If it hadn't been for the books, William S burroughs, Jack Kerouac, ect ect..Do you guys think that the hippy era still would have came about?
if it hadn't been for the books... if it hadn't been for LSD.... if it hadn't been for the contraceptive pill... if it hadn't been for social security.... if it hadn't been for world war 2.....
i think it woulda. a vast majority of the hippies protested the war. i think had it not been for vietnam and the civil rights movement the hippie era wouldn't have come about.
I wish sometimes i could of been a hippy and lived the life.But my mom did and she tells me about it sometime when we're blazed lol.
it would have happend. it took a whole collection of strange shit, and wonderful shit to happen to kick off the little renaisaunce that was (and is in the minds of many) the hippie era. taking away one aspect of it does not change the outcome to the point that it wouldnt have happened. but heres a question (kinda like the life & art thing)... was the hippie revolution a product of LSD experimentation or LSD experimentation a product of the hippie revolution? (and not only LSD, but other mind altering/opening substances)
The second one! the second one! god, now i feel like some LSD. whats the price of the shitt nowadays?
I say just go grab some mushrooms. its cheeper, safer (if u know what you're looking for) and by far better an experience.
i think Buddha's patio (great name) wanted to have an intellectual discussion here, about; if it hadn't been for..... if it hadn't been for social security, none of us so-called 'hepcats' would have had the time for al that reading, thinking, music, tripping. it's a full time job. no one had the leisure time be4. we were all on either student allowance or the dole and could dedicate ourselves to the pursuit of knowledge, aided by psychadelics.(while our parents worked 2 jobs!!)
who gives a load of manure anyways. hippies, hmm. they *failed* yeah, peace and stuff. who's in charge these days, he... shure they normalized drug use, but not our beloved herb. that's been in use way before the hippies even were a glimmer in their fathers eye. and what, really, have lsd given us, except a lot of people in rubber rooms... seriously, get over the leary doctrine! *sigh*
maybe if hippies were given a whole nation to themselves instead of the tiny pockets of existance they have here and there... they'd be able to prove to the world that the hippie philosophies were and are sound ideals that can be put to practice and work to benifit society. sure there was mistakes made, but the movement ws moving on. it wasnt until all the hangers on and fakers flaked out that things got a little bit garbled in the mess that followed, and with too few remaining, hippies became to easy a target for those who wanted to be predjudice against something. Leary, despite the lack of safety in his voyage, did do alot of good. many peoples minds were blown wide open. just not enough people and too high a percentage suffered from the psychological dangers. and sure, unprotected free "love" (swinging and fucking like rabits basically) wasnt the great idea it might have once sounded. but we've moved on... we've learned... i think its time hippie values were injected back into society minus the flaws. "Timothy Leary's dead. oh oh-oh ohh ohhh" - moody blues and zylark.. look not upon hippies and see either failure or success... see what they improved and what they made worse.... then think what it would have been like without them. in my eyes it seems closer to success than failure.
that's essentially true of *any* generation. i just don't think the hippies were much more special than say the beatniks, or the 80's kids kids for that matter. peace!
the beatniks and the hippies were basically saying the same thing - look around you; fight your conditoning; open up. etc. i don't think 80's kids kids or the now generation of black gangstas have a philosophy at all like this.
the peoples influences hippie times was stronger than the peoples influence in more recent times. iron fists have been tightening all around us.
I think that the hippie generation had a lot of big hopes and faith for the future but during the 70s and the hardening war on drugs and social pressure and the cold truth that you can't live in society with out being a part of it hit them in the face and people just didn't see any point in it and they just became waht people are now, "happy with what you have to be happy with", But I dunno kids now andin the 80 may have values but aren't fighting in the same camp anymore, there's so many different "styles" or "movements" that it seems quite impossible to get everybody on the same side 'cos there's like 20 sides to it and at least 50 % of them hate ach other.