Currency makes the modern world go around.It gives people within society their title, their living conditions, amount of children etc..It is money that builds our appearance to others, people with no money may look disgusting though they may have a heart of pure kindness.Wealthy people may be seen as great and almighty though they may be overwhelmed with ego and arrogance.If anyone has read "The Lord of the Flies" Golding (the author) depicts a story of a small group of children abandoned on an island. They create the foundation of a basic society. In the end, we find that these pure innocent children turn gritty and viscous to live in their society. So now to the question:"Is money truly the root of all EVIL, or is it the root of all PEOPLE, keeping in mind that all people are evil deep down"~1996 Jiggawattz~
I think people do what is needed to survive. Adaptation is key. People will do what they need to in a given situation to keep them from falling socially, financially, or even physically... Think of falling off a cliff and your hope of staying up is to reach out for the person next to and use their weight as a leverage source to keep you from falling, and by doing so it causes them to fall. People do exactly what they are programmed to do, survive. Even at the expense of someone else. Is that evil or adaptive? Or is being adaptive evil?
Evil is a concept. Us humans have a need to label everything. Useful and limiting. We are capable of both; yes, but, we are inherently "good". Struggle is the nature of the beast, and this beast breeds with "environment" to push one to bad or good. Money is not evil it's just paper with old dead people on it. What you do with it is what makes it wrong or right. The guy who robbed the dude in Central Park got laid off and his wife is sick and his kids are hungry. Is he evil? Did the use of our currency system push him to commit such a crime? Matter of perception. Yes, and yes, in my opinion. Ad the saying goes "The road to hell my friend is paved with good intentions".Ty! Please smoke again!
I don't think you can really say it is one or the other. They both play a roll in whats going on in the world. With less greed and more compassion, wealth could be spread and countries that are poor now could live comfortably. The fact that this is possible would mean to me that it isn't money that is holding us back from an entire planet of fed, clothed and housed humans, its a selects group of us humans that are controlling the wealth from the top down. 1% of the population controls over a third of the wealth and if you think that happened on accident you would be surprised. In case people haven't noticed, the conditions that the filthy rich live in aren't necessary what so ever.. How many mansions do they need? How many private jets and heli's to escort them to their private islands? People around the world live in dirt. People around the world drink water with dirt in it, and they would be lucky. The fact these fantastically rich seem to look past this makes me weep for mankind. I totally got off topic but what I was trying to get at is I think both sides have a part to play in whats going on.. Without one there can't be the other. After all we give the money its value, without us its nothing.
[quote name="Marx" post="19406554" timestamp="1390697123"]I don't think you can really say it is one or the other. They both play a roll in whats going on in the world. With less greed and more compassion, wealth could be spread and countries that are poor now could live comfortably. The fact that this is possible would mean to me that it isn't money that is holding us back from an entire planet of fed, clothed and housed humans, its a selects group of us humans that are controlling the wealth from the top down. 1% of the population controls over a third of the wealth and if you think that happened on accident you would be surprised. In case people haven't noticed, the conditions that the filthy rich live in aren't necessary what so ever.. How many mansions do they need? How many private jets and heli's to escort them to their private islands? People around the world live in dirt. People around the world drink water with dirt in it, and they would be lucky. The fact these fantastically rich seem to look past this makes me weep for mankind.I totally got off topic but what I was trying to get at is I think both sides have a part to play in whats going on.. Without one there can't be the other. After all we give the money its value, without us its nothing. [/quote] knowledge right there.Ty! Please smoke again!
[quote name="Lo Wang" post="19417567" timestamp="1390859572"]money is just a piece of paper we chose to give value.[/quote]And it pays for food, living expenses, comfort, entertainment, the bills associated with having a family. It has a value in itself, most things are subjective but the value of money isn't. Just my 2 cents
The thing is though....you dont need money to live. It facilitates trade, but you dont NEED to trade. Most people have forgotten how to do anything BUT trade for their survival though. If you ever dont want to be a part of the monetary system, dont. Drop out. It will definitely be a difficult lifestyle, but if you arent willing to put up with it then theres no reason to ever bitch about money in the first place.
everyone has a dark side. every single human functioning human being. if you go deep enough, or put someone in a certain relevant situation, their dark side will shine through. anyway, people dont need money to survive. check out the documentary on the families who live on self constructed houses and boats near the sea. they get their food from fruits and fish, aswel as meats from the forest. they have shelter, healthy food, manmade clothes, manmade weapons, etc.
So now to the question: "Is money truly the root of all EVIL, or is it the root of all PEOPLE, keeping in mind that all people are evil deep down" It's important to look at peoples' influences of all sorts. Or is money the root of all people (atleast the way I read it lol), I disagree entirely. There is good reason for post-WWII American Imperialism, they do not want to see a socialist, communist, or any other form of governing to thrive aside from capitalism/democracy. People...are led to a materialistic worldview with money. Who do you work for when you work? Your self, your benefiting a company sure. Your main goal however is to bring that money home so you can do what you want with it. It's me me me. All these ads and commercials perpetuate a selfish attitude, while this trait isn't prominent in everyone, it HAS TO BE LOOKED at in terms of psychological conditioning and what it does to your subconscious mind. I think the real question is when the fuck are people going to realize, as a unit, that it is extremely hard to manage a city, country, or the world. We learn from others and pick up instinctively on thousands of things subconsciously, therefore it's absolutely undeniably crucial we re-evaluate the way we live. One of the first things to go down is a monetary system in my honest opinion. So no, people aren't evil. It's the ones who "rule'' the world and go on committing subconscious crimes against people. The remedy IMO is meditation. But then people will group that into ''religion'', ''new age'', ''Buddhist'', ''not for me'', ''I could never do it'', "I think way to much haha". No dumbass, you're super fucking power as a human is your consciousness. Use it.
Couldn't have said it better. Basically sums down to Darwinism. We survive to make sure our family jewels moves on. If not, your bloodline doesn't move on. Say goodbye to your family tree.
Let's add, it also helps the world stay civilized/organize in a chaotic way. Basically money is the only thing keeping our neighbors from kicking down our door to raid our fridge.
It's true we don't really need money to survive. The only way I can see that happening is if we grow our own food. Though feeding the world is not an easy task. Technology can help us grow food and shelter us, but only if the world came under one roof for science and innovation instead of having religious war. But still there will always a order of command that leads the way, that has to be establish for organization.
[quote name="darklight99" post="19457640" timestamp="1391433711"]Let's add, it also helps the world stay civilized/organize in a chaotic way. Basically money is the only thing keeping our neighbors from kicking down our door to raid our fridge.[/quote] but it's also the driving force of greed. As long as money is involved in a system corruption will follow. Compare our healthcare to Cuba's. Theirs is just as good if not better than ours and their government assumes the responsibility. Our healthcare system is mainly privately owned and costs more to the citizen than a government ran one would.Sent from my iPhone using Grasscity Forum
People themselves are the root of all evil. Money is nothing more than an accepted system of control. Not even a very clever one. But it is so ingrained that it would be tough to get rid of. And it's a shame too. Because money in and of itself is worthless. I would love to live in a world where barter and trade were the forms of currency. A few ounces of bud, a case of good homemade spirits, some fresh vegetables in season, a nice cut of fresh meat, some fresh fish, some useful skills... However, that would never suffice for the elitists because they would die out. Which would be alright by me.
Barter and trade ARE the forms of currency. Money is an intermediary. Money is not a system of control. It is an object to facilitate trade and nothing more. Money only controls you if you want it to.
Money is currency...and is the only legal regulated tender available for public trade....barter and trade are commodities which are traded for currency only. Buy and sell for currency, with currency......Try living without cash, and you will leave within your means. Live with cash and credit to beat the Jonses....and that is really what civilized society is all about isn't it?
Money is no more than an inanimate object that we allow to dictate our mind. It's a medium to facilitate greed. Money does not make the world go round, we do. If we were to remove the concept of money from society, people would not be thinking parasitically as to how they can make more and more money, but rather how they can do things that make them happy. Without money, our society would truly evolve to where everyone is cared for on an unconditional basis and where people spend their energy towards creating a better world rather than taking more from others. Without money, we would free ourselves from poverty, war and tyranny that monetary systems enslave us to. We would all be equal and truly free from the negativity greed instills into humanity.
You are right but money isn't the only thing driving greed and corruption. It's our animal instinct to survive that drives it. If we take away money, were left with a scarier mess. Gun and bullets becomes the currency in a bartering world. Take that away, that means Darwinism comes into full effect. When a man is desperately hungry, he will show his true nature to kill to fill his stomach. Right now, I see a lot of my peers complain about living in United States of America. I feel sorry for them because they grew up in a generation with a plastic or silver spoon in their mouth. They have never experienced a third world country as my family have. In a third world, there is no such thing as a spoon. It's lawless. And no, there is no luxury of going to a healthcare clinic, have a/c, hot water, or food on the go. You survive by stealing and killing each other. The only choices you would have is join a rebel force with gun power, be wealthy, or take your chance of running away. <---- Money does drives this, but even if you take money away. Your left with guns and bullets. Don't believe me, read up on how Philippine government officials are elected...by gun power. I believe if we had one united world government that believes in technology and science can have a chance to be more peaceful and fair.