The U.S. is Now a Police State

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bharminder, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. Paul Craig Roberts: The U.S. is Now a Police State

    [SIZE=+1]Anyone Could be Next [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+2]The U.S. is Now a Police State [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+3]A[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]mericans have been losing the protection of law for years. In the 21st century the loss of legal protections accelerated with the Bush administration's “war on terror,” which continues under the Obama administration and is essentially a war on the Constitution and U.S. civil liberties.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]The Bush regime was determined to vitiate habeas corpus in order to hold people indefinitely without bringing charges. The regime had acquired hundreds of prisoners by paying a bounty for “terrorists.” Afghan warlords and thugs responded to the financial incentive by grabbing unprotected people and selling them to the Americans. [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]The Bush regime needed to hold the prisoners without charges because it had no evidence against the people and did not want to admit that the U.S. government had stupidly paid warlords and thugs to kidnap innocent people. In addition, the Bush regime needed “terrorists” prisoners in order to prove that there was a terrorist threat.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]As there was no evidence against the “detainees” (most have been released without charges after years of detention and abuse), the U.S. government needed a way around U.S. and international laws against torture in order that the government could produce evidence via self-incrimination. The Bush regime found inhumane and totalitarian-minded lawyers and put them to work at the U.S. Department of Justice (sic) to invent arguments that the Bush regime did not need to obey the law.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]The Bush regime created a new classification for its detainees that it used to justify denying legal protection and due process to the detainees. As the detainees were not U.S. citizens and were demonized by the regime as “the 760 most dangerous men on earth,” there was little public outcry over the regime's unconstitutional and inhumane actions.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]As our Founding Fathers and a long list of scholars warned, once civil liberties are breached, they are breached for all. Soon U.S. citizens were being held indefinitely in violation of their habeas corpus rights. Dr. Aafia Siddiqui an American citizen of Pakistani origin might have been the first.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Dr. Siddiqui, a scientist educated at MIT and Brandeis University, was seized in Pakistan for no known reason, sent to Afghanistan, and was held secretly for five years in the U.S. military's notorious Bagram prison in Afghanistan. Her three young children were with her at the time she was abducted, one an eight-month old baby. She has no idea what has become of her two youngest children. Her oldest child, 7 years old, was also incarcerated in Bagram and subjected to similar abuse and horrors.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Siddiqui has never been charged with any terrorism-related offense. A British journalist, hearing her piercing screams as she was being tortured, disclosed her presence. An embarrassed U.S. government responded to the disclosure by sending Siddiqui to the U.S. for trial on the trumped-up charge that while a captive, she grabbed a U.S. soldier's rifle and fired two shots attempting to shoot him. The charge apparently originated as a U.S. soldier's excuse for shooting Dr. Siddiqui twice in the stomach resulting in her near death. [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]On February 4, Dr. Siddiqui was convicted by a New York jury for attempted murder. The only evidence presented against her was the charge itself and an unsubstantiated claim that she had once taken a pistol-firing course at an American firing range. No evidence was presented of her fingerprints on the rifle that this frail and broken 100-pound woman had allegedly seized from an American soldier. No evidence was presented that a weapon was fired, no bullets, no shell casings, no bullet holes. Just an accusation.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Wikipedia has this to say about the trial: “The trial took an unusual turn when an FBI official asserted that the fingerprints taken from the rifle, which was purportedly used by Aafia to shoot at the U.S. interrogators, did not match hers.” [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]An ignorant and bigoted American jury convicted her for being a Muslim. This is the kind of “justice” that always results when the state hypes fear and demonizes a group. [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]The people who should have been on trial are the people who abducted her, disappeared her young children, shipped her across international borders, violated her civil liberties, tortured her apparently for the fun of it, raped her, and attempted to murder her with two gunshots to her stomach. Instead, the victim was put on trial and convicted.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]This is the unmistakable hallmark of a police state. And this victim is an American citizen. [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Anyone can be next. Indeed, on February 3 Dennis Blair, director of National Intelligence told the House Intelligence Committee that it was now “defined policy” that the U.S. government can murder its own citizens on the sole basis of someone in the government's judgment that an American is a threat. No arrest, no trial, no conviction, just execution on suspicion of being a threat. [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]This shows how far the police state has advanced. A presidential appointee in the Obama administration tells an important committee of Congress that the executive branch has decided that it can murder American citizens abroad if it thinks they are a threat.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]I can hear readers saying the government might as well kill Americans abroad as it kills them at home--Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Black Panthers.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Yes, the U.S. government has murdered its citizens, but Dennis Blair's “defined policy” is a bold new development. The government, of course, denies that it intended to kill the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver's wife and child, or the Black Panthers. The government says that Waco was a terrible tragedy, an unintended result brought on by the Branch Davidians themselves. The government says that Ruby Ridge was Randy Weaver's fault for not appearing in court on a day that had been miscommunicated to him, The Black Panthers, the government says, were dangerous criminals who insisted on a shoot-out.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]In no previous death of a U.S. citizen by the hands of the U.S. government has the government claimed the right to kill Americans without arrest, trial, and conviction of a capital crime.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]In contrast, Dennis Blair has told the U.S. Congress that the executive branch has assumed the right to murder Americans who it deems a “threat.”[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]What defines “threat”? Who will make the decision? What it means is that the government will murder whomever it chooses.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]There is no more complete or compelling evidence of a police state than the government announcing that it will murder its own citizens if it views them as a “threat.”[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Ironic, isn't it, that “the war on terror” to make us safe ends in a police state with the government declaring the right to murder American citizens who it regards as a threat.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-1]Paul Craig Roberts was an editor of the Wall Street Journal and an Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. His latest book, HOW THE ECONOMY WAS LOST, has just been published by CounterPunch/AK Press. He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com [/SIZE]
     
  2. Just... wow.

    You'd think the public would be wise to propaganda and brainwashing these days. Obviously not, looks like it's gone further than ever before. Government sanctioned murder... I'm scared, I have a copy of the Anarchist's cookbook; am I a foreign threat to America??
     
  3. No, I think you might be their gullible target audience. Not only is that book OLD, it's full of disinformation.
     
  4. What giant rock have you been living under for the past 50 years?
     
  5. Oh, don't get me wrong: I know they've been doing it forever, but it's always been hush hush before, or they outsourced it. Now they're admitting to it, it's a whole new ball game. Their terror campaign has successfully brainwashed the majority into thinking it's almost acceptable governmental policy to kill people that are deemed 'threats', that's no mean feat.

    Also, the anarchist's cookbook reference was merely a quip... showing that to some maybe I could be determined as a possible 'threat'. I know it's awful, most of it doesn't even apply to me since I'm British, so whatever.
     
  6. One the one hand, we have free speech and can read/say what we want. On the other hand, if we are deemed a threat to the government they can wipe us out. Yet I don't think they even have clear definitions of a threat. In fact, they don't even need evidence to detain you. Hello....corruption anyone?
     
  7. We no longer have freedom of speech. When a cop can arrest you for disturbing the peace, how do you have freedom of speech? Seriously, go up to a cop and say "Fuck you" and see what happens.

    We live in a police state that imprisons 1% of our population, is allowed to detain you indefinitely and can even send you to another country without ever being charged or given a trial.
     
  8. Ugh, that 1% thing pisses me off so much, how much more has to happen before people wake up? But nah, Sarah Palin might be running for president, we might all be saved! :rolleyes:
     
  9. Not yet... if they start implementing those "mind-reading devices" into airports I will then agree that the U.S. has turned into a police state.
     
  10. When the line in the sand is drawn it will come down to two things.

    Submit, kneel down and go along with what you told.

    Stand and resist like a man and a true Patriot.

    A SMALL percentage won our freedom from England, I hope a LARGE percentage would be willing to regain what we have lost and defend against further attack.
     
  11. does anyone else get pissed off at talk about police states, marshall law, and fascism when there are actual places that have to worry about this?
     
  12. Ever see the video from the DNC 2004? How about the Pittsburgh protests this year? G8 Summit? Ever been to an airport? Its not all thugs in uniform though... what does privacy mean to you? All in the name of fighting terror and its okay?
     
  13. haha, airports? really?

    lets see where my privacy is at:
    i am on a forum full of stoners talking about using illicit drugs.
    i grow marijuana occasionally.
    i text/call me dealers/friends regarding weed.
    i know no one that has been arrested since the Patriot Act nor because of it.
    i have met the President of the United States.

    seems as though since im not a terrorist I have nothing to worry about. privacy is not a right. as long as your other real rights arent infridged by an invasion of privacy, im sittin pretty and so is almost every person in this country. care to compare a real police state to what we live with?
     
  14. Yes, but most third world countries were put into that position because of us. The World bank and the IMF receive funding from the Federal reserve if a country needs a loan. Money from gov't to gov't, only leads to the expansion of gov't. Not to mention with the interest rates on our loans, many countries have fallen to poverty and turmoil because of our fiat money system (loans that can never be repaid). The police state will slowly reach home as more money is put into our own money supply. In my opinion, we're already in a police state/marshall law. Most police departments/agencies receive federal backing, which grants them the right to use military/federal tactics if needed (violating the separation of powers act in our own constitution). Not to mention the fucking spread of "Homeland Security" which is a whole different issue.
     
  15. You are just too conditioned and complacent to be a threat to the power structure so your life never coincides with the things that the more shadowy parts of our government actually does. The CIA isn't only there to overthrow foreign governments for our corporations, you know. I know plenty of people who have had their life threatened by government spooks because they release classified information or get a bit too close to mass producing something that would stop us from taking it in the ass from oil companies. You have no idea about all the "suicides" in the scientific community or how carefully monitored most of our communication is. Too bad you assume everybody's life is as boring as yours.

    As for the marijuana growing, this is illegal and immoral and I have reported you to the authorities. Prepare for the DEA raid.
     
  16. Yeah because third world countries would have been in such great shape without capitalist help...

    you are funny. im sorry i just cant let myself take any of this stuff seriously. its too frustrating. suffice it to say that you and the people who informed you of these events would be dead if they were true...
     

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