The Unsovereign State Theory- Commerce and properties only

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  1. #1 revjoel2013, Feb 18, 2014
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    The Theory
     
    “ "person" includes a corporation as well as a natural person;…
     
    “19. The word "state," when applied to the different parts of the United States, includes the District of Columbia and the territories, and the words "United States" may include the district and territories.” - Cal Pen Code § 7 (2014)
     
     The state governments are not sovereign.  It is an extension of the United States.  Since they are not sovereign, they are bounded to power only EXPRESSED in the United States Constitution. The US Constitution, federal laws, and federal court rulings have deny the state governments all powers expressed in United States Constitution except regulating commerce and their own properties which can include their corporation and the state's adopted children. State government s doesn't have authority to regulate anything beyond commerce and their properties.
     
    “TERM: commerce. TEXT: 1. A term of broader significance than trade. 36 Am J1st Monop etc. § 157; buying and selling, traffic, intercourse for the purpose of trade, comprising every species of commercial intercourse. 15 Am J2d Com § 2; including the purchase, sale, exchanging, leasing, and distribution of commodities. Binderup v Pathe Exchange, 263 US 291, 68 L Ed 308, 44 S Ct 96; navigation and the transit of persons and property into the ports of the United States, navigation and the transit of persons and property. “  - BALLENTINE'S LAW DICTIONARY 
     
    Commerce is to buy AND sell of goods and services or the transportation for the purpose of buying and selling.  In some legal dictionaries, you sometimes will find the word “trade.” Trade means to buy and sell (dealer).  You may find the word “exchange” in the new edition of black law's dictionary. That can mean a broker who sells a service with a product.   Commercial is activities relating to commerce like business loans, bailment, promissory notes, etc.  A good is a thing desirable to a segment of the population and has value.
     
    How it is applied in court?
     
     In escort prostitution sting, the presumption under state law is the prostitute is a victim and the John who operates a company of Johns comes to purchase the prostitute and a bunch of horny Johns rape her.  Then the prostitute is sold on the black market after the rape to other Johns.
     
    If the John rebutted the commerce and the corporate presumption, the judge may re-contract under the Model Penal Code. Under the Model Penal Code presumption is that the pimp rent out prostitutes to the Johns for sexual gratification.
     
    Commerce and commercial activities requires goods being purchase and sold. Without the “good” there is no commerce or commercial activities.  Without commerce or commercial activities, the courts have no jurisdiction over the matter.  With escort prostitution cases, there is no good that are bought and sold but services rendered..  In order for the court to have jurisdiction over an escort prostitution case, there must be the presumption of human trafficking.  Without the presumption of human trafficking, the courts don't have jurisdiction.  If the defendant doesn't rebut the presumption of human trafficking, the presumption stands as truth in commerce.  Once the human trafficking presumption is rebutted in affidavit and in trial, the courts loses jurisdiction over the case.
     
    Without the presumption of drug trafficking, the courts doesn't jurisdiction over drug possession.  If the defendant doesn't rebut the presumption of drug trafficking, the presumption stands as truth in commerce.
     
    You can apply the same principle of commerce in driving without a license traffic cases.  
     
    Disclaimer: Not legal advice. This is for the purpose of educating sovereign citizens.

     
  2. there's a sizable group in the united states that simply claim sovereign citizenship.
     
    im one. it's great! no taxes
     
  3. When can we start considering this spam?
     
  4. Should have been by now. This guy has no real life evidence to support his claims.

    Once again...there is no such thing as a sovereign citizen. It is a nice thought. But you are property of the united states government because you live on their soil. You have no personal sovereignty!

    The U.S. isn't even a sovereign nation anymore since they are part of the U.N. and if we are not even a sovereign nation...how do you expect this sovereign citizen shit to hold up in court. I am so tired of pointing out your idiocy! Give up! You are wrong!
     

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