I'm going to reply to the next post at length tonight, super interested man no doubt about that. It's putting names on a lot of the stuff I've been noticing, I will reply but I need to get of this phone, so later on tonight ill get to it. Lol purple wreck and jack? What's the problem with that?? Fine choices I reckon. I remember you asking but I can't remember what I said??? You know my answer now huh? Got some reading to do. Thanks man this is going to be a great convo.
Hi Oz, Sorry now about being a pain in the arse^ The answer = water retention.....as long as your drainage outstrips rain, it is genuine N deficiency. So keep a close eye on how well that soil draws down water. If you still got good suction, you're all good and any N deficiency is probably down to leaching. If it gets sluggish, then start to worry about denitrification. And hey, today's call on the PW (apart from her stacking it on ) is that she is too wet…see leaves bottom RHS, which btw are closest to the roots? Got her legs crossed…bit saggy and that? Bet if I pinched one off and milked the stalk a little I'd get a big bead. I won't water from here till she wilts from the top. If I really need nutes, it'll be just a pinch of that dry, organic, low NPK (5: 2.5: 1.5 from memory). I hope this all helps Oz. I mean helps you put ideas to the test….like you got lots of rain atm, so that's a chance to see if it plays out before you (or not). I don't mean help with your grow which is clearly 100% under control. Right on. I feel better. Woohoo weekend!! Have a cracker mate.
Not a pain in the arse mate. No Internet here till 'sarvy so on the phone. We're are on the same page with the answer I think.. although that answer might be my question?.. Kind of why although I move them undercover after a couple of days of rain, I'm still happy enough to water a wet pot after a couple of cool wet days undercover even though its still wet? Now I'm pretty simple in my way of thinking, so I'll try not to fuck up all this smart looking shit you've written all over this page, but (and this is still nothing to do with the big post up there, ill reply to that later) , but here's where my basic knowledge has got me to so far,, all the different methods, organic soil, chemical ferted soil, coco, dwc/nft/aero, aquaponics all hugely different delivery systems, pushbikes to jetplanes in relation to similarities but same exact result. This is because in the end your always working for the plant and the same exact work needs to be done. I'll get to a point eventually. The same as there is a specific list of things that need to be done, there is another mirroring list of things that will cause problems,, always though imo only by disrupting the primary list. I fucking hate trying to explain shit using traditional words. Not because I'm a word snob or anything, but lets say deficiency, to me that says lacking, now think get some 'more' and fill up what's missing. I never think like that, if something is missing or deficient I see a leak rather than a thief. Not specific to this that's jus how I think, rather know why that what. I like the long road, it just seems more interesting than just constantly filling questions with answers, holes with rocks. So we're talking the natural process and ill try to get back on track. "As long as your soil outstrips rain" it IS a genuine N deficiency? Leeching? So N is mobile in the soil but produced pretty rapidly too yeah? Or easily added if your going that way? Charlie carp and the likes,I think,,, is a bandaid at best or a suppliment for a deficiency only, but suppliments imo basically feed deficiency. 1tbsp per 3ish liters of water of molasses has a much more visible effect. I take a scratch of soil from my pot tbsp or so I guess, throw it in the bucket, 10L water 3tbsp molasses, stir. Do that in the a.m feed at sunset. Just got to feed the bugs and they feed the plant, little bit of Epsom salts every few weeks/ month or so. Fuck I've made a mess of this,,, all stems from all your h202 talk last year, same thing, h202 is a suppliment for an air deficiency yeah? But you can achieve the same result with a transfer of air carried in water, by adding more water,, exchanged. Overwatering should be changed to underoxygenated ? Which can be controlled by water exchange. 'When it rains too much, plants go yellow. When I put them undercover out of the rain they get much greener fast, if I leave them undercover and they remain wet, some(usually one maybe two) leaves get yellow and brown burns and go limp , when I water at least pot volume it stops and goes no further. -------------------------------------------------------- Ill continue that a bit later. PW looks fucking rad man, can't see why you'd have to feed it for a good while anyway?
LOL! Far far from it, to be honest I'm sitting here seriously contemplating chopping the lot down today, maybe I can put one in the sprout house under 150cfl but even that would be a tight fit. Haven't had a dry day for about 3 weeks, no air movement just constant drizzle shit and no change in sight till next week.
Problem solved for now, bit tall for the box so had to tilt one over. Crowded up one end but the air rips through the box pretty well so better than out in the wet.
I want to respond^, but see bigger things afoot, so summary = awesome, you are definitely onto this. But yeah for now, you got some water up there huh? IMHO things look pretty good. Reckon you caught it in time and they are going to be (mighty) fine. My 2c remembering i don't do pots: (and EDIT i have no idea how well drained your soil is!) Obsess about air flow, the more the better. Assume you don’t have a dehumidifier? Refrigerative Acs have them hey, so chuck your split system onto cold if you got one. Don’t use evaporative AC. Get a fan blowing as well and tuck pots in with hot water bottles (or whatever) to warm soil. Consider coring. Honestly if it was me, I’d grab a bamboo kebab-skewer out of my drawer and I’d gently skewer it all the way down if possible, like 6 times per plant at least. Slowly and feeling for main roots as you go. Do what you can to 'lift' your soil & undo some of the over-water compaction. Like mebbe if it gets a lot worse, lay her on her side & draw plant a little out of her pot...an inch or so is heaps....then one hand on stem and another on pot, start tilting her to rights, but shaking as you go, so you re-expand all that compacted soil. This to me is more radical than coring and you'll be snapping a fair few of those fine 2ndary roots even when real gentle, but if you don't shake too hard, she'll be right no worries. Could give the pot in a pot a whirl. Just seen this good explanation…..don’t be put off by his potting mix comments, you probably do have a perched water table at this stage and even if not, it’ll help dry faster: The Complete Burke's Backyard: The Ultimate Book of Fact Sheets - Don Burke - Google Books Next time you are at the shops, go to chemist and get brown bottle 6% h2o2 so it is ready. You won’t need it I reckon, but it's a good disinfectant to have around anyway. Great for tetnus. Anyway, all^ just grist for your mill mate. Keep us posted!
Chopped the lot. G'day everyone, I unexpectedly had to go away for a week and next week isn't looking much better at this stage so I bit the bullet and chopped the gsonic girls yesterday. The smell is just like fresh green mango, going to be some pretty buds after a dry and cure should give me something to test my new macro on. Got the onekid jarred up too but didn't get pics at the chop, had a mate take her down while I was away as there was some mould getting on her due (I reckon anyway) to the over abundance of nitrogen in the pre ferted potting mix, just so much leaf made it hard to get air through her. Hope your all well GC'ers. Smoke reports to come. Oz
Hey Oz, Nice! I don't check your thread for a couple of weeks, and the next thing I know, you're harvesting pretty, green budz. Awesome! Mmmm...mango. See ya...
G'day papa, could have done with another week probably but with more rain settling in I'll take what I've got and run! Thanks for dropping by man. Oz
There's something special about the southern hemisphere sun. I swear you OZ mates are growing under a different star man. Those are beautiful. Great job! Aces mate!
Bud pic for the pervs Gsonic http://forum.grasscity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1159573&d=1364342972 Ill post a smoke report in that section in a week or two after a bit more of a cure, had a few bowls already and well rounded is probably the best description for effect, nice buzzy high with a good strong stone on top, pretty close to perfect all rounder imo. Edit: Have to figure how to post pics from the mac. Link for now.
Hey Oz, Bud porn from down under...awesome! Has a nice, smooth look, like it would be a pleasure to smoke. Good work! See ya...