Time

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by TripRollnToke, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. It's been discussed many times before, and all of the people that frequent this section I'm sure have had some strange thoughts and experiences with it. But at the end of the day, do we really even understand the slightest thing about it?

    The way we've designed time it just cycles and we always end up in the same place we were yesterday, or last year, or whenever. We try to develop forward time by every 60 seconds we raise a minute, and every 60 minutes we raise an hour, but every 12 hours, we go back to where we were 12 hours before. And every ~8,800 hours we raise the year, but what does that even mean? Do we ever really differentiate between years as some sort of forward motion, or do we just go back to doing exactly what we were doing before? We think of ourselves as existing in a certain space of time, "Born June 1990, Died January 2038" or whatever. In stead of just saying, I exist now, which is forever, and is all there is, and is all I know.

    I think we'd be a lot better off without any idea of time, in stead of creating our motion based around time and letting it cycle, which forces us into this idea of restarting, we could just move, right here, right now. Because no matter how much time cycles, now never changes, and you're never around tomorrow, and you don't exist yesterday any more than you do in 15 minutes, even though oftentimes we conceptualize ourself as doing the actions of yesterday and tomorrow right now, really, we're only acting now, and sadly allow our ideas of the past and future to create our present being. When our present being should simply exist as is. We've used time to trap ourselves into a cyclic uniformed bore of an existence, and I for one, am tired of it.


    Idk, may not have made sense, just trying to put my thoughts into words.
     
  2. Even more, the speed of light, at the speed of light time ceases to exist entirely. What would that feel like? Would thought disappear? If you stopped travelling at the speed of light, how much time would have passed? If you travelled at the speed of light for even an instant, would forever pass by and you'd end up back where you started?

    Einstein stated it's impossible for a being to accelerate to the speed of light, but said nothing on the nature of beings already travelling at the speed of light. As the entire universe exists perpetually in the same state, is the complete form at the speed of light? I've got so many questions and thoughts on this, and I'm glad I can't answer them, because I find so much joy in the questions themself.
     

  3. Wow great post! I can't even think of anything to add to that atm. Maybe I'll think of something later, but that was perfectly said. + rep :hello:

    - peace, joy, love, and light
     
  4. I've thought about existence existing at the speed of light before too. Verrrry interesting.
     
  5. Very well said OP.




    I basically feel the same way you do in regards to time.



    There is only now. The past and present is just how we describe the fact that "now" is constantly in motion.
     
  6. Isn't time just position? I always thought it was just a way to keep track of earths cycle. I believe there's only one moment. Now. Everything else is just a thought. We think back on past events(The past) And try to predict future events(The future). This whole human language is just that. Human language. It's all too confusing when you try to look at the bigger picture, because there are errors.
     
  7. Its the language

    I was here


    I am here


    I'm going to be here


    And I haven't even moved an inch


    Its all in the language brother
     
  8. i really dont think things would work without time. ive had thoughts like this before, tried to imagine a world with no time. usually the thought crosses my mind when im running out of time. 5 minutes to get ready, ten minutes to finish eating lunch, or even one minute to pack the 4:20 bowl. what if i just had to be ready, or eat, or pack a bowl...didnt matter when, just something to do. i try to imagine going through my daily life with no time limits. can you imagine going to work or school with no time limits? you go in when it seems like a good idea, work, and leave when the job for the day is done. but wait, theres the problem. the day...thats a unit of time. but day is when the sun is in the sky, night is when the moon is in the sky. each "sun" or each "moon" becomes a unit of time. then it gets more confusing. you start going to work when the sun is in the sky at a certain point because that feels like when you should start your work for the day. you leave when the moon is at a certain position because that is about the time you finish your work. when the sun is at a certain angle, that becomes a time for you. but when someone else looks at the sky, the sun seems to be at a different angle. the dont show up to work until much later than you. that throws of your work when nobody else is there doing theirs, getting it done, because there is no certain time they have to do it. we would eventually invent a way to label where the sun is in the sky so everybody saw it the same way. that would become "time."
    as nice as it seems to not have the restrictions of a clock or calendar, eventually we would create it. as people, we want order. we also want freedom from that order so we are not restricted, but without order there would be chaos. we invented time to get rid of chaos, and would certainly do it again if we lost memory of time. my suggestion? lets start a national, or even international holiday where all the clocks get shut off(public ones downtown, cell phone companies get rid of clocks for the day, etc.) and people who want to celebrate shut off their home clocks. i think it would be fun for a day
     
  9. Yea It wouldn't work out if we just x'd out time now, because everything we do is based around time, causing us to create schedules. If there was never any 'time' invented, there would be no schedule to begin with. This would be a totally different world. A world the present us would know nothing of. It would be all good tho because we wouldn't know what we we're missing out on because we never had it. It'd probably be a lot less stressful. We do a lot of 'extra' stuff now that has nothing to do with basic survival
     
  10. Hello TripRollinToke,

    There is a present time (Now), but lasts only 5.39x10^(-44) sec.

    :D

    When I am thinking of what I am going to say, am I manipulating the future?


    How soon is now? How far is here? Are we there yet! :confused:
     
  11. You sound like Eckhart Tolle... dude's made millions off this simple realization (though he is more articulate than you.)

    If you take this a step further, you will realize that suffering is in fact impossible without notions of time.
     
  12. The frame-rate of the universe. :D
     
  13. lol you misunderstand me but your silly arrogance is an excellent point to this thread


    You avoided the Now


    To remember to be arrogant


    To give the false ego a boost



    Eating up your conscious energy



    Wasting it on that


    Arrogance



    What a waste isn't it



    Avoiding the Now



    to feel good about yourself



    Chasing the image



    When its right in front of you



    Never catching up



    The gap widening every time you think you're getting closer?



    Why are you chasing the image



    When you are its Creator?



    People are fuckin' crazy man


    lolololololllipoplollipopohlollilollipopohlollypopnumnumnumnumnnum:smoke:


    I just got and idea

    A perpetual waste of time :D

    Lmao


    Now thats a good one you gotta give me credit for that one :p



    Like I said its all in the language brotha ;)
     
  14. And in that miniscule amount of time forever is contained. It's amazing, infinity in an instant.
     
  15. What if each instant is an entire reality. There are probably an infinite amount of instances, each of them being a whole reality.
     

  16. there is no future :bongin:
     

  17. Thanks bro :smoke:

    Now is life

    Living

    When you die that dying

    Decay

    Ceasing to exist

    Then you die

    Then is death

    Simply put

    From now till then is why we live life

    Therefore how we envision ourselves in spirit.....

    I can't even speculate

    Imagine an embryo's life

    Death is birth

    In a nutshell we see our ancestors in a reflection

    Thats DNA's ultimate purpose

    Obvious in another light

    We see our ancestors because they told us we would

    They told us we would see who we are

    And who we are are exactly who they are

    The All

    The One

    Allah (SWT) (Not making it religious in anyway this is literally what that name means, The All, and I saw SWT (Subhanahu wa ta'ala, meaning glory to God) out of utmost respect for Islam and its Pillars and aspects. I consider myself a Sufi as well. Humans don't decide to kill others. Confusion does which inflicts them to harm others, as we all know it as a projection of the subconscious. Moving on)

    Anyways my point is Now is the destination after the existence of time occurring. It is like Time is the string we tie around use when we begin our journey to navigate through the dark dark cold forest of Space.

    The Big Bang is Birth

    Birth of Thought

    Imagine how an idea is sparked as the big bang is recreated

    The contents you place in thought as the universe cries out for the first time

    Maturing into a toddler

    Going to preschool

    High school

    Graduating College

    Getting married and having kids

    Becoming grandparents and experiencing death after a happy life filled with wonderful memories

    Which universe will allow this?

    Which universe wouldn't?

    Bear with me now this all relates to time

    To Thought

    How Thought occurs in this fashion from birth to death

    All within a quantum instant

    From Now To When

    Till Then

    This is what we call Time and Space

    Leaping over the Gap

    Getting Up Again

    Over and Over Again

    Motion, Time & Space

    From Now To When

    Till Then :smoke:
     
  18. I like your post. I try not to really think or look at time. Sometimes it's best to just go by how you feel in the moment, rather than wondering what's the day or the time.
     

  19. Exactly
     
  20. Time can only be fully understood by an observer with the god like gift of infinite regression.
     

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