alternatives, they can resort to their connections for harder substances, in bulk, that in very tiny quantities, can rip a cannabis-only user's head off.



    Cannabis is a tame drug when you get down to it, so besides the fact that unmentionables are cheaper, and besides the fact that dealers can get them for even less than street prices per dose, it only takes a FRACTION of the amount to do the trick, when a person is only expecting the mild effects of low-grade cannabis.

    People who regularly buy low-quality herb (especially those in isolated regions far removed from medical states), and who don't always know what to look for, are quite used to running into herb that does next to nothing one day, while the next batch may be ludicrously strong or odd.


    Just look at some of the posts we see on here on a day-to-day basis: some people, both young people and adults, still need verification when they've bought oregano and lawn clippings.

    So when they buy something that looks like bud, smells like bud, and messes them up, do you think they're going to question it?


    Yes awareness and knowledge is spreading, but there's PLENTY of room for unscrupulous vendors to do their dirty work, and plenty of customers left who buy it up, whether it's a one-off thing to recoup losses, or a never-ending supply.



    If you don't comprehend how the drug trade works, you don't have any business spouting off wild nonsense like 'weed can't be laced, it's not financially viable'... that, is an INCREDIBLY ridiculous, faulty, unsafe, and most of all naive, assumption.


    And if it's the only reason you can come up with, for not lacing cannabis, then you don't have the grounds for an argument, period, and bordering on the suggestion that herb isn't ever laced and assuming that people have never overdosed due to these practices, WHICH THEY HAVE, is incredibly dangerous both for you, and anyone that reads along who may be foolish enough to believe such thoughtless, uneducated nonsense.



    I'm not trying to be a 'meanie', or bring anyone down, but this is a dangerous topic and with just a little, tiny bit of thought, it's VERY clear that lacing especially bricked cannabis, is not only possible, but incredibly profitable.

    It's a disgusting and all-too-common practice, and I'll finish by saying this; the substance mentioned in this thread most frequently, is the least of your concerns when it comes to lacing.
    Not only is it unreasonable to think they actually test every bag of weed that comes into the police department for anything besides THC, which costs hundreds of dollars per test in and of itself, besides that, there are hundreds if not thousands of chemical compounds, that they don't even test for period.
     
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