The Gaza Freedom Flotilla 2 thread...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SmokinP, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. #1 SmokinP, Jun 30, 2011
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    Freegaza - News section

    I will update this thread documenting the progress of the Flotilla.
    Hopefully this time there will be no bloodshed and that the Flotilla will reach its destination.

    Can we please avoid the usual tit for tat arguments in this thread.
    I would appeal to all that support this initiative not to be drawn into pointless arguments with those that will as per usual attempt to hijack the thread.

    I also appeal to those that have objections to the Flotilla to refrain from entering the thread.


    Show your support by posting messages of peace and solidarity.
    I will ensure that these messages are passed on to those that are aboard the Freedom Flotilla...

    Peace and Love to all...:smoke:

    http://www.facebook.com/FreedomFlotilla2
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Irish-Ship-to-Gaza-Freedom-Flotilla-2/138444832852743
    http://irishingaza.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/freedom-flotilla-2-stay-human/

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  3. I hope they get there in one piece. n that's bullshit about the Irish boat ):
     
  4. #4 dudedude4, Jun 30, 2011
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    Why do they want to deliver so much aid to Hamas, when they've been caught over and over again selling it back to their own people for profit? Sorry bro, if you make a thread posing a PR flotilla as a peace flotilla, not everyone is going to believe you when all the facts point otherwise. If these flotilla nutjobs had half a brain they'd be going thru the UN instead of through Hamas, who is going to once again exploit their own people by dangling their aid in front of them on a pole, tagged with astronomical prices. At least the UN actually gives the aid to the people for free, that is, when Hamas doesn't try to expel UN workers with death threats. Smells fishy... but some of our noses it seems are plugged. You say you don't want tit and tat arguments, but those never really happen. What actually happens is you get proven wrong, then you accuse everyone who is doing the factual analysis of simply trying to sabotage your oh-so-important thread. Cry me a river.
     
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  6. i wish both sides would just stfu .
     
  7. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zZ4xoX0rbM[/ame]
     

  8. I think its a political flotilla to help bring awareness to the problem, thereby helping bring peace, so they were like "peace flotilla" because theyre trying to bring peace through awareness. this is just my speculation though. also, could you source some links about hamas ripping the people off? thats messed up.
     
  9. sure thing Atman. and yes it is fucked.

    Report: Hamas Selling Humanitarian Aid for Profit - Defense/Middle East - Israel News - Israel National News


    Another article [ame="http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d6_1231350274"]here[/ame]
     
  10. ^^^^^^^^^^

    Can you not just leave this out of this thread ?

    Israel News ?
    Really ?

    Dude, Sometimes i wonder about you.
    I sit here on my sofa and wonder. Where are you ?
    Do you wear a uniform ?
    Are you male or female ?

    For once turn a blind eye. This thread is about the Freedom Flotilla that even the activists on board will admit is symbolic...
    A gesture of support for the people of Gaza.
    A message of solidarity..
    The people on board these boats are real people not crazy terrorists.

    Just leave it for once...
     
  11. #11 dudedude4, Jul 1, 2011
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    I was clearly asked a question by TheAtmansPath.

    yes Israel News. If you'll read the article you'll see it is quoting a journalist from a UAE paper. So don't worry, it doesn't REALLY have the mark of the lying Jew on it.

    What you are attempting to do is known as "profiling." It is the act of bigots. Since you have invoked my revealed nationality in attempt to discredit me before, I see right through these evidently bigoted questions.

    Nothing I have said is untruthful or wrong. Why are you so afraid of the truth about this "freedom" "peace" "hyperbole" flotilla?
     

  12. you are aware they would like to wipe their neighbors off the face of the earth, right?

    maybe if they quit electing crazy genocidal leaders, they won't have such a hard time getting more of the shit they need. just a thought.
     
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  13. This gets funnier every time dude.
    It has nothing to do with Jews. Israelis could be Mormons, Moonies or Hindus...
    Is this desperation ?
    Do you have to attempt to play your "ace" every time ?
    I have stated a million times that i have zero problem with those of the Jewish faith.

    Religion has nothing to do with it for me. I have spent a lot of time in the company of Muslims in an attempt to understand those of that faith better.

    Guess what Jews, Muslims and Christians are no different. They all share the same aspirations.
    Peace and the chance to live their lives by their beliefs.



    No. Just interested.

    Where have i tried to engage you in an argument ?

    Have a smoke and chill out.:smoke:
     
  14. #14 dudedude4, Jul 1, 2011
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    This isn't about religion, it's about nationality and ethnicity. You seem to think everything that comes from the Hebrew nation-state is a lie, you just demonstrated that, from that I have no problem drawing the assumption I did. The flotilla idiots are going to give more aid to Hamas. Hamas is known for stealing the international aid and selling it back to its people at astronomical prices for profit. Get the fuck over it.
     
  15. ^^^^^^^
    Ok...:wave:
     
  16. Didn't these flotilla guys admit to bringing sulfuric acid on board?

    So let me get this straight; a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid is destined to be received by Hamas? The same guys who position rocket launching sites on top of schools and hospitals?
     
  17. It's a tough position to be in. It's definitely a symbolic defiance of Israel's blockade of Gaza. I understand that they do not want weapons being given to Hamas and everything. But I don't really trust their system of docking at the Ashdod port and transferring aid via land. If they allow Israel to inspect the flotillas and then continue to Gaza, I don't really see a problem with this.

    It's just like when the US had a blockade of Cuba to block weapons. If Russia crossed the blockade they would have been shot at. The same thing is with Gaza. It's an area of high tension.
     
  18. Let's not forget that Cuba never swore itself to the US's utter destruction, nor did it ever attack the US. So really it's a little more understandable that there is a blockade than this analogy would imply.
     

  19. You could point out the worst actions of the IDF too, or just about anything in the world, and say "the same people that _____" to make it seem horrible and discredit the first part of the sentence. Watch how else it can be done:

    "So let me get this straight; a flotilla carrying humanitarian aid is destined to be recieved by hamas? the same guys that devote up to 90% of its estimated $70 million annual budget to an extensive social services network, running many relief and education programs, and funds schools, orphanages, mosques, healthcare clinics, soup kitchens, and sports leagues. Such services are not generally provided by the Palestinian government."
     
  20. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auSyo_VzVZ0]YouTube - ‪CrossTalk on Gaza: Flotilla 2.0‬‏[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHBMC-_gF9U]YouTube - ‪US Gaza Flotilla Terrorists Training - Secret - Audacity of Hope 2011‬‏[/ame]
     

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