The Founding Fathers would vehemently disagree with that. They hated democracy. As some woman asked Ben Franklin, upon exiting the Constitutional Convention at Philadelphia (paraphrased): "What kind of government do we have, Sir?" Franklin replied: " A republic, if you can keep it." At any rate, that's interesting and all, but not really significant IMO. You can argue endlessly about the technical differences between democracy, social democracies, fascism, socialism, national socialism, yadda yadda yadda til yer blue in the face. To me the labels don't mean anything anymore. I just want the government to leave me alone. A democratic tyranny? No thanks! A republic like "The People's Republic of China?" Ha, no thanks. Fuck 'em all. All governments care about is confiscating wealth and accumulating and consolidating power. wtf thread am I on ?