The Conservative Welfare State

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  1. #1 Deleted member 472633, May 25, 2013
    http://reason.com/archives/2013/05/23/the-conservative-welfare-state/print
     
     
    This is the idea I have been warning about. If the government pays for your food, your education, your healthcare, your housing, then most people believe it gives them a right to have a say in your life if they are paying for your existence.The welfare state goes hand in hand with totalitarianism. A government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take everything away. 

     
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  2. #2 yurigadaisukida, May 25, 2013
    Ard you saying helping the poor isnt worth a sophistocated form of world.slavery?

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  3. #3 Runningw235, May 25, 2013
    Exactly. Property rights are crucial and must precede all other rights. 
    Property, the fruit of one's labor, is an extension of their life. If that right isn't upheld, the premise that individuals do not own their lives is also accepted by default.
     
  4. #4 xmaspoo, May 26, 2013
    A parent pays for their children, giving them final say (though they give leeway on many instances) over the decisions made for the child.
     
    What the child eats, wears, socializes with, education, their health, and so on and so on.  It is only when a person pays their own way as they grow older, that more autonomy is given.
     
    The welfare state is the parent on steroids, because it parents for everyone through direct & indirect means.  When the taxpayer becomes convinced that they are paying to raise an entire segment of society, the urge to parent (nanny state) those persons only grows, and can only be viewed as a natural consequence.
     
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  5. #5 lil mars, May 26, 2013
    "conservative welfare state" is that what they call hoarding all the money , houses , etc
     
  6. #6 Deleted member 472633, May 26, 2013
    Eloquently said. I 100% agree. 
     
  7. #7 yurigadaisukida, May 27, 2013
    Its the idea that people are voting themselves into slavery through reliance.

    They vote away the jobs

    Then they vote themselves free stuff

    Then their government does whatever it pleases and people forgive it because thsy see them as generally good
     
  8. #8 Deleted member 472633, May 28, 2013
    I think the main thing that fucks conservatives up is there evangelical christian sensibilities if they didn't believe in the Bible then they would eventually come to a libertarian understanding of the world. 
     
  9. #9 yurigadaisukida, May 28, 2013
    The people maybe. But i think the people who control the republican party have an agenda irrelevent to the actual beliefs of their party.

    The war in iraq for example

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