The Politics of Climate Change...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by svedka, Jul 16, 2018.

  1. a friend who lives in AZ posted this today... those who believe warming of the planet and climate change expect more of these types of dust storms due drought and crazy winds... hard to imagine 70 miles of this....

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  2. I was in a doctor's office the other day and caught some TV news, whatever channel was on out of the corner of my eye.

    After sitting there for 15 minutes the reporting on climate related disasters happening around the globe was like a shock/horror reel right from an apocalyptic thriller.

    Carr Fire Tornado Creates Own Weather System

    Heatwave in Japan / Crops Dying Due to Drought

    Flooding Causes Evacuation Fears in Virginia

    Volcano Eruption & now a Hurricane Headed for Hawaii

    I was like, damn nature you scary as hell, I ain't messin with you at all this decade. Then I folded myself into space time with some distillate and peaced out. Without making a follow up appointment...
     
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  3. @mook2420 yes, we haven't seen nothing yet mother earth is just beginning to shake off stress...

    ever compare the earth size to the vastness of the galaxies? The number of stars in the milky way is beyond our comprehension and there are many milky ways beyond that one...

    Earth is like a speck of dust in the universes... yet we ants think we are so smart and important... lol
     
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  4. Side note: ants also think they are smart and important. I still don't like them in my house. I feel that what we've done to the earth is going to make things similarly difficult for us.
     
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  5. aside to your side note: i've only had problems with ants a couple of times over decades but the Chinese make an "insecticide chalk" that wipes them out right away... simply draw a chalk mark where you see the ants and somehow they pass the message down the pipe and the ants leave... not sure how it works, could mess up their nervous system or burn them... i believe it's even touted as being safe around pets but don't quote me on that... years ago could be found at any Asian market for very very cheap...

    But you do know i was using ants as a metaphor for humanoids, right? lol
     
  6. #126 svedka, Aug 6, 2018
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    @statseeker if you or anyone else enjoys science and has an open mind about climate change with an interest in the infinite correlation of the universe and all life on this planet, i highly suggest watching #ONESTRANGEROCK ... i've mentioned this before in this thread i believe... Oddly enough i watch it on a local Fox TV station but it is from national geographic... below is a link that supposedly you can click on permission to access your location and then watch an episode live... great visuals and information... even on free tv that i use... haven't paid for cable in my life that i recall...

    Channel Homepage

    Edit: Link above may or may not be useful but here is a very short clip intro on youtube... i don't see how the "flatearthers" can deny space travel and the shape of the earth.. but then again, look at the different takes in politics from left to right... lol

     
  7. I bet it was some sort of diatomaceous earth in stick form, that's genius! If that was it, it works by creating a slew of lacerations on soft bodied insects when they come into contact with the powder. Dries them out and even can transfer back to the hive. It's a bunch of microscopic shell type magic all ground up into powder form. It kills bedbugs too. It's one of the only things that worked when I battled them... That's why I learned about diatoms. Those bastards, them and ticks. Rot in hell.

    Sorry to further side the aside side note!
     
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  8. it's been 12 yrs or more since i used it but as i recall you could draw a circle around something they like and they would not cross the line nor would i ever see dead ants... it's as if the first ant or 2 got scorched and screamed the signal RETREAT there main digs... most amazing thing i ever saw...

    Besides ants, what i hate in the house are fleas and fruit flies... haven't had a flea problem in 30 plus yrs but fruit flies can slip in fast through screens if they get a whip of something...

    One time after sitting in the grass by a pond fishing, got home took off close and had chigger bites the bastards were under my underwear... i was amazed, they sit lurking in the grass ready to pounce on any mammal? wtf do they do the rest of the time? lol
     
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  9. The reason ants don't come inside is that there's nothing for them. They'd starve before they found anything or be poisoned. We're poisoning ourselves. We're starving ourselves. We won't stop until there's nothing left for us. I don't get how it's a political issue. It shouldnt be. It isn't for people in Redding or Socal with fire or the Appalachians that are suffering floods. Ridiculous that we can't agree climate change is a human-EXACERBATED threat that needs to be ADDRESSED for the future of our country and species.
     
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  10. That is what I always wonder, you go anywhere and get mauled by mosquitos, how do they reproduce constantly when there is nothing to suck blood most of the time.

    Black magic! Lol

     
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  11. As America Burns From Climate Change, Trump Officials Attend Denial Conference to Discuss Why Climate Change is Fake


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    The conference was organised by the leading climate denial think tank, Heartland Institute (picture is a screengrab of its website) which has been regurgitating the same climate denial old rubbish – what we now would now call “fake news” – for the last two decades. It has received significant funding from Exxon and the Koch Brothers to do so.

    But all their climate denial friends were there too, according to Reuters, including speakers from JunkScience, the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and the Center For Industrial Progress and officials from the U.S. Department of Interior and the White House.

    The panels included sessions on “Carbon Taxes, Cap & Trade, and Other Bad Ideas,” “Fiduciary Malpractice: The Sustainable Investment Movement,” and “Why CO2 Emissions Are Not Creating A Climate Crisis.”
    As America Burns From Climate Change, Trump Officials Attend Denial Conference to Discuss Why Climate Change is Fake
     
  12. #133 jerry111165, Aug 18, 2018
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    So you dont think the Earths climate changes slowly over time on its own?

    Summer is hot dude.

    How about the Ice Age? Or when the Earth was covered in water? Or when the polar caps were a tropical paradise?

    Heck, last winter when I had a week of -25?

    when you consider the hole that was found in the ozone due to chemical plants sending toxins into the air... that hole is shrinking now that regulations were enforced...

    Wait - how can CA be getting hotter if the hole in the Ozone is shrinking?

    I found this list of high temperatures in LA CA that go back to 1921 on the Current Results - Weather & Science Facts website (Cite:Los Angeles CA Highest Temperature Each Year - Current Results) which at least puts things in perspective. Now, it doesn’t show the heat wave in northern CA from last year (it was hotter in CA last year in CA) but it does give a pretty darn good list from Oct 2017 to 1921in LA.

    This page gives the highest temperature for each year in Los Angeles and the date that it happened. A date with a plus sign beside it means it was that hot on at least one other day earlier that year.

    These temperature extremes were measured in downtown Los Angeles and go back to 1921. The highest temperature recorded during that time there was 113 degrees Fahrenheit (45 Celsius) on September 27, 2010.


    Highest Los Angeles temperatures in recent years
    Max °F Date Max °C
    104 October 24, 2017 40
    104 September 26, 2016 40
    101 September 09, 2015 38
    103 September 16, 2014 39
    96 August 29, 2013 36
    103 September 15, 2012 39
    99 October 12, 2011 37
    113 September 27, 2010 45
    101 August 27, 2009 38
    100 October 01, 2008 38
    101 September 02, 2007 38
    101 July 22, 2006 38
    97 September 29, 2005 36
    102 April 27, 2004 39
    97 October 21, 2003 36
    101 September 01, 2002 38
    93 April 24, 2001 34
    99 September 12, 2000 37
    102 September 29, 1999 39
    104 September 01, 1998 40
    100 October 15, 1997 + 38
    99 August 29, 1996 37
    101 October 02, 1995 + 38
    104 August 12, 1994 40
    98 September 26, 1993 + 37
    100 September 23, 1992 38
    107 October 10, 1991 42
    112 June 26, 1990 44
    106 April 06, 1989 41
    110 September 04, 1988 43
    108 October 04, 1987 + 42
    100 August 18, 1986 38
    107 July 01, 1985 42
    105 September 05, 1984 41
    105 August 06, 1983 41
    102 September 02, 1982 39
    105 June 16, 1981 41
    100 July 30, 1980 38
    105 June 11, 1979 41
    107 September 25, 1978 42
    97 July 26, 1977 36
    102 June 27, 1976 + 39
    102 September 24, 1975 + 39
    99 October 16, 1974 37
    106 June 20, 1973 41
    102 August 22, 1972 + 39
    106 September 13, 1971 41
    105 September 27, 1970 41
    97 August 22, 1969 36
    100 August 23, 1968 38
    103 August 31, 1967 39
    100 November 01, 1966 38
    100 October 22, 1965 38
    96 October 20, 1964 36
    109 September 26, 1963 43
    94 September 23, 1962 + 34
    103 October 14, 1961 39
    100 July 20, 1960 38
    103 July 10, 1959 39
    104 October 16, 1958 40
    104 June 18, 1957 40
    102 September 09, 1956 39
    110 September 01, 1955 43
    96 July 07, 1954 36
    101 October 05, 1953 38
    97 September 01, 1952 36
    96 October 07, 1951 36
    104 October 13, 1950 40
    103 September 07, 1949 39
    100 September 11, 1948 38
    96 September 01, 1947 + 36
    95 September 29, 1946 35
    97 October 02, 1945 36
    101 September 23, 1944 38
    103 September 22, 1943 39
    99 May 20, 1942 37
    97 May 07, 1941 36
    99 October 19, 1940 37
    107 September 20, 1939 42
    95 August 12, 1938 + 35
    95 September 12, 1937 + 35
    97 July 18, 1936 36
    98 August 09, 1935 37
    98 September 18, 1934 37
    100 October 04, 1933 38
    96 August 18, 1932 36
    97 August 25, 1931 36
    98 July 14, 1930 37
    100 October 21, 1929 38
    95 September 06, 1928 35
    98 May 13, 1927 37
    102 August 25, 1926 39
    97 July 17, 1925 36
    102 September 29, 1924 39
    99 May 09, 1923 37
    102 September 17, 1922 39
    101 September 26, 1921 38

    I’m not saying it’s not getting hotter although the list above shows pretty darn hot temperatures in the 1950s and 60s, in the early 1970s, 1985, 1987, 1991 - etc...

    In my opinion and of course it’s only one guys opinion but climate change happens, has always happened and will always continue to happen.

    J
     
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  13. You think so? You think the folks in Brazil figure the same thing? How about the folks in Vietnam? Congo?

    I guess I’m in ummmm, “denial” lol - and I can’t stant Trump - so that theory is out the window...

    J
     
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  14. Hell I remember reading the Little House series and they were getting like 10ft+ snow in Wisconsin.

     
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  15. Right here in Maine...

    Or the folks to the west of us in upstate NY get hit each winter with Lake affect snow that keeps piling up and piling up and piling up…

    Last winter Redfield New York got well over 25 feet of snow, although the record is a few towns over which is over 39 feet of snow.

    Snowiest place in New York has 25 feet and counting

    I’m guessing that those folks don’t worry an awful lot about global warming.

    J
     
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  16. Reminds me of the story about Chicken Little
    I see Dems running everywhere screaming
    Da sky is falling LOL
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  17. This is why we run Jeeps & Subaru’s at my house -

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  18. No that analogy is more like Dolt45 ie, NO COLLISION, NO COLLISION, NO COLLUSION, BORN IN KENYA, BORN IN KENYA, BORN IN KENYA, FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS, FAKE NEWS... oh and WITCH HUNT, WITCH HUNT, WITCH HUNT...

    oh and back on topic of global warming... CHINA HOAX, CHINA HOAX, CHINA HOAX...
    :lmafoe:
     

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